30nl thoughts on the thin river overbet here?

DOHHHHHHH

BB is a tight reg.

sb is a loose/spewy/randomly agro semi reg.

utg is a loose/passivey/randomly spewy/stationy semi reg-ish

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
sb	Small blind		£0.15	£0.15	£18.22
tight reg	Big blind		£0.30	£0.45	£29.02
	Your hole cards	Q Q
utg	Call		£0.30	£0.75	£24.76
DOHHHHHHH	Raise		£1.20	£1.95	£64.73
Donttelmum	Fold
SJspanky1	Fold
sb	Call		£1.05	£3.00	£17.17
tight reg	Call		£0.90	£3.90	£28.12
utg	Call		£0.90	£4.80	£23.86
Flop
		K 9 2
sb	Check
tight reg	Check
utg	Check
DOHHHHHHH	Check
Turn
		10
sb	Check
tight reg	Check
utg	Check
DOHHHHHHH	Check
River
		K
sb	Check
tight reg	Check
utg	Check
DOHHHHHHH	Bet		£6.00	£10.80	£58.73

grantorino

delete names in blinds

I prefer less

offshoot

it'd be better if you had air

DOHHHHHHH

I thought if either the bb or utg player had Tx they'd call me .............

Maybe if I was going to overvbet I should have made it bigger. £8+

Not a brag or owt btw, just got 3 folds nvm

jams88

If they are spewy enough there is a chance a 10 will call but not very often imo i think i would go for thinner value around £2.80 and expect to get paid by atleast 1 oppo with half a hand

LOL_RAISE

but were never blufing because we would always cbet the flop with nothing?

DOHHHHHHH

4 way? I'm not cbetting with nothing there v often.

I'm also cbetting all value hands on the flop against 3 players.

I'm much more likely to give up on the flop than I am to check behind with a value hand. 

I think that they should think I never have a King here and therefore a ten should be good. Maybe even 9x/88/77/66/55 or any pair, because I shudn't bet a 10 like this either.

I thought it made sense. is it that bad?

HYPETING

I like £3.35.

offshoot

It just looks like you're trying to recoup lost value. It doesn't matter whether you dont usually have a hand here. In general people will see this as going for max value rather than a bluff. This time they would obviously be right.

You're overthinking how much time a reg(esp 30nl) is going to spend analysing a overbet when they have a marginal hand in a small pot. They will just fold and move on.

yb

In Response to Re: 30nl thoughts on the thin river overbet here?:

but were never blufing because we would always cbet the flop with nothing?
Posted by LOL_RAISE

meh i wouldn't think the average 30nl player is going to be hand reading much at all tbh

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: 30nl thoughts on the thin river overbet here?:

It just looks like you're trying to recoup lost value. It doesn't matter whether you dont usually have a hand here. In general people will see this as going for max value rather than a bluff. This time they would obviously be right. You're overthinking how much time a reg(esp 30nl) is going to spend analysing a overbet when they have a marginal hand in a small pot. They will just fold and move on.
Posted by offshoot

Do you think I should bet the turn then?

Looking back it's probably a better option as 1 of them would probably have put some money in by then with top pair.

I tried overbetting the turn here, I felt I had the best hand again and there's loads worse that can call. (was gonna post this seperately but thought better of it)

I think if I'm going to overbet it's not big enough again?

River is a fold? I bet alot smaller otr as I'm now looking for value from 1p hands. Maybe c/c is a better option after overbetting turn?

I should bet £2 ott and c/c river I think...........

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
FROGGITT	Small blind		£0.15	£0.15	£17.17
DOHHHHHHH	Big blind		£0.30	£0.45	£40.09
	Your hole cards	2 K
PT78	Call		£0.30	£0.75	£29.48
algybarks	Fold
noodles272	Fold
FROGGITT	Call		£0.15	£0.90	£17.02
DOHHHHHHH	Check
Flop
		10 3 K
FROGGITT	Check
DOHHHHHHH	Check
PT78	Check
Turn
		9
FROGGITT	Check
DOHHHHHHH	Bet		£1.20	£2.10	£38.89
PT78	Call		£1.20	£3.30	£28.28
FROGGITT	Fold
River
		K
DOHHHHHHH	Bet		£1.65	£4.95	£37.24
PT78	Raise		£8.25	£13.20	£20.03
DOHHHHHHH

lolufold7

Probably the worst sizing you could go with. Basically shouting out that you have a house or a king. I actually wouldn't mind it if you had a house, hoping one of them is trapping with a king. 

Personally I bet like £1.80 hoping to get called by a 10 or worse.

Lambert180

In Response to Re: 30nl thoughts on the thin river overbet here?:

Probably the worst sizing you could go with. Basically shouting out that you have a house or a king. I actually wouldn't mind it if you had a house, hoping one of them is trapping with a king.  Personally I bet like £1.80 hoping to get called by a 10 or worse.
Posted by lolufold7

I don't think he's ever gonna be the PFR and then not c-bet if he flops a set or TP, so that just leaves TT basically, and that's not likely imo

lolufold7

In Response to Re: 30nl thoughts on the thin river overbet here?:

In Response to Re: 30nl thoughts on the thin river overbet here? : I don't think he's ever gonna be the PFR and then not c-bet if he flops a set or TP, so that just leaves TT basically, and that's not likely imo
Posted by Lambert180

TBH it is irrelevant that he reps little. People at this level aren't going to thing through the hand and be like, 'well he doesn't rep much and I have a ten so I call'. Like offshoot said, they will think he bets big, he must have a good hand, I fold my 10. Maybe he doesn't slow play sets, but with my 10 here I snap fold as it doesn't make sense to overbet with a bluff in this spot. 

Honestly, against these opponents just value bet small and fold to a raise.