20NL - 3barrelling on very wet board.

Lambert180

No reads, been at the table about 5 mins...

Given his passive/weak line, this is a great river to bluff, right? IMO he has to have Kx or the flush to call off the river and I think that's only a small part of his range.

My only doubt is if I maybe went too small on the river, although this is probably how I'd v-bet more of my value hands here.

Thoughts?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
chico55	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£24.58
titch655	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£22.52
	Your hole cards	7 5
Bramhall21	Fold
BarryQueen	Fold
Prossbag88	Fold
Lambert180	Raise		£0.60	£0.90	£26.53
chico55	Fold
titch655	Call		£0.40	£1.30	£22.12
Flop
		J 9 A
titch655	Check
Lambert180	Bet		£0.90	£2.20	£25.63
titch655	Call		£0.90	£3.10	£21.22
Turn
		10
titch655	Check
Lambert180	Bet		£1.90	£5.00	£23.73
titch655	Call		£1.90	£6.90	£19.32
River
		Q
titch655	Check
Lambert180	Bet		£4.00	£10.90	£19.73

BigHawk89

Yeah the bet sizing is fine on the river. Well played.

percival09

river is fine to bluff but you're just lucky that the Q peels off cos anything else and you kinda just have to x/give up. bet bigger ott imo

raising 57o can be profitable but you have to know what you're doing postflop to make it profitable. the only way a hand like this becomes unprofitable is by playing bad postflop. 

Lambert180

In Response to Re: 20NL - 3barrelling on very wet board.:

river is fine to bluff but you're just lucky that the Q peels off cos anything else and you kinda just have to x/give up. bet bigger ott imo raising 57o can be profitable but you have to know what you're doing postflop to make it profitable. the only way a hand like this becomes unprofitable is by playing bad postflop. 
Posted by percival09

Agreed, are you saying this is an example of playing bad postflop? lol.

But yeah, I think I can play well enough post flop to make it profitable.

percival09

no, but maybe. I'm just saying be careful postflop if you decide to raise these kinda hands cos that's where you can lose money. not preflop. 

I think as played river bluff is good, but I personally give up ott, but if I do bet ott I go bigger as prev said

reason for giving up ott is that I don't really like bluffing readless with v.little equity. 

GREGHOGG

I might not even bother c bettting...

If i do, i also give up on the turn against a readless random...

I think this is a well played hand though, good river to bluff, wouldnt be surprised if u get called by 1 pair though

Lambert180

Nver getting called here with 1pr Greg or if I am, it's a purefish cake and is almost worth it for the note.

He called me off with a set of Js which tbh I still thought was in the hands I could make fold, but notes taken

bearlyther

I like it well played draw heavy boards are great for triple barrelling on.

rancid

agree it's a great run out to barrel unless they have it or can't find the fold button

probs go a little bit bigger on turn & river


oppo obviously knew you never had anything - great call on the end )

GELDY

He's called you all the way

There is no way he would put you on a K

If he calls the turn he calls the river, unless he was passively playing a 4 to the flush draw

Button raise & cbet - could easily be called by 1pr (he won't be liking it, but having come so far.....)

NColley

I think I just fold preflop readless. It's not a sin to fold the button unopened with garbage when you are readless vs the blinds. 

There are far better hands to be testing the waters with then 75o imo. Its just not going to flop well at all and you don't have a clue of how villains play post flop so it opens you up to make mistakes.