my 1st every tourny hand how should i play it? im a novice btw

pokerlot

I think you played it fine mate, I like your raise pre and on the flop  maybe a check call after that would be better but you just got unlucky really.

pokerlot

well using my tokens, this was a £750 bounty hunter. ive  only played 3 card brag before so i dont really what im doing as such.

so to my hand, KK its a pretty good starting hand but i think i went to far with it.
how should i play big pairs in future? what sort of things should i be on the look out for when playing ie an A on the flop is bad for me, what cards should i be playing?
also what books or video/dvd/programs should i be reading/watching to improve?
oh well heres the hand, any advise would help loads thanks
vince

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
patriot58	Small blind		10.00	10.00	1240.00
BAGGPUSS	Big blind		20.00	30.00	1710.00
	Your hole cards	K K
tanya1975	Fold
SHOTDAVE	Fold
pokerlot	Raise		100.00	130.00	1770.00
bigorange	Fold
patriot58	Fold
BAGGPUSS	Call		80.00	210.00	1630.00
Flop
		7 10 8
BAGGPUSS	Bet		60.00	270.00	1570.00
pokerlot	Raise		390.00	660.00	1380.00
BAGGPUSS	Call		330.00	990.00	1240.00
Turn
		J
BAGGPUSS	Check
pokerlot	Check
River
		K
BAGGPUSS	Bet		742.50	1732.50	497.50
pokerlot	All-in		1380.00	3112.50	0.00
BAGGPUSS	All-in		497.50	3610.00	0.00
pokerlot	Unmatched bet		140.00	3470.00	140.00
BAGGPUSS	Show	A 9
pokerlot	Show	K K
BAGGPUSS	Win	Straight to the Jack	3470.00		3470.00

pokerlot

In Response to Re: my 1st every tourny hand how i should i play it?:

I think you played it fine mate, I like your raise pre and on the flop  maybe a check call after that would be better but you just got unlucky really.
Posted by jonjo75

i dont feel i was unlucky, he beat me with a straight. my fault for getting excited by the K on the end.

sighcall

Very Very Unlucky lol.

Although you could raise less pre (60/80 is fine - 4x/3x BB)

Then you can raise smaller on the flop, and escape with a decent size chipstack so you can fold the river.

pokerlot

In Response to Re: my 1st every tourny hand how should i play it? im a novice btw:

Very Very Unlucky lol. Although you could raise less pre (60/80 is fine - 4x/3x BB) Then you can raise smaller on the flop, and escape with a decent size chipstack so you can fold the river.
Posted by sighcall

ok cheers sighcall, raise less got it.

bearlyther

Raise less pre personally im making it 60 but i suppose 80 is ok aswell at 10/20 blinds. Fold the river he has lots of 9s in his range after hes called your raise on the flop definately dont raise river.

pokerlot

In Response to Re: my 1st every tourny hand how should i play it? im a novice btw:

Raise less pre personally im making it 60 but i suppose 80 is ok aswell at 10/20 blinds. Fold the river he has lots of 9s in his range after hes called your raise on the flop definately dont raise river.
Posted by bearlyther

should i call or fold river then?

percival09

raise smaller pre and otf

just call otr

bearlyther

In Response to Re: my 1st every tourny hand how should i play it? im a novice btw:

In Response to Re: my 1st every tourny hand how should i play it? im a novice btw : should i call or fold river then?
Posted by pokerlot

I fold river as he has lots of 9s in his range as hes called your check raise on the flop but then again he checks the turn when he hits his straight so its a tough 1 but id fold because of the action on the flop.

pokerlot

In Response to Re: my 1st every tourny hand how should i play it? im a novice btw:

raise smaller pre and otf just call otr
Posted by percival09

i take it otf is on the flop?

percival09

sorry yeah lol

pokerlot

In Response to Re: my 1st every tourny hand how should i play it? im a novice btw:

In Response to Re: my 1st every tourny hand how should i play it? im a novice btw : I fold river as he has lots of 9s in his range as hes called your check raise on the flop but then again he checks the turn when he hits his straight so its a tough 1 but id fold because of the action on the flop.
Posted by bearlyther

ok thanks, got to try and keep an eye on the flop more to try and figure out what they may have

pokerlot

In Response to Re: my 1st every tourny hand how should i play it? im a novice btw:

sorry yeah lol
Posted by percival09

ty

SJspanky1

In Response to Re: my 1st every tourny hand how should i play it? im a novice btw:

In Response to Re: my 1st every tourny hand how should i play it? im a novice btw : ty
Posted by pokerlot

Just UL here versus a legendary fish.........

pokerlot

In Response to Re: my 1st every tourny hand how should i play it? im a novice btw:

In Response to Re: my 1st every tourny hand how should i play it? im a novice btw : Just UL here versus a legendary fish.........
Posted by SJspanky1

just keep playing, just keep playing..

pokerlot

BTW, has anyone got any ideas on what learning material to get on poker?? or rather whats the best to get??

D_Legend

yeh a standrard kooler vs that oppentent i don't think u could of played it different he was still calling.

i term of thing to improve watch the channel also tey a site called 2+2 link http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/32/beginners-questions/

 

and site called poker stry link http://www.pokerstrategy.com/

sign up to both cery easy to do. 

the second one is good because they have quiz to help u learn the game and lots of infor supllierd by seasoned pros 

gl hope the above helps.

also find out how u learn best videos or reading if reading then harrionton on holdem is good book can't say i've read it but from wat i heard it very good 

also use bankroll magement believe this will save i alot of money. e.g. set aside a mount that u don't mind losing average is about £50 should give enought room to play 

unknown_username

Hi P

A good effort m8. I think opening raise is fine. You made him pay to see cards. He was lucky to catch tbh. And then you were unlucky to catch K and be behind. It was the poker gods kicking you in the teeth as it were.
As for learning well there's so much it's knowing where to start. There are good sites that explain the fundamentals and are free. Put something like nlhe starting hands in for 6 max and you'll get a load of articles and charts to use.. Pick one that you gel with and use it as your tutor.
There is so much from starting hands, bet sizing, play with particular stack sizes etc that its impossible to put it in a sentence. I will say that the more effort you put into your poker the better you will play. It won't stop you from getting bad beats but it will help you make mathematically good bets which is all you can do before the poker gods intervene. Gl m8 and i hope you enjoy the game for what it is. Learn the basics, don't spend to much in the meantime and improve your game as you play.