30nl rivered trips v solid reg opponent.

DOHHHHHHH

Opponent is a winning 30nl player, pretty solid but not overly tight, haven't seen him spew much or get out of line too often.

Thoughts on the river please?

It's a fold now, but are we raising? Is the size ok?

No specific reads really as I haven't played him (or anyone recently) very much.

Will see me as loose aggressive.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Liberachi7	Small blind		£0.15	£0.15	£31.76
xxx	Big blind		£0.30	£0.45	£42.40
	Your hole cards	5 4
Poker_Fail	Fold
Adicts89	Raise		£1.20	£1.65	£57.56
GuardC4t	Fold
DOHHHHHHH	Call		£1.20	£2.85	£33.11
Liberachi7	Fold
xxx	Call		£0.90	£3.75	£41.50
Flop
		10 3 5
xxx	Check
Adicts89	Check
DOHHHHHHH	Bet		£2.00	£5.75	£31.11
xxx	Call		£2.00	£7.75	£39.50
Adicts89	Fold
Turn
		6
xxx	Check
DOHHHHHHH	Check
River
		5
xxx	Bet		£3.90	£11.65	£35.60
DOHHHHHHH	Raise		£8.00	£19.65	£23.11
xxx	Raise		£14.40	£34.05	£21.20
DOHHHHHHH

NColley

Check flop

As played, yea I think it's fine to raise that river. If villain isn't capable of making huge river bluffs then you can just fold.

beaneh

call and make a note.

grantorino

I prob bet turn intending to barrell river

call river, as played I call the raise as your line looks like some weird bluff 

EDIT: Ignore, misread hand

KKrippler

What, I don't like the above advice.

If this is a winning 30nl player, then he's a reg.

I dont think I can name a reg that would play a hand like this that you beat.

Its an easy fold.

Call and make a note is terrible advice imo. Your going to take a note that he always has it.

grantorino

In Response to Re: 30nl rivered trips v solid reg opponent.:

What, I don't like the above advice. If this is a winning 30nl player, then he's a reg. I dont think I can name a reg that would play a hand like this that you beat. Its an easy fold. Call and make a note is terrible advice imo. Your going to take a note that he always has it.
Posted by KKrippler

misread hand thought it was villain who opened pre

check flop
check turn
flat river lead, fold to the raise

beaneh

In Response to Re: 30nl rivered trips v solid reg opponent.:

What, I don't like the above advice. If this is a winning 30nl player, then he's a reg. I dont think I can name a reg that would play a hand like this that you beat. Its an easy fold. Call and make a note is terrible advice imo. Your going to take a note that he always has it.
Posted by KKrippler

lol at the sweeping generalisation that call is bad, especially given that we will be playing lots of post flop pots 200bb deep, given that we're getting sick pot odds with a much stronger hand than we'll normally have here and also given that you said "if hes a winning nl30 players then he's a reg" that's utter tosh. Very often we will be beat here, but we has trips and are getting a great price combined with other factors like history/meta/pots in the future. do cally. 

DOHHHHHHH

I folded. For once. 

Why are we checking back the flop?

The opening raiser has given up, he's probably check folding. It's a dry board so the big blind has nothing and is probably check/folding too.

I've got a pair, position, but am probably up against 4 overcards. 

Surely I want to bet to protect here? 

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: 30nl rivered trips v solid reg opponent.:

In Response to Re: 30nl rivered trips v solid reg opponent. : lol at the sweeping generalisation that call is bad, especially given that we will be playing lots of post flop pots 200bb deep, given that we're getting sick pot odds with a much stronger hand than we'll normally have here and also given that you said "if hes a winning nl30 players then he's a reg" that's utter tosh. Very often we will be beat here, but we has trips and are getting a great price combined with other factors like history/meta/pots in the future. do cally. 
Posted by beaneh

Don't know about this, what am I supposed to have normally? Top pair?

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: 30nl rivered trips v solid reg opponent.:

What, I don't like the above advice. If this is a winning 30nl player, then he's a reg. I dont think I can name a reg that would play a hand like this that you beat. Its an easy fold. Call and make a note is terrible advice imo. Your going to take a note that he always has it.
Posted by KKrippler

I always think people are bluffing me, as you probably know. And call far too much.

So yes, as a winning/reg player, he will know bluffing me is a bad idea.

But then, he knows that I know that he knows bluffing is a bad idea, so could get some credit.

The 3b size otr is tiny, maybe he's trying to induce a shove from me, much more likely to be the case than trying to get me to fold imo.

If it's a bluff, it's a sick play!

But having c/c the flop OOP 3 ways, he definitely has something. So never a stone bluff imo. 

Still happy with the fold. 

Unless the 30nl regs have started turning top pair good kicker into a bluff otr to try and make people fold trips.

Villain is decent, but I think only wobblylegs and maybe tatohead are capable of this kind of sophisticated play. 

Thnx for replies.

beaneh

In Response to Re: 30nl rivered trips v solid reg opponent.:

In Response to Re: 30nl rivered trips v solid reg opponent. : Don't know about this, what am I supposed to have normally? Top pair?
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

1 pair obv

BigHawk89

Probably a good fold here DOHHHH. Seems like the villian has 10s full to me.

F_Ivanovic

Unless you've seen opponent make this play OTR before I think this is an easy fold and not that close. You don't even beat any other 5's except 53/52 and they're rarely if ever calling pre. 

reeler

he prob has full house. but think u gotta make the call .u invested enough and if ya make that move every time then u will lose money long term. why did u not make a move earlier for the pot before the 5 hit on river to get more info on what your opponent was holding 

reeler

In Response to Re: 30nl rivered trips v solid reg opponent.:

he prob has full house. but think u gotta make the call .u invested enough and if ya make that move every time then u will lose money long term. why did u not make a move earlier for the pot before the 5 hit on river to get more info on what your opponent was holding 
Posted by reeler

what i mean was fire out again on turn