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FAO MTT PLAYERS.

DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
edited October 2012 in Poker Chat

I think that every single MTT should have a 500/1k level and a 5k/10k level.

The jump from 400/800 to 600/1.2k is huge. 

The jump from 4k/8k to 6k/12k is also huge.

I propose all MTTs on the site regardless of speed (turbo/standard/deepstack/BH/whatever) should have a 500/1k level.

Do people agree?

We have some tournaments now where we have 500xbb each to start, but then it gets very fast very quickly. the 500/1k level is a minimum requirement imo. We could lose 1/2/3 levels early, to add that single level in later on and it would make the structure alot better. 

Thoughts plz...............................


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  • sikassikas
    edited October 2012
    +1
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  • bolly580bolly580
    edited October 2012
    Please look at pay structures, 40-11 get pretty much same in ME's then top 10 jump massive every level
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  • Wacko90Wacko90
    edited October 2012

    Yeah i agree dohhh. Alot fo the "deep" mtts are only deep for the first few hours because of the big jumps in the later stages. Should be the other way round imo. I supoose antes would help with this problem anyway.

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  • SlykllistSlykllist
    edited October 2012
    + another 1
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  • MAXALLYMAXALLY
    edited October 2012


    I think that every single MTT should have a 500/1k level and a 5k/10k level.

    Agreed.

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  • FlyingDaggFlyingDagg
    edited October 2012
    Totally agree with this. Far too many FT's end up as a shovefest.
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  • FlashFlushFlashFlush
    edited October 2012
    Yeah add those levels, but don't remove the early level blinds!
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  • RLT16RLT16
    edited October 2012
    not that i ever get that far but its +1 from me to :)
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  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ
    edited October 2012
    Yeah, +1, deepstack tournaments should defo include the 500/1000 level, the BB jump from 800 to 1200 is very harsh. No need to drop any early levels though.
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  • percival09percival09
    edited October 2012
    +1 w/ op and bolly
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  • DazlerDazler
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: FAO MTT PLAYERS.:
    Totally agree with this. Far too many FT's end up as a shovefest.
    Posted by FlyingDagg
    yes agreed most final tables are like this and if your a short stack your out within a couple of hands or if your lucky enough to double up or get the average you still have to shove or nothing and thats all the play you get in it hardly ever a raise just 1 person shoves everyone folds until 2 premium hands colide and its in the hands of luck not skill. even if your chip leader 2 calls and your out. With blinds not so high on final table and chipstacks bigger you can play more.
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  • JPW33JPW33
    edited October 2012
    Not that I ever get that far but makes sense to me.
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  • jonjo75jonjo75
    edited October 2012
    +1
    I have always wondered why this level is missed out of  Mtts. Its the same at my casino too.
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  • spurs_13spurs_13
    edited October 2012
    Totally agree with everything stated in this thread. It would be a much better game getting to the FT and being able to play poker rather than winning by default (constant flipping or as I call it "Heads or Tails")


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  • DazlerDazler
    edited October 2012
    always has been a bit daft really that you have to play well at the start and middle stages and then kinda play bingo at the end, All that hard work you do up till that point seems to be out the window by the end.
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG
    edited October 2012
    Everything needs reviewing imo, from types of mtts/payouts/blindlevels/structures/antes/removing unused mtts

    I guess to remain patient is the key and it will all be ironed out in due course as i am sure Sky Poker is aware of this. 

    +1 to the OP tho obv




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  • FlyingDaggFlyingDagg
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: FAO MTT PLAYERS.:
    always has been a bit daft really that you have to play well at the start and middle stages and then kinda play bingo at the end, All that hard work you do up till that point seems to be out the window by the end.
    Posted by Dazler
    Couldn't have put it better Daz. Please take note Sky.
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  • BigMikeDBCBigMikeDBC
    edited October 2012

    + 1 to OP

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  • FCHDFCHD
    edited October 2012
    Agreed - these are also the levels which are easiest to work out stacks to Big Blinds ratios!
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited October 2012

    Thanx for posting all.

    Inevitably tournaments get shallower towards the end.

    But losing 20/40 when the average stack is 80-100xbbs to add 500/1k when the average stack is 12-18xbb would benefit every single tournament without making it any longer.

    Was hoping for more replies from more of the regular tourny crushers. Maybe they're happy with the way things are, or maybe they haven't seen the thread yet.

    Will leave it up for a few days before asking for it to be sent 'upstairs'. If you've seen it, and agree, (or disagree) plz post :)

    ty.
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  • GELDYGELDY
    edited October 2012
    +1
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  • TheDartTheDart
    edited October 2012
    Agree with this captain, does this mean you've been running deep in a few more mtt's recently? :)

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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: FAO MTT PLAYERS.:
    Agree with this captain, does this mean you've been running deep in a few more mtt's recently? :)
    Posted by TheDart
    haha. Rumbled. 

    Everything on this forum is a brag if you look into it! ;)

    Just the usual speed-donkathons where my 12k stack looks great @ 400/800, not so great 5 seconds later when it's 600/12k! :P

    ty & Geldy for ur posts.
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  • MaggiesdadMaggiesdad
    edited October 2012
    I agree with opening post and also that prize structure needs a review. In reality, they both impact on each other - shovefest at end, devalues multi-hours of play at highest cash payouts. It's a bit mad really.
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  • MAXALLYMAXALLY
    edited October 2012


    Yo Doh!

    Just checked the lobbies of the upcoming UKOPS series....

    All these MTT's have those 500/1K & 5k/10k APART FROM..

    29/10   MINI UKOPS2
    30/10   MINI UKOPS3
    31/10   MINI UKOPS4

    (I can see a pattern already)

    2/11  UKOPS6  MAIN & MINI  (Both rebuys)

    4/11  £50K MAIN & £10K MINI  - there is a 500/1k level but no 5k/10k level.

    Not sure if the above will help/hinder your request, but dont shoot the messenger :)
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  • neil1970neil1970
    edited October 2012

    agree totally with your OP dohh i would rather be able to play a bit of poker at the later stages of a mtt than being in shove or fold mode.i think the prize structure needs to be looked at 3 1/2 to 4hrs of play and just about getting your BI back a we bit of tweeking would be great..

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  • SUPERSNEDDSUPERSNEDD
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: FAO MTT PLAYERS.:
    Thanx for posting all. Inevitably tournaments get shallower towards the end. But losing 20/40 when the average stack is 80-100xbbs to add 500/1k when the average stack is 12-18xbb would benefit every single tournament without making it any longer. Was hoping for more replies from more of the regular tourny crushers. Maybe they're happy with the way things are, or maybe they haven't seen the thread yet. Will leave it up for a few days before asking for it to be sent 'upstairs'. If you've seen it, and agree, (or disagree) plz post :) ty.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Totally agree -  gets my vote!!
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  • ste1722ste1722
    edited October 2012
    be nice not to be in a shovefest as neil said 500/1k should be in 
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  • drumahai05drumahai05
    edited October 2012
    +1 to doh the sudden jump as a habit of knocking me off my ladder. a more steady approach to the late stage would give me a firmer grip.
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  • rancidrancid
    edited October 2012
    +1
    steadier curve would be better
    +
    flipping for large relative pay jumps is never desired

    bit more play but you can't help it unless you play a longer time based MTT

    if it's a 5 hr special then shoving is all your going to be doing

    if you flux it so you have antes + longer clocks then it may induce more action mid-late stages so you don't get as many runners sitting around and then there's such a large field flipping because stacks are shallow

    passive fields = more runners flipping 10-20bb  imo in the late stages
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