2 questions

phil12uk

Question 1 : can i do anything different how i play? Im new to table, no history, and my turn bet is a kinda river stopper bet in advance for a free river showdown.  I could have got away then as that board is now horrid for KK

Question 2 : For fun.......what hand does he show?

vill	Small blind		£0.25	£0.25	£21.07
Vetman101	Big blind		£0.50	£0.75	£82.78
	Your hole cards	K K
THETANK	Fold
offshoot	Fold
jayh34	Fold
phil12uk	Raise		£1.50	£2.25	£51.00
vill	Call		£1.25	£3.50	£19.82
Vetman101	Call		£1.00	£4.50	£81.78
Flop
		10 7 9
vill	Bet		£0.50	£5.00	£19.32
Vetman101	Call		£0.50	£5.50	£81.28
phil12uk	Raise		£5.00	£10.50	£46.00
vill	Call		£4.50	£15.00	£14.82
Vetman101	Fold
Turn
		8
vill	Bet		£1.00	£16.00	£13.82
phil12uk	Raise		£3.00	£19.00	£43.00
vill	Call		£2.00	£21.00	£11.82
River
		2
vill	Bet		£3.00	£24.00	£8.82
phil12uk	Call		£3.00	£27.00	£40.00

BADBOY985

CANT ANSWER EITHER QUESTIONS WITH OUT THE SOLUTION TO THE HAND

Wilhelm

Got to be AA
or pocket 2s
or 8 2

scrumdown

yes it is phil your kk dont look so good theres a flush draw and a str8 draw  fold em

offshoot

theres no point in raising turn when hes betting so small. Your basically improving his betsizing for him by raising. The last thing you should be thinking about is putting more money in the pot. 

freechips1

i agree with offshoot flat on turn and his river bet is prob only gonna be £2, erm what was he holding im gonna go for 5 6 because if u call a pot size bet with a gut shot u will hit on the next card,

BlackFish3

Played it nicely until the turn where you just want to flat turn and river, if he had the straight or flush he gets hardly any value but when you hit your straight or flush you stack him. Lose small pots and win big ones, this is a chance to lose a small pot. No harm in check calling for pot control. I think he had the straight, but you can afford to pay him off so cheaply.

scrumdown

how can he  phil hit the str8 or flush with kk on that borad blackfish

HartshorN

Im putting him on a 6.

Purely because he's not going mad with his betting and it seems as though he's a little scared by the flushy or higher straight.

pod1

66 I RECKON

scrumdown

think hes already hit the turn  come on phil  show the rest

Hogg321

ill go A8

apollo_11

I don't think there was anything else you could do after the flop and turn.
The board look horrible for the K's.
I would put him on an Ac and an 8

phil12uk

He had 2,2!!!!!!!!!! So many questions after that hand - why? was the main one!

Anyhow, adjusted accordingly as his play was sooo crazy and a while later the following hand arose. As I now knew what he was like, I knew I could confidently win my money back with the all in river bet.

Again, his play was 'creative' to say the least!!!

karlrey1	Small blind		£0.25	£0.25	£24.77
Vetman101	Big blind		£0.50	£0.75	£136.11
	Your hole cards	J J
vill	Call		£0.50	£1.25	£32.43
offshoot	Fold
sim75	Raise		£1.50	£2.75	£10.07
phil12uk	Call		£1.50	£4.25	£43.46
karlrey1	Fold
Vetman101	Call		£1.00	£5.25	£135.11
vill	Call		£1.00	£6.25	£31.43
Flop
		4 2 3
Vetman101	Check
vill	Bet		£0.50	£6.75	£30.93
sim75	Fold
phil12uk	Raise		£4.50	£11.25	£38.96
Vetman101	Fold
vill	Call		£4.00	£15.25	£26.93
Turn
		7
vill	Check
phil12uk	Bet		£7.50	£22.75	£31.46
vill	Call		£7.50	£30.25	£19.43
River
		Q
vill	Check
phil12uk	Bet		£22.69	£52.94	£8.77
vill	All-in		£19.43	£72.37	£0.00
phil12uk	Unmatched bet		£3.26	£69.11	£12.03
vill	Show	2 K
phil12uk	Show	J J
phil12uk	Win	Flush to the Queen	£67.31		£79.34

Hogg321

wow, just hope you keep coming up against him mate easy money!

diablo_pez

grrrr i've searched for Vill and can't find him

LadyFingrs

Bluff-raise the river in the hand in the OP.

Sky_Dave

The thing about the first hand is that the villain's bet sizes are, well... a little unorthodox, let's say. Personally, betting 50p into a £4.50 and then calling another £4.50 on top suggests even they're not sure how good their hand is! 

The turn kind of backs up the point: £1 into a gazillion is either genius play from someone who puts you on a hand you're happy to stack with and they've got the nizzles, or the bet-call meanderings of someone who hasn't found out that potting it with a decent hand might be the way to go. Horrible to play against, but the simple fact is that board is nasty for your hand. That gives us two options:

1) Fold. Bluffing a calling station is practically impossible. Wait for a better spot, take them to Valuetown, head to the ATM and collect winnings/

2) Raise the river. As LadyFingrs suggests, this is an option in normal circumstances. A thinking player might be able to fold hands such as two pair, a set or the idiot straight, but will most likely be calling you with flush draws or top straights. 

I don't like the move against this particular villain because he's calling reraises even when it's £4.50 more after flicking 50p into the pot. If the bet sizes were more orthodox and leverage was something that might apply more, then it's a very decent move though. Float the turn, bet big on the river. Here I think it's just burning money though.

Additional note: I personally would have check-called turn and river as suggested. It's a bit of a weak line, but you're pot controlling against someone who doesn't seem to want to win more than £2.50 or so with their good hands....