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Sunday night live with Sarah Champion and Carlo Citrone *****official show thread*****

edited November 2012 in Poker Chat
I once read one of the Sky regs (I think it was Lol_Raise) say something which summed up the luck/skill arguement very well. In the short term it's probably something along the lines of 80% luck, 20% skill, in the longterm it's more like 99% skill, 1% luck.

My specialist subject would probably be films starring Arnold Schwarzenneger.
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  • edited November 2012

    Happy weekend!  It's Champion and Citrone lined up for Sunday night's live show and if you're taking part in the Primo we'd love to hear from you as we'd like to feature your game in 'analyse my play' *if you'd like us to!* 

     

    We're also giving away free entry into Tuesdays 6K open worth 33 pounds for our favourite contribution to the show so here's a couple of topics to get us started:

     

    First up I found this question online and am interested to hear your take on it ... It's on the old luck versus skill debate!

     

    'I am debating this with my husband. He says that there is 20 percent luck to 80 percent skill... I say it is closer to 40 percent luck to 60 percent skill. What do you all think?'
    ...and for arguments sake let's say in a typical Sky Poker tournament...


    Secondly, loved the story in the week of the guy that earns 60K a year on pub quiz machines!  Did you read about him?  http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4639352/60k-quiz-king.html


    He's memorised all 500 Dickens characters, the number of sets in every wimbledon game and the population of African cities!  So what's your top trivia subject?  (I once named every Christmas number one of the past 20 years in a pub quiz!  comes from working on a radio station for over a decades worth of christmases!)  
    If you were on Mastermind what would your specialist subject be!? 

     

    That's all for now folks, get involved on this thread or email skyopen@bskyb.com

    GL on the tables in the meantime and we'll see you sunday night live from 7 

    Sarah xx

     

  • edited November 2012
    When i win a pot it is obviously 100% skill, however when i lose a pot, it is because some lucky ******* has binked a miracle ******* flop/turn/river(delete as appropriate).

    Hope this clears things up.
  • edited November 2012
    OBVIOUSLY! Got it! ;-)  Loving the Arnie as specialist subject as well!  More of these please! 
  • edited November 2012
    Hi sarah n carlo have a great show 

    if i was on mastermind and my specialist subject would have to be music from the 90's upwards particually anthing from oasis and stone roses ian brown legend :) 

    i think poker is 90 per cent skill 10 per cent luck long term the art of skill is not just having the best hands n winning but bluffing pots reading boards whens a gd spot to bluff etc whens a gd time to raise  yes there is a element of luck when u go all in with a middle pair vs ak etc and bad beats happen the odd 4 outter comes out we remeber the bad beats but im sure we win alot of them aswell part of the game thats why i love it so much the unexpected can happen 

    i cant beat usain bolt at running i cant be as good as messi at football but on a level playing field on a 1 of nite u can beat any professional at the game thats y poker is great :) 
  • edited November 2012
    Oh good call on Oasis and the mighty roses!  D'you know there's a warning you should 'never meet your heroes' but I've had the pleasure of chatting with Ian Brown and both Gallagher brothers and they were all an absolute joy!  (Here's Noel if you're interested! http://www.absoluteradio.co.uk/player/Noel-Gallagher/9768/Interview.html at Isle of Wight Festival back in the summer)

    Thanks for your post!
  • edited November 2012
    your welcome sarah both heroes of mine and just great music   f . e . a r  ian brown great tune  and from oasis i like live forever well so many i will ave a look at the link :) your up late sarah u been out on the tiles :p
  • edited November 2012
    Ha!  Well I do tend to keep the hours of a poker player but yes was out with a few friends last night to see Squeeze, belated birthday present for a friend who's a fan! The link is Noel chatting about his solo career but also the Euros, England were playing that day and he had high hopes at the time! Wrongly of course as it turned out...
  • edited November 2012
    Hi Sarah
    Have you ever met my hero? ... The Legend that is ......... Paul Weller!!
    Have a great show
    Mick
  • edited November 2012
    My mastermind subject would be WWE wrestlemania. I have them all on DVD and I have been to the last two. It would also give me an excuse to watch them all again. Not that I need one!  I think Carlo's subject should be the history of fake tan, Tikay's should be ducks of Great Britian and their habitat (he would probably only get one question as the answer would just go on and on and on). Orford's has got to be spt Leeds side event winners and Greghogg can do the menu at McDonalds!

    Good luck to everyone playing in the FLOPS tonight and over the next week and if you are bored ever head over to Area 51 and check out my 2/4 cash diary. You can even see me hitting my first ever royal flush there!  Ok. Shameless self promotion over. Have a great show and run well tonight all
  • edited November 2012
    Another one Carlo could do is how to keep cool in summer. He just has to keep saying "hose me down"
  • edited November 2012

    Hi All,

    Here's how tonight's LIVE show is going to shape up:

    7pm – 8pm – Tonight On Sky Poker


    We'll have live poker action from the Master Cash tables.....grab a seat for a chance of live analysis

     8pm – 9pm – Analyse my play 


     Playing the Primo? Want to be the star of the show? Email you alas to - skyopen@bskyb.com

     
    9pm – 10pm - Now on Sky Poker
     

    Live 5K Bounty Hunter tournament action
     

    10pm – 11pm – Top Of Sky Poker

    High stakes cash action

    11pm – Midnight – Sky Poker Highlights

    10K Primo coverage

    See you at 7.
     
  • edited November 2012
    In Response to Re: Sunday night live with Sarah Champion and Carlo Citrone *****official show thread*****:
    Hi Sarah Have you ever met my hero? ... The Legend that is ......... Paul Weller!! Have a great show Mick
    Posted by VespaPX
    Hiya Mick I've been lucky enough to be in the same room or muddy field as the mod father more than a few times! Legend! X
  • edited November 2012
    Long term - 10% luck

    Mastermind subjects - I once did a charity Mastermind & did the "STD dialling codes of Yorkshire" on the basis there were limited questions and I could easily memorise all the answers. Sad but true. Still know them (even sadder) from Ripon to Rotherham & from Bridlington to Barnsley.

    I would recommend subjects where there are limited possible questions such as:

    1) The hit singles of Men Without Hats

    2) The International goals of Emile Heskey

    3) The poker wins of Richard Orford (Answer "Leeds side event" to every question)

    4) The successful Bushtucker Trials of Helen Flanagan

    5) Scottish Salads

    6) The bad beats of Julian Thew

    Seriously, I would probably go for the TV series "Fawlty Towers" There are only 12 episodes & I pretty much know them mord for word.

    Have a Great Show!
  • edited November 2012
    No excuses it was a shocking fold with the QQ. I had my reasons, but they were the wrong ones.

    At least i got my first "hose me down!" from Carlo tho

    :)
  • edited November 2012
    Hi Guys.

    Off topic,Just wondering if any comps or anything are on at the moment for hitting a Royal Flush?
    I just hit one in a DYM, Hand ID: 587946876

    On topic, this was 100% luck as I was all in pre flop with pocket Queens!

    Thanks
    Dean
  • edited November 2012
    587991887    can u show this hand from the primo tonight tbh i think i played it pretty bad any constructive criticism would be great 

    once i raised on the flop should i have just checked back the turn for pot control n lose not so many chips ?

    think i got married to an overpair on a low flop 
  • edited November 2012
    Some great contributions tonight so far! Any more for any more? Free entry into Tuesdays 6k open for our favourite post...
  • edited November 2012
    oi! carlo!!

    how come you call me a lucky fish every time i win a hand if there's no luck in poker?

    looking good btw, u2 sarah
  • edited November 2012

    Hi, Have a good show. I think poker is 80% skill, 20% luck, theres only so much you can do if your not lucky enough to get the cards.

    Mastermind .... No idea. lol

    I have stuck notes on my monitor before to remind myself to stick to my BRM. Didnt work.

  • edited November 2012



    Hi sarah and carlo

    last night I won my first bn comp took down the 12k at 8pm... could you please help... when is this bh to be shown on tv many thanks have a ggreat night..philasr..
  • edited November 2012

    hi sarah, carlo,

    skill/luck?

    when you win its skill
    when you lose its luck




    ps when you're carlo its skill obv


     
  • edited November 2012
    Hi GUys,
    Enjoying the show.

    I think poker is 70% skill, 17% luck & the other 13% is usually Chardonnay! Hic! 
    (I do hope that makes 100%!)
  • edited November 2012
    I think over the course of 1 or 2 tournaments luck is part of poker. However the best players in the world wouldn't be the best players in the world if they didn't have skill. I think over the lifetime of a poker player it ultimatly becomes 100% skill.

    I think my specialist subject on mastermind would be the history of Liverpool F.C as thats all we have now anyways.

    Great show as always and loving the analyse my play of the newer members,

    George.
  • edited November 2012
    Hi Guys,

    Great show as usual.  Can you show this hand from the mini Primo as it tells me that there is such a thing as luck in poker...although far be it from me to disagree with Carlo...he is aa legend after all!!  :)

    #588021000

    I think I bet enough through the streets as I knew I was ahead but my opponent wouldn't let go and..bink!!

    I don't think I could have done anything different..I just got unlucky!!!

    Cheers guys...keep up the good work!
  • edited November 2012
    Have to admit I'm shocked by Carlo's 100% skill Comment!
    We've all seen him play, so we know the format!

    10% Armani
    10% Gucci
    10% Head and Shoulders
    20% Tanning Lotion
    40% Toothpaste Whitener
    and
    10% Luck

    Where the 100% skill comes from I haven't a clue or has he been copying my game and meant to say 100% spill

     Great show as always tonight!!
  • edited November 2012
    In Response to Re: Sunday night live with Sarah Champion and Carlo Citrone *****official show thread*****:
    Hi Guys, Great show as usual.  Can you show this hand from the mini Primo as it tells me that there is such a thing as luck in poker...although far be it from me to disagree with Carlo...he is aa legend after all!!  :) #588021000 I think I bet enough through the streets as I knew I was ahead but my opponent wouldn't let go and..bink!! I don't think I could have done anything different..I just got unlucky!!! Cheers guys...keep up the good work!
    Posted by Stewart1
    Hi Stuart

    Thanks for the hand request.

    Will show this hand during the Poker Clinic hour of Thursday's live show. (8pm)
     
  • edited November 2012
    lol...... :)

    Natural tan my BLEEEP!!!

    p.s. there's a nasty cough!!!!
  • edited November 2012
    would you have preferred i said 87.63 skill and 13.73 luck carlo??
  • edited November 2012

    only one possible main mini jackpt

    gerard9

    main 21/35
    mini 10/25


    ps where's richard orford?


  • edited November 2012
    for the people  who think poker is all luck,let them put there money where there mouth is and sit down at the same table as "style" for a week.
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