Your "ah haa" moment

LadyFingrs

Idk, something less corny, like, a big revelation you had, whether from reading a forum post, or listening to an interview or watching a coaching video, whatever.

Mines was probably krantz explaining the "getty" theorem I think it was called, which stated that the 3rd bet (4th bet pre) to go into the pot on dry boards was almost always a bluff.

I then immediately 5b shoved J8cc @ 50NLHU and the guy folded.

I just stared at the screen like someone had given me the keys to the world.

offshoot

*Yeti Theorem

cant really think of any ah ha moments. maybe learning about timing tells and how accurate they are vs donks like 90% of the time or manipulating timing tells vs good players so they triple barrell you with air while you have the nuts.

Or watching Raptor videos and realising theres other bet sizes other than 2/3rds pot.

OMahonyO

I remember reading caros book of tells, one of the more common ones against novices was , if you look as tho you are going to bet and they start counting out their chips, they are weak.

I was in a casino playing pl200 and there was quite a big pot, I wasnt really sure about pl at the time and had repped a strong hand up til the turn, even tho I didnt have a hand.  I asked the dealer what was the most I could bet, as she was counting the pot, the other lad picked up the wad of notes under his chips and started counting them aggressively.
I thought hmmmmm.....I wonder.  I bet this amount and the lad folded.

I was soo chuffed with myself lol

LadyFingrs

Ninja bump

kind of interested in these stories

scotty77

Even tho theres probably been many 'better' content vids, I think the one where things started to click into place for NLHE was MDM13's one on 2p2.  Such a great content video.

LadyFingrs

In Response to Re: Your "ah haa" moment:

Even tho theres probably been many 'better' content vids, I think the one where things started to click into place for NLHE was MDM13's one on 2p2.  Such a great content video.
Posted by scotty77

link?

Dingdell

In Response to Your "ah haa" moment:

Idk, something less corny, like, a big revelation you had, whether from reading a forum post, or listening to an interview or watching a coaching video, whatever. Mines was probably krantz explaining the "getty" theorem I think it was called, which stated that the 3rd bet (4th bet pre) to go into the pot on dry boards was almost always a bluff. I then immediately 5b shoved J8cc @ 50NLHU and the guy folded. I just stared at the screen like someone had given me the keys to the world.
Posted by LadyFingrs

Can you expand this a bit please - sounds interesting. Tnx.

LadyFingrs

In Response to Re: Your "ah haa" moment:

In Response to Your "ah haa" moment : Can you expand this a bit please - sounds interesting. Tnx.
Posted by Dingdell

So like, i'll just set up a hand to illustrate it.

Heads up No limit Hold'em $1/$2

Player 1: $300
Player 2: $300

Player 1: Raises $7
Player 2: calls

($14) Flop: Kh4s3c

Player 2: checks
Player 1: bets $11
Player 2: Raises to $29
Player 1: Raises to $83

Ok so at this point, It doesn't make any sense for player one to have a hand as strong as top pair, since, If he's going to stack off, the most profitable way would be to flat call Player 2's check/raise. This is because the board is so dry that there are no real scare cards that can come on the turn so protecting his hand is not an issue, so he may aswell extact the maximum from the bluffs in player 2's range. When he re-re-raises (3 bets), he is (from his perspective) killing his value from the times player 2 barrels the turn, and only getting it in with made hands that get it in on the turn anyway. Since, clearly, this is bad, we can assume that a large percentage of the time player 1 is bluffing.

Player 2: Raises All-in
Player 1: Folds

Player 2: Shows Js6c
Player 1: Weeps gently

Dingdell

Beautifully explained, ty.

daveydavey

OK who wants to 4b ladyfingers with a set first?

LadyFingrs

No problem.

So, since you're here, what was your revelation?

Sky_Mod6

Hi guys,

Unfortunately I have had to remove a few posts from this thread as I’m afraid we don't allow links to other poker forums. You can certainly post direct links to videos if this helps, just not via another forum. Thank you for your understanding in this matter

 

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daveydavey

In Response to Re: Your "ah haa" moment:

No problem. So, since you're here, what was your revelation?
Posted by LadyFingrs

Haven't really had any revelations in poker, i've played for 3 years across different sites and have never been down on original investment. Of course I have got better and i'd put that to trial and error coupled with listening to the best players around.

Also, I think it's important not to be scared of anyone in poker. I don't care if it's stupid, put me in a 6 seat STT which is my bread and butter and i'll back myself to be a winner.

scotty77

In Response to Re: Your "ah haa" moment:

Hi guys,  I have had to remove a few posts from this thread as they broke the community house rules. Links to other poker forums are not allowed. Thank you for your understanding in this matter. Rich
Posted by Sky_Mod6

No problem Rich

For anyone interested in the video, here is the link to the hosting site.  I trust that is ok to post?

http://www.uploadjockey.com/download/5592331/nl502p2wmv800600.wmv

scotty77

In Response to Re: Your "ah haa" moment:

In Response to Re: Your "ah haa" moment : Haven't really had any revelations in poker, i've played for 3 years across different sites and have never been down on original investment. Of course I have got better and i'd put that to trial and error coupled with listening to the best players around. Also, I think it's important not to be scared of anyone in poker. I don't care if it's stupid, put me in a 6 seat STT which is my bread and butter and i'll back myself to be a winner.
Posted by daveydavey

I wouldn't say scared is the right word. However to be aware of anyone at the table who is better than you is important.

That way you can either leave, if they have position on you, or you can just not play pots with them unless you have the nutz.

scrumdown

thats confidence for u

LadyFingrs

In Response to Re: Your "ah haa" moment:

I don't care if it's stupid, put me in a 6 seat STT which is my bread and butter and i'll back myself to be a winner.
Posted by daveydavey

You realise this is what you're doing every time you buy into one right?

daveydavey

In Response to Re: Your "ah haa" moment:

In Response to Re: Your "ah haa" moment : You realise this is what you're doing every time you buy into one right?
Posted by LadyFingrs

Think alot of people just take a punt when playing poker and have the "it's all about the cards" philosophy. But w/e not important.

OMahonyO

In Response to Re: Your "ah haa" moment:

In Response to Re: Your "ah haa" moment : No problem Rich For anyone interested in the video, here is the link to the hosting site.  I trust that is ok to post? http://www.uploadjockey.com/download/5592331/nl502p2wmv800600.wmv
Posted by scotty77

viewing this link is giving me a headache.  Have I got to download something just to download something or what.  Its like walking through a minefield.  I havent had an accident in the past 12 months and I certainly dont want a free pair of ugg boots.  Whats going on here, I just want to watch the vid??????

scotty77

cant get a direct link cos like you said it is horrible, but here is a cra ppy flash version

http://www.megavideo.com/?d=5OWGIA34

edit heres a download

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5OWGIA34

OMahonyO

In Response to Re: Your "ah haa" moment:

cant get a direct link cos like you said it is horrible, but here is a cra ppy flash version http://www.megavideo.com/?d=5OWGIA34 edit heres a download http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5OWGIA34
Posted by scotty77

cheers got it now