help needed

unknown_username

ok, im at a BH torny table where my raises have NO impact? what do i do... shove pre or what?

eg1

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
ethey	Small blind		20.00	20.00	1310.00
loololollo	Big blind		40.00	60.00	4192.50
	Your hole cards	A K
kolomish	Call		40.00	100.00	2300.00
andrew1947	Fold
1jaxonray1	Fold
Mshort	Fold
ethey	Raise		140.00	240.00	1170.00
loololollo	Raise		320.00	560.00	3872.50
kolomish	Call		320.00	880.00	1980.00
ethey	Call		200.00	1080.00	970.00
Flop
		10 8 6
ethey	All-in		970.00	2050.00	0.00
loololollo	Fold
kolomish	Call		970.00	3020.00	1010.00
ethey	Show	6 6
kolomish	Show	9 10
Turn
		8
River
		3
ethey	Win	Full House, 6s and 8s	3020.00		3020.00

craigcu12

how much does it cost to enter this BH?
if i know that it might help answer

unknown_username

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how much does it cost to enter this BH? if i know that it might help answer
Posted by craigcu12

 

5.75

Lambert180

No, don't shove pre, just cos you have AK, does not mean you are going to win the pot. Play properly, play some poker, if you see a flop that you don't wanna continue on, just fold. You can't expect that AK is going to beat QT 100% of the time when a hand plays out or no-one would play anything but the nuts.

craigcu12

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In Response to Re: help needed :   5.75
Posted by loololollo

with it being a low cost their will be a lot more loose and in experienced players so the chances are you will get lots who call with suited cards and any pocket pairs. also a shove will have a greater chance of getting callers just for the sake of a head prize in these low stakes.
here your preflop play was ok and it was best to fold on the flop.
your biggest mistake with your general play is from post flop because you are just not being aggressive enough when you do hit hands. i have a simular problem at times with my cash tables but in recent weeks i've got better and managed to gain more.

unknown_username

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In Response to Re: help needed : with it being a low cost their will be a lot more loose and in experienced players so the chances are you will get lots who call with suited cards and any pocket pairs. also a shove will have a greater chance of getting callers just for the sake of a head prize in these low stakes. here your preflop play was ok and it was best to fold on the flop. your biggest mistake with your general play is from post flop because you are just not being aggressive enough when you do hit hands. i have a simular problem at times with my cash tables but in recent weeks i've got better and managed to gain more.
Posted by craigcu12

ok ty man makes sense

larry1959

On a previous post you were defending a call with K4 suited in the BB, because you like to ''play cards people dont expect yoiu to have'' and try and take down these sort of hands, in the early stages... so why are you posting this and complaining that you were called and beaten at your own game????

Having said that..why reraise..you haven't got the nuts and preflop you are beaten by any pair...flat call the raise see a flop and fold if needed...save yourself some chips..
 In reply to Craig... getting all your chips in  preflop would have got you a called by the guy with the pocket 6's, if he's willing to call your reraise'he'd call an all in and you'd be out....see the flop first then extract the value..

step7

I play the 35p BH for fun and the schooling there is terrible - surprised this happening at fiver level.

I think your play here is spot on and the 3 bet to try and thin the field is fine, glad to see u let go of AK when u whiff! Shoving pre is a losing play for sure - avoid coin flips early like the plague.

66 calling is fishy IMHO to set mine as stacks no where deep enough to pay them off

My tips in these bingo fests:

Playing in late postion really helps and pot control until you hit that monster;

Join the limp fest with specualtive hands if getting a great price, but again ur waiting for monsters not top pair with JTs;

3 Bet shove monster pairs, but go easy with AQ AK -- they're drawing hands at the end of the day;

Remember most of the prize pool is for placing so dont go bounty crazy. Stick to a more "normal" SNG approach and pick up the bounites along the way.

Sit tight early game, let a few limpits disappear. It's easier to isolate with a shorter table and some of the remaining players might be able to fold now and then.

Craig has a good point with the head hunters, you've probably played enough of these to see some of the crazy all-in calls, use that to you advantage but don't fall foul of it in 5050 or 6040 spots.

bearlyther

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On a previous post you were defending a call with K4 suited in the BB, because you like to ''play cards people dont expect yoiu to have'' and try and take down these sort of hands, in the early stages... so why are you posting this and complaining that you were called and beaten at your own game???? Having said that..why reraise..you haven't got the nuts and preflop you are beaten by any pair...flat call the raise see a flop and fold if needed...save yourself some chips..  In reply to Craig... getting all your chips in  preflop would have got you a called by the guy with the pocket 6's, if he's willing to call your reraise'he'd call an all in and you'd be out....see the flop first then extract the value..
Posted by larry1959

Not 3 betting here would be a mistake as in a small stakes tourney people will call and gamble with a hell of a lot worse so therefore ak becomes the effective nuts in a game like this.  You are going to lose so much value by only flat calling with ak here and not 3 betting.