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Collusion
Just being playing a SPT qualifier today, 3 left top 2 get entry to semi.
Im shortstack around 3k, 2nd player has 8k chip leader 15k (ish)
Throughout this they flood the chat box with "check the hand down" when Im not in the pot.
Chip leader tells the other player to raise when Im not in hand and he will give fold.
I mention in the chat box several times about the soft play, to be honest Im fuming at this point.
They also exchange facebook and msn names in the chat box!!!
I now know its pointless raising as Im going to up against 2 players every hand, so my only move is allin and hope I get lucky.
I manage to get a lucky double up and after a few shoves and blind folds Im up to 9k ish.
Anyway I shove with 88, one of the players tells the other one to fold, obviously he has a monster, he does AA, which hold up.
I have already discussed this through the Skychat function and they have said they will deal with it, what does that mean, will these be disqualified with me being entered.............. I very much doubt it.
What would other players like to see happen in these circumstances.
Im shortstack around 3k, 2nd player has 8k chip leader 15k (ish)
Throughout this they flood the chat box with "check the hand down" when Im not in the pot.
Chip leader tells the other player to raise when Im not in hand and he will give fold.
I mention in the chat box several times about the soft play, to be honest Im fuming at this point.
They also exchange facebook and msn names in the chat box!!!
I now know its pointless raising as Im going to up against 2 players every hand, so my only move is allin and hope I get lucky.
I manage to get a lucky double up and after a few shoves and blind folds Im up to 9k ish.
Anyway I shove with 88, one of the players tells the other one to fold, obviously he has a monster, he does AA, which hold up.
I have already discussed this through the Skychat function and they have said they will deal with it, what does that mean, will these be disqualified with me being entered.............. I very much doubt it.
What would other players like to see happen in these circumstances.
Comments
I think they're mugs for making it so obvious. Theres obvious ways to beat a short stack, alot of what they did, wud have happened anyway if they have any idea what theyre doing. But by making it blatently obvious in the chatbox, theyve blown it. Theres no doubt about it 1 or both must be dq'd and you progress. By trying to beat u (fairly or unfairly is a new debate, obviously ganging up on the shortie in a sat is common sense) theyve obviously helped you by going about it in the wrong way. Surely they were reading eachothers minds, didnt need writing. Theyve given u a lifeline. Plz update the post and let me know what comes of it. GL to ya
DOHHHH
(P.S, what was the buy in here???)
dont care about the money tbh, I agree about the strategy against the shortstack, however I had built my stack up to just about level 2nd place, however my game strategy is lost as I cant put any small raises in as both players will call, my only move is allin.
yep i agree ban both of them,
one comment from them in chat box maybe a slip of the finger ,
but blatant cheating like this no excuse .
defo lets us know the outcome.
Hey, I only asked what the buy in was to understand the ability/experience of the players involved. It wasnt in anyway aimed to take momentum/emphasis away from ur point. The same of course wud apply to a tourny with a 50p buy in.
DOHH
Keep us updated with what happens, have seen this a few times so am interested as to what, if any, action sky take
This is blatant cheating and should not be allowed.
a chat-box ban yes, but if you did this in live poker you'd be warned and asked to stop first, with the current hand to be made dead.
anyhow, if u reported that was all that's needed, sky moderators will handle it no doubt about that. whether you're put through the sat is another story, i doubt you'd be on the forum if you didn't run into aces and go bust. for one thing, you shouldn't be making "small" raises when it's 3 way anyway, so it probably didnt change the outcome of the game much imo since by the time you reach 3-way on sky its always <10bb poker making it very much steal+preflop-shove poker.
As for the small raises, perhaps I shouldnt have said small but anything other than an allin was a no go, as I knew i was getting 2 callers, 4 cards against 2, and that were prepared to check down the pot, so I had to hit no matter what as the odds are against me, therefore allin ensures I get to see the 5 cards.
Again its not a strategy post!
It really has nothing to do with how the game played out, but the collusion that occurred,
we had a web cam site we could name and shame the cheats
stop huffin and puffin you its only a matter of time
cosmicken
is that really right? They have apparently colluded in a qualifier, yet have somehow managed to get into the semifin al, and to boot, have found themselves on the same table?!
Surely sky should have investigsted this by now. If i was you, i'd be tempted to get back on to live chat with sky and ask if they have investigsted this yet, as if they are still playing, they could easily be doing the same thing again.
Sky-rich is a really good guy, and tends to get things resolved, so if yoiu get no joy from live chat, you might want to send him a private message asking for assistance.
I hope sky-rich wouldnt mind me posting this, as surely this is something that undermines the site, and needs to be eradicated.
Good luck in getting justice
Ray
Can i ask how you know which players are involved. To my knowledge Gaz has not named these players.
col
This is a strange one.
My post was in response to a post made by gazscoop in which he stated that the two were now playing on the same table in a semi. That post has now been removed as far as i can see, so reading the thread it appears that it is me making the observation.
To be clear, i do not know the alleged colluders names, or for certain that it did take place. I used the word "apparently" in my post to emphasise that i was talking on the hypothetical "if" they had cheated, as I am not in a position to state facts.
But "if" what gazscoop says is correct, I would be angry that they are playing in a semi and therefore potentially affecting the chances of other players qualifying.
That said, it seems strange that the post gazscoop has now been deleted, and i dont know what the significance of that would be.
Cheers Col
Ray