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Fold, call or shove?

edited September 2012 in The Poker Clinic

I had already made up the small blind and didn’t want to pay another 100 chips to see a flop I was probably going to miss. As everyone else wanted to get to the flop, I thought I would either give up or shove. Maybe I should have been suspicious of the BB min raise, but I was hoping for folds all round or take a flip against one player.

 

Thoughts please.

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  • edited September 2012
    ayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    sillymid Small blind   50.00 50.00 2765.00
    186 Big blind   100.00 150.00 6722.50
      Your hole cards
    • 5
    • 5
         
    truelove Call   100.00 250.00 2063.75
    jimb0d1 Call   100.00 350.00 7082.50
    suzyQ Call   100.00 450.00 1362.50
    sillymid Call   50.00 500.00 2715.00
    186 Raise   100.00 600.00 6622.50
    truelove Call   100.00 700.00 1963.75
    jimb0d1 Call   100.00 800.00 6982.50
    suzyQ Call   100.00 900.00 1262.50
    sillymid All-in   2715.00 3615.00 0.00
    186 Call   2615.00 6230.00 4007.50
    truelove Fold        
    jimb0d1 Fold        
    suzyQ Fold        
    sillymid Show
    • 5
    • 5
         
    186 Show
    • A
    • A
         
    Flop
       
    • 4
    • 8
    • Q
         
    Turn
       
    • K
         
    River
       
    • 6
         
    186 Win Pair of Aces 6230.00   10237.50







  • edited September 2012
    Hi S

    For me its too early for this and anyone calling is either 46% equity or has you a 20% dog if he has a higher pair(no one will call with lower pr, beleive me)...Your csi= 20 so there's better places with 4 players to act behind and better hands certainly, i feel.
    sorry mate but for me its a BIG FOLD

    GL at the tables m8
  • edited September 2012
    it's a pretty easy flat call pre

    shoving is suicidal and folding is pretty awful too
  • edited September 2012
    Thanks for the advice
  • edited September 2012
    Definitely not shove, definitely not fold.

    Easy flat call. When you have hands like 55, you want it to go multi-way because when you flop your set you've got a much better chance of getting paid. Perfect example here, if you call and miss, you lose very little, if you call and hit, you stack someone who has AA.
  • edited September 2012
    dont think shoving 1st time it comers to u would be that bad, calling better though. shoving when you did is spew, you rep nothing and guy who raised never folds
  • edited September 2012
    call n set mine never shoving in this spot
  • edited September 2012
    Both times the betting comes to you on this hand, the appropriate thing is to call. On both occasions the direct odds you are being offered are 9:1. Those are the correct pot odds to set-mine with even if you don't win a single chip on the flop when you hit. In fact, they're better odds than you need since you flop a set a 1/8 times.

    When you shove, your hand is not believable as a big hand, since you would have raised the first time it came to you with AA, KK, QQ or AK. When the big blind makes the min-raise, you can know that he's got to be strong. Although his raise sizing is terrible, we know even bad players would make a big raise if they wanted everyone to fold. You'd be very, very lucky to be racing when you get it in.
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