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Have I lost the minimum?

BUFCBUFC
edited October 2012 in The Poker Clinic
Big hand for me here in the 6k Open tonight. Have I got off this losing the minimum or should I even be calling on the end? Player has played tight throughout so I'm pretty sure he's not calling off pre with junk. I have to put him on AK or AQ.

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
extramanSmall blind 250.00250.0026460.00
AGENTBONDBig blind 500.00750.0019606.24
 Your hole cards
  • K
  • K
   
Chip_MunchRaise 1500.002250.008120.00
BUFCRaise 3500.005750.006515.00
LCROC22Fold    
jw9999Fold    
extramanFold    
AGENTBONDFold    
Chip_MunchCall 2000.007750.006120.00
Flop
  
  • 8
  • 10
  • A
   
Chip_MunchCheck    
BUFCCheck    
Turn
  
  • 4
   
Chip_MunchBet 1000.008750.005120.00
BUFCCall 1000.009750.005515.00
River
  
  • J
   
Chip_MunchAll-in 5120.0014870.000.00
BUFCFold    
Chip_MunchMuck    
Chip_MunchWin 9750.00 9750.00
Chip_MunchReturn 5120.000.0014870.00
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  • Lambert180Lambert180
    edited October 2012
    If I'm reading the HH right, you have KK and only 13xBB. IMO in an MTT if you have 13xBB with KK and don't get it in, you've made a mistake. I think with your stack you should have just 3bet jammed pre.
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  • GELDYGELDY
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: Have I lost the minimum?:
    If I'm reading the HH right, you have KK and only 13xBB. IMO in an MTT if you have 13xBB with KK and don't get it in, you've made a mistake. I think with your stack you should have just 3bet jammed pre.
    Posted by Lambert180

    20xBB I think so shoving might lose value, but why didn't the villain 4bet shove? could be slow playing AA and is waiting for the c-bet, but could be a lot wider - any reads on the player so far?

    an A on the flop - are you scared of it - your play says yes, so why call the turn bet? Fold or shove. Calling just gives him the confidence to shove the river.

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  • Lambert180Lambert180
    edited October 2012
    Sorry yeah I was looking at 6.5k @ 250/500 but that's after he's already put in 3.5k.

    I definitely c-bet though. I think if you don't bet it's clear you don't have an Ace.
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  • BUFCBUFC
    edited October 2012
    The player has played fairly tight, think this was the first pot he raised UTG. Looking back on it now he could easily have had QQ but at the time I was thinking AK AQ. Yes I was scared of the Ace, I was jamming 100% the flop if it came without the A. Taken all your points on board, I know I haven't played it great.
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  • Bobsicool3Bobsicool3
    edited October 2012
    You have to bet this flop regardless, by checking back he knows you have no ace.
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