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jams88

what do we think of betting the turn here? i bet for value against ak or any underpairs in hind sight looks abit small but then the huge overshove comes in confusing but an easy fold. Do we still think betting the turn with just tp on this board in a 3bet pot is ok? should bet bigger or check as have shodown value? thoughts pleased found villians line stange not sure what he has/trying to prepresent

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Paulbbm	Sit out
ermburm	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£38.70
wudibluff	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£44.20
	Your hole cards	J A
jams88	Raise		£0.60	£0.90	£42.06
davon121	Call		£0.60	£1.50	£29.91
IDONKCALLU	Fold
ermburm	Fold
wudibluff	Raise		£0.80	£2.30	£43.40
jams88	Call		£0.40	£2.70	£41.66
davon121	Call		£0.40	£3.10	£29.51
Flop
		5 9 J
wudibluff	Bet		£2.33	£5.43	£41.07
jams88	Call		£2.33	£7.76	£39.33
davon121	Fold
Turn
		2
wudibluff	Check
jams88	Bet		£4.00	£11.76	£35.33
wudibluff	All-in		£41.07	£52.83	£0.00
jams88	Fold
wudibluff	Muck
wudibluff	Win		£14.97		£14.97
wudibluff	Return		£37.07	£0.79	£52.04

grantorino

Check back turn imo

What do you do pre v a decent size 3b?

IDONKCALLU

easy fold against this player he has a set or flush 100 per cent 

jams88

In Response to Re: erm...:

Check back turn imo What do you do pre v a decent size 3b?
Posted by grantorino

snap fold. But it was a min 3bet and i was in position don't think i can ever fold to that any hand that i have opened in that situation

jams88

In Response to Re: erm...:

easy fold against this player he has a set or flush 100 per cent 
Posted by IDONKCALLU

Easy fold, but was i correct to bet the turn is what i am asking

IDONKCALLU

yes im betting the turn 

BorinLoner

I wouldn't want to reopen the betting on this turn. If I have the best hand with TPTK here, I don't know what hands I'm going to be able to build a big pot against that don't have alot of equity against me. I'd just be happy to control the pot size and not allow wudibluff to put me in a really tricky position by raising the turn or by leading big on the river.

There's some merit to the argument that we should be charging drawing hands but those drawing hands are unlikely to fold here and will frequently bluff the river when they miss, if we check the turn. I don't think we lose much value by checking the turn and I don't really want to be looking for three streets of value on this board with just top pair.

If I was at the table I might end up betting it myself, though. lol

Pipunch

i would say he's got the nuts.

it's becoming standard for some people to value bet flop, check turn on scary board to induce a bluff to get more value

grantorino

In Response to Re: erm...:

In Response to Re: erm... : snap fold. But it was a min 3bet and i was in position don't think i can ever fold to that any hand that i have opened in that situation
Posted by jams88

Not suggesting u should fold pre, but checking turn seems a good idea when above is the case