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50 nl feel i played this hand badly was out of position so reason i didnt 3 bet preflop thoughts ple

edited December 2012 in The Poker Clinic
any advice would be good please i would of 3 bet pre normally but as i was out of position thought i play small ball
FORDYCESmall blind £0.25£0.25£112.55IDONKCALLUBig blind £0.50£0.75£75.55 Your hole cardsJJ   mickjenn1Raise £1.50£2.25£58.21gerrard9Fold    shark76Call £1.50£3.75£35.08FORDYCEFold    IDONKCALLUCall £1.00£4.75£74.55Flop  826   IDONKCALLUCheck    mickjenn1Bet £2.38£7.13£55.83shark76Call £2.38£9.51£32.70IDONKCALLUCall £2.38£11.89£72.17Turn  A   IDONKCALLUCheck    mickjenn1Check    shark76Bet £3.00£14.89£29.70IDONKCALLUCall £3.00£17.89£69.17mickjenn1Call £3.00£20.89£52.83River  3   IDONKCALLUCheck    mickjenn1Check    shark76Bet £4.00£24.89£25.70IDONKCALLUCall £4.00£28.89£65.17mickjenn1Fold    shark76ShowQ9   IDONKCALLUShowJJ   shark76WinFlush to the Ace£27.44 £53.14

Comments

  • edited December 2012

    it was a mistake to not do a raise preflop.
    i did the same sort of mistake with my betting of QQ did a bet 4x raise preflop but on a dry flop which had 934 i just C/minR followed by a check on the turn before going all in on the river so lost my money to a guy who had j10 to a straight J high.
    so what i have started thinking is the best option with high pairs when out of position would be to be a touch more aggressive knowing that most of the time the callers will have hold of a decent pocket pair a QJ+ suited connector or AQ+unsuited

    if you want to see my have it is posted in the forum as over pairs OOP on dry boards

  • edited December 2012
    Just make it £4 then c bet that flop easy pickings, if you just flat as you have and 1 overcard comes to your hand and pre flop raiser c bets does this mean your gunna just throw it away??.

    Hes making that raise from the button 99% of the time and the rest is fine.
  • edited December 2012
    In Response to 50 nl feel i played this hand badly was out of position so reason i didnt 3 bet preflop thoughts please?:
    any advice would be good please i would of 3 bet pre normally but as i was out of position thought i play small ball FORDYCE Small blind   £0.25 £0.25 £112.55 IDONKCALLU Big blind   £0.50 £0.75 £75.55   Your hole cards J J       mickjenn1 Raise   £1.50 £2.25 £58.21 gerrard9 Fold         shark76 Call   £1.50 £3.75 £35.08 FORDYCE Fold         IDONKCALLU Call   £1.00 £4.75 £74.55 Flop     8 2 6       IDONKCALLU Check         mickjenn1 Bet   £2.38 £7.13 £55.83 shark76 Call   £2.38 £9.51 £32.70 IDONKCALLU Call   £2.38 £11.89 £72.17 Turn     A       IDONKCALLU Check         mickjenn1 Check         shark76 Bet   £3.00 £14.89 £29.70 IDONKCALLU Call   £3.00 £17.89 £69.17 mickjenn1 Call   £3.00 £20.89 £52.83 River     3       IDONKCALLU Check         mickjenn1 Check         shark76 Bet   £4.00 £24.89 £25.70 IDONKCALLU Call   £4.00 £28.89 £65.17 mickjenn1 Fold         shark76 Show Q 9       IDONKCALLU Show J J       shark76 Win Flush to the Ace £27.44   £53.14
    Posted by IDONKCALLU

    I don't mean to have a go at you but your thought process for doing certain things in the hands you post tends to be pretty bad imo. Don't just call this time because you 'fancy' it rather than 3betting.
    When considering 3 betting pre here you should be asking yourself; 
    Do you want to try and get stacks in?
    What range does oppo open with from this position?
    How does he react to being 3bet?
    How often does he 4bet and with what range?
    Will he call with worse very often?
    etc.


  • edited December 2012
    I think you should be 3 betting pre to around £6  as i think its against a random as i dont recognise the name my apologies if im incorrect against a reg calling isnt terrible but i think we should be 3 betting here for value.
  • edited December 2012
    In Response to Re: 50 nl feel i played this hand badly was out of position so reason i didnt 3 bet preflop thoughts please?:
    In Response to 50 nl feel i played this hand badly was out of position so reason i didnt 3 bet preflop thoughts please? : I don't mean to have a go at you but your thought process for doing certain things in the hands you post tends to be pretty bad imo. Don't just call this time because you 'fancy' it rather than 3betting. When considering 3 betting pre here you should be asking yourself;  Do you want to try and get stacks in? What range does oppo open with from this position? How does he react to being 3bet? How often does he 4bet and with what range? Will he call with worse very often? etc.
    Posted by Curt360x27
    +1
  • edited December 2012
    I like pre and postflop

    what curt said
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