nl20 - trip aces - shove or call & why

rancid

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
haidyboy	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£21.31
x	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£10.96
	Your hole cards	A Q
Jonno02	Fold
ronnieg197	Fold
rancid	Raise		£0.60	£0.90	£48.39
KING2600	Fold
haidyboy	Fold
x	Raise		£1.00	£1.90	£9.96
rancid	Call		£0.60	£2.50	£47.79
Flop
		7 A A
x	Check
rancid	Check
Turn
		10
x	Bet		£0.20	£2.70	£9.76
rancid	Call		£0.20	£2.90	£47.59
River
		3
x	Bet		£2.90	£5.80	£6.86
rancid

waynec

Im never calling if he has FH/better A so be it, I would bet £6.86!

waller02

looking at his stack I would put him all in

ps soz bout the aj />ak....that was my last (tilt induced) hand of a bad session!

Glenelg

I'm DEF betting flop! I'm def raising turn.   As played you're losing to, A3, A7, A10, AK, 33, 77, 1010.  My guess is A10 tho? ;-((   Woof.

Edit - Forgot, Giving his stack, I'd prob get it in.

IDONKCALLU

y no raise on turn try n win a big pot instead of a small 1

Pipunch

you've got trips and he's ridiculously short stacked. if you're playing AQ, hitting trips against someone with less than a tenner and are hesitant to put the money in then don't bother playing the hand

overthinking it IMO, just get it in

bolly580

bet flop, bet turn, shuv river

rancid

Lets put it another way -

3 bet pre, checks flops. min bet turn, bets pot on river - what range/hand has oppo got mmmmmmmmmm

or do we just say i have trips, lets get em in )

is shoving better than calling :S

Pipunch

why would you call against a short stack where your odds are rubbish cause he has hardly anything behind

why call? to fold scare cards?

this hand doesn't even need analysis.

DOHHHHHHH

The turn is the mistake...

C/back flop is fine, the bits of his 3b range we beat are KK/QQ/JJ. If we bet we can probably only get 1 street from these so no need to bet flop.

Turn we have to raiseeeeeeeeee............ 

River I expect to see AK most of the time, sometimes TT and sometimes random stuff. 

Unknown half stackers don't 3bet worse aces than AQ.

Just call. 

rancid

In Response to Re: nl20 - trip aces - shove or call & why:

The turn is the mistake... C/back flop is fine, the bits of his 3b range we beat are KK/QQ/JJ. If we bet we can probably only get 1 street from these so no need to bet flop. Turn we have to raiseeeeeeeeee............  River I expect to see AK most of the time, sometimes TT and sometimes random stuff.  Unknown half stackers don't 3bet worse aces than AQ. Just call. 
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

I do agree with turn, should raise with all my range tbh - but 12 tabling does have an affect on some decisions )
But if I raise turn I ain't folding so....
river is just meh, for me it comes down to if oppo takes this line with AJ - me don't think so

Is a river shove here only ever spew :S Can oppo v/b KK here mmmm
a lot depends on what we think about the min bet on turn, what is it telling us ?

all fun

DOHHHHHHH

Even if he has KK he probably folds to a shove.

Think it's unlikely AJ 3bets pre. 

Result?

rancid

In Response to Re: nl20 - trip aces - shove or call & why:

Even if he has KK he probably folds to a shove. Think it's unlikely AJ 3bets pre.  Result?
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

But turn I can never raise/fold so pfffffffft - oppo shoves and I am like mmmmm

anywayz - probbaly agree I can go for turn & river v/b's

result - that's imaterial surely

I call , oppo shows AK

waynec

In Response to Re: nl20 - trip aces - shove or call & why:

Lets put it another way - 3 bet pre, checks flops. min bet turn, bets pot on river - what range/hand has oppo got mmmmmmmmmm or do we just say i have trips, lets get em in ) is shoving better than calling :S
Posted by rancid

With his stack size and trips you have to shove there is no other option