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is this a bad shove or a bad call

cheren1984cheren1984
edited January 2013 in The Poker Clinic
at the time i felt i playd it right/ok  but lookin bk now im not 2 sure lol  PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancechubby48ukSmall blind 20.0020.005285.00SKINDOH73Big blind 40.0060.001738.75 Your hole cardsKK   ginger22Call 40.00100.002167.50cheren1984Raise 160.00260.002016.25NEMESIS196Call 160.00420.004580.00chubby48ukCall 140.00560.005145.00SKINDOH73Call 120.00680.001618.75ginger22Fold    Flop  259   chubby48ukCheck    SKINDOH73Check    cheren1984All-in 2016.252696.250.00NEMESIS196Fold    chubby48ukFold    SKINDOH73All-in 1618.754315.000.00cheren1984Unmatched bet 397.503917.50397.50SKINDOH73ShowJA   cheren1984ShowKK   Turn  A   River  3   SKINDOH73WinPair of Aces3917.50 3917.50P
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  • gazza127gazza127
    edited January 2013
    Bit of both - you are losing tonnes of value by trying to push everyone out of the hand with a shove.  I bet 400 on the flop and see what the villain does.  It really depends what range youve put him on, or any notes you have whether you call a shove after this - but I would almost all of the time.  If he flat calls, the ace turn is such a good excuse to get out of the hand cheap.  If its a blank stick the rest in. When you put him all in on the flop he has to make a decision there and then whether the two overs and a nuts flush draw is good enough for a call and you are racing.   Yes, you are ahead and you should win more often than not, but theres no need to stick youre whole tourny on a whim so early on.
    Preflop is good imo.
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