should i of folded?

unknown_username

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
loololollo	Small blind		20.00	20.00	2664.95
Marty642	Big blind		40.00	60.00	2281.29
	Your hole cards	4 K
HALL82	Fold
raggy94	Fold
chaseboy	Raise		80.00	140.00	1955.00
acer131	Call		80.00	220.00	2008.76
loololollo	Call		60.00	280.00	2604.95
Marty642	Call		40.00	320.00	2241.29
Flop
		K 9 K
loololollo	Bet		160.00	480.00	2444.95
Marty642	Fold
chaseboy	Call		160.00	640.00	1795.00
acer131	Call		160.00	800.00	1848.76
Turn
		5
loololollo	Check
chaseboy	Bet		40.00	840.00	1755.00
acer131	Raise		160.00	1000.00	1688.76
loololollo	Call		160.00	1160.00	2284.95
chaseboy	Call		120.00	1280.00	1635.00
River
		8
loololollo	Check
chaseboy	Bet		1280.00	2560.00	355.00
acer131	Fold
loololollo	Fold
chaseboy	Muck
chaseboy	Win		1280.00		1635.00
chaseboy	Return		1280.00	0.00	2915.00

jams88

yes. fold pre

Lambert180

Lol jams +1

cenachav

In Response to Re: should i of folded?:

yes. fold pre
Posted by jams88

Big +1

Never ever call from the small blind with K4 in this situation

unknown_username

sooted

cenachav

In Response to Re: should i of folded?:

sooted
Posted by loololollo

Fold them quicker then, only gets you in more trouble

RyanC7

Why are you calling pre

Why are you donk betting, leading out 4 way, your not that strong here obv any King beats you

What can you beat when you call river? a9 10s Js etc have showdown value and would most likely check behind

All you can beat is some numpty whos gone crazy with 10j 10q

percival09

I love how he asks a question about his play postflop and most people just say fold pre. and that's why sky gets tonnes of hands in the clinic innit

yes u should fold pre obv, but it isn't horrific. 

I prefer checking to the opener than donking out so he can vbet his air/worse hands etc...

if we donk otf I think I follow through and bet ott, but as played wp for c/c and not c/r

I hate calling pre w/ a hand like this and then folding trips otr, but I think it's a good laydown as I doubt villain is ever playing flop/turn/river this way with anything worse. so nice fold imo

try and hand select pre flop better, and play more in position etc... I'm sure you know all of this, but you're just a rec player trying to have some fun etc. take advice if you actually want to improve. The way this hand played out is a good example of why you should fold pre

unknown_username

In Response to Re: should i of folded?:

I love how he asks a question about his play postflop and most people just say fold pre. and that's why sky gets tonnes of hands in the clinic innit yes u should fold pre obv, but it isn't horrific.  I prefer checking to the opener than donking out so he can vbet his air/worse hands etc... if we donk otf I think I follow through and bet ott, but as played wp for c/c and not c/r I hate calling pre w/ a hand like this and then folding trips otr, but I think it's a good laydown as I doubt villain is ever playing flop/turn/river this way with anything worse. so nice fold imo try and hand select pre flop better, and play more in position etc... I'm sure you know all of this, but you're just a rec player trying to have some fun etc. take advice if you actually want to improve. The way this hand played out is a good example of why you should fold pre
Posted by percival09

yeah true it is a trouble hand but i like playing loosely in early torny stages since you can stack people for a small cost with cards people dont expect you have

larry1959

In Response to Re: should i of folded?:

In Response to Re: should i of folded? : yeah true it is a trouble hand but i like playing loosely in early torny stages since you can stack people for a small cost with cards people dont expect you have
Posted by loololollo

Yes you should have folded preflop... playing ''fish hands'' like this in the long term will cost you more money than it will earn. Limping in with this sort of hand in the BB and hitting the flop with your flush (cause thats all your playing for...and it's only a King high flush,) is one thing, but raising or calling raises with it is asking for trouble. Before playing these hands ask yourself..whats beating me preflop(in this case K5 upwards)...and once you've worked that out it will be an easy fold in future.
 The begining of any tournie is about building a stack and K4 suited is NOT the way to go... tighten up and play hands in position

unknown_username

In Response to Re: should i of folded?:

In Response to Re: should i of folded? : Yes you should have folded preflop... playing ''fish hands'' like this in the long term will cost you more money than it will earn. Limping in with this sort of hand in the BB and hitting the flop with your flush (cause thats all your playing for...and it's only a King high flush,) is one thing, but raising or calling raises with it is asking for trouble. Before playing these hands ask yourself..whats beating me preflop(in this case K5 upwards)...and once you've worked that out it will be an easy fold in future.  The begining of any tournie is about building a stack and K4 suited is NOT the way to go... tighten up and play hands in position
Posted by larry1959

you sir are wrong

NoseyBonk

HAVE.

HAVE HAVE HAVE HAVE HAVE HAVE HAVE.

FFS!

Lambert180

In Response to Re: should i of folded?:

HAVE . HAVE HAVE HAVE HAVE HAVE HAVE HAVE. FFS !
Posted by NoseyBonk

Lol

Big +1 I hate terrible grammar

reeler

In Response to Re: should i of folded?:

In Response to Re: should i of folded? : Lol Big +1 I hate terrible grammar
Posted by Lambert180

give the guy a break hes asking for advice and u mock his grammar
hes askin for advice.  think its  a fold  pre flop myself . get what hes trying to do . long term yeah callin with that pre will get ya in trouble. why dont ya no just raise pre and pretend to have some thing else then all in after u hit the flop and if ya have lost then thats just bad luck. and if ya all in he might think ya  bluffin and call.

reeler

raising pre also gives you some info on what they might have yeah. just dont raise with these hands all the time

reeler

u shud have called at the end to see what he had then make a note

percival09

Try to avoid  playing too loose, well you can play loose, and when you become a better player it will become more profitable to do so, but atm while you're still learning the most profitable strategy for you is just to play tight aggressive. 

fwiw this hand has huge reverse implied odds which i forgot to incl

rancid

pre is fine

post flop  is +1 for actually folding

you flop great but no need to take the betting lead, your kicker sux

check flop, bet turn, bet river

+1 to the reverse implied odds comment, but even though you can fold these trips - never fold the 2nd nut flush

your only specualting with 2-3% of your stack, it's fine - just gotta play post flop well enough to eithier lose the min or win the max - KJs would be better though )