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Good spot for a over shove all in?

edited September 2012 in The Poker Clinic
TKDaimeejSmall blind 30.0030.004035.00IDONKCALLUBig blind 60.0090.004950.00 Your hole cardsKK   hellraser2Call 60.00150.006235.00ajmiltonFold    profman15Fold    coatesy50Call 60.00210.009930.00TKDaimeejCall 30.00240.004005.00IDONKCALLURaise 180.00420.004770.00hellraser2Fold    coatesy50Call 180.00600.009750.00TKDaimeejFold    Flop  Q7Q   IDONKCALLUBet 360.00960.004410.00coatesy50Call 360.001320.009390.00Turn  Q   IDONKCALLUBet 780.002100.003630.00coatesy50Call 780.002880.008610.00River  7   

Comments

  • edited September 2012
    what size bet would u do on the river ? with stacks
  • edited September 2012
    Shove, if they're calling on this board, they have 88+ or Qx and are calling anything, so just go for max value when you're ahead.
  • edited September 2012
    Yeah I like shoving, like a little more on all streets, esp turn
  • edited September 2012
    In Response to Re: Good spot for a over shove all in?:
    Yeah I like shoving, like a little more on all streets, esp turn
    Posted by grantorino
    +1
  • edited September 2012
    shove no one can fold houses, if they call a smaller bet - they call a shove

    a check on river would be so cool for TV though - but only if oppo bets/shoves )
  • edited September 2012
    Hi IDCU
    Shove....he thinks its a chop as hasn't a higher pair as didn't rereaise down the streets...probably waiting to pr up w/high card.


    PS Nice play though i do think you should have RER AI following raise of your raise in sb when you had KK the other time. He would have folded with ATo surely.
    Maybe you fancied his whole stack eh?

    PPS what did u think he rer with as i thought had to AJ+ or TT+...no? Is this flawed thinking m8 by me?
  • edited September 2012
    In Response to Re: Good spot for a over shove all in?:
    Hi IDCU Shove....he thinks its a chop as hasn't a higher pair as didn't rereaise down the streets...probably waiting to pr up w/high card. PS Nice play though i do think you should have RER AI following raise of your raise in sb when you had KK the other time. He would have folded with ATo surely. Maybe you fancied his whole stack eh? PPS what did u think he rer with as i thought had to AJ+ or TT+...no? Is this flawed thinking m8 by me?
    Posted by profman15
    I don't know what this is in reference to but, taking it at face value, why would you want your opponent to fold AT if you have KK?
  • edited September 2012
    blinds were 40/80 borin loner i raised 240 some guy went 860 i believe i just flat called with kings in position instead of raising  and just played the hand badly 
  • edited September 2012
    In Response to Re: Good spot for a over shove all in?:
    In Response to Re: Good spot for a over shove all in? : I don't know what this is in reference to but, taking it at face value, why would you want your opponent to fold AT if you have KK?
    Posted by BorinLoner
    Yes, fair point Borin but if flop has A in it what then? What i was relating to  was why did he shove later in the  hand when Ace was there on the flop as surely the rer was AT+ or TT+ imo so he was imo more than likely to be behind. I was only asking if he felt the play was correct as usually IDCU plays well. This just didn't seem to be one of his bet. If you think a rer could have been made with other hands pleasee say as you have more experience than me.
  • edited September 2012
    no prof i just played the hand badly i wouldnt of played it the same way in a main event or any bigger buy in i didnt wanna reraise with the kings coz i get folds alot and me n opponent had alot of history on the table playing plenty of pots so i played it snug under repped my kk and ace flops thats where i played it badly 
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