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have to snap this off??
Early stages of a 2.20 deepy...same old story limp limp limp limp
Here I get the old limp/shove. Alarm bells ring and I think maybe he has aces, but surely I still have to snap this off???
He obv did have aces and I made a note of it and left with my tail between my legs. But always a call??? I'm 99% sure I will get replies saying....you should quit if you fold etc....but as I have mentioned in the clinic before, I'm running and playing bad and not even sure what I'm doing tbh lol I actually thought to myself "ACES" but felt I had to call as so many more times I'm a country mile ahead??
Here I get the old limp/shove. Alarm bells ring and I think maybe he has aces, but surely I still have to snap this off???
He obv did have aces and I made a note of it and left with my tail between my legs. But always a call??? I'm 99% sure I will get replies saying....you should quit if you fold etc....but as I have mentioned in the clinic before, I'm running and playing bad and not even sure what I'm doing tbh lol I actually thought to myself "ACES" but felt I had to call as so many more times I'm a country mile ahead??
| scarle1 | Small blind | 20.00 | 20.00 | 5052.50 | |
| digbylady | Big blind | 40.00 | 60.00 | 4587.50 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| tiamac58 | Fold | ||||
| x | Call | 40.00 | 100.00 | 5420.00 | |
| pablodiabo | Call | 40.00 | 140.00 | 4782.50 | |
| waller02 | Raise | 200.00 | 340.00 | 5247.50 | |
| scarle1 | Fold | ||||
| digbylady | Fold | ||||
| x | All-in | 5420.00 | 5760.00 | 0.00 | |
| pablodiabo | Fold | ||||
| waller02 | All-in |
Comments
I'm overthinking things too much, too often.......next hand lol
I didnt !!!!
have respect for how people play. You play yours . i'll play mine and not call people names if I get it wrong LOL
You have to snap it off yes, ul if it's AA
EDIT: Actually, just saw this was limp UTG then re-raise all in. Embarrassing when people do this cos it's a trick that literally works once if you have a brain. Now every single time said person gets AA V you, they just won't get paid anything.
to be fair this move (and so deep) is so often AA it's ridic. I find it hard to fold KK because this is not the play of a good player and so could be done with worse hands. Nothing much lost if you fold, and if you're better than the field (which I'm sure you are), probably the better route.
I didn't specifically call you a fish...I said "i can't fold out the fish" after having to fold the aces on a 4 to the stright board. And, it wasn't even said in a nasty way....
What were the only words I said when I ran into your limped aces???? Oh yeah "nh and gl".....so don't come on here trying to make me out as some rude and abusive person please
Lets just limp KK just in case someone might catch up when they're getting bad odds to do so, then when they have QQ we can pat ourselves on the back for winning 150 chips
You pro's have really got to start realising that until the flop comes your hand is worth nothing. Yes the percentages might be in your favour but that is all . I will always try to see the flop for as little as I can and if that is wrong then sorry peeps .
However if I have a strong hand after flop or someone wants to race me and I los so be it.
You really shouldnt get out of your prams over a £2.20 tournie when people play my way.
The only problem I have is you coming on here trying to make me out to be abusive.....the only 2 sentences I typed during the whole game were
1. "Sigh AA, can't fold out the fish"
2. "NH and GL"
I blanked out your name in the post, didn't question the villains play in the post....only mine
Whats ur problem???
OK I'M A FISH
If I was moaning I would have put it in BBV with the whole hand saying "look how bad I run blah blah blah"
You are the one who came straight on here moaning....and I didnt even say I was gonna post the hand....
You lost and you didnt like it .Get over it
Waller clearly doesn't like losing - That's a given for all of us. However, he does not come across as a sore loser in any of the posts I've ever seen from him, including this one. He's asked a genuine question and that's what the poker clinic is for. As it is, Waller does not seem to have behaved improperly. I can't comment upon the chat at the table because doing so would be to comment without any of the necessary context.
Waller, this is fairly dependent on your idea of the opponent. In a vacuum you should always be making the call. You really do need to have seen them do this before in order to fold because, even though it seems ridiculous, people will make this move just because they think you're "at it" and they can be holding lots of worse hands. It does stink of AA, and will be that more often than it is any other particular hand, but you're still beating the villain's range.
Vaigret, I wouldn't usually comment on the play of someone who hasn't asked for advice. However you have posted some of your reasoning here and I can tell you that this play is not good, regardless of your hand. If you want people to elaborate on that, I and others will happily explain our reasoning at some length but for now I can assure you that your thought processes are not great.
If you don't care about having your play analysed or getting involved in the analysis of other hands, then please don't post in the clinic. As I say, nobody knew you were the villain until you told us.
People should be pleased if I am a bad player, take my money. If i play a hand badly and I do a lot then I will take the blame for it . Waller got outgunned by a "bad" player and he didnt like it full stop.
His two aces that he lost was against my 9, 10 suited with I think a flop of 6.8, K? The turn was a 7 so I had a straight. Fishing ????? dont think so . My mistake was rasing after the river so I didnt get a taker.
When I want advice Borin I will ask for it.
What I didn't like was the fact you came onto this thread trying to make me out to be abusive....if me saying "I can't fold out the fish" is abusive then we live in a very sensitive world.
Look m8 I dunno whats rattled your cage but you are the one who has come on here needlessly with some kind of issue......lets close this thread and move on eh
and good luck on the tables.
As I said; if you don't want people to elaborate on their thoughts on your play, then we won't. This is however the poker clinic and the OP requested some analysis of the hand, on which I offered my views. When you post your thoughts in the clinic you should expect them to be subjected to scrutiny, as that is what the section is for. If you don't want that, don't post here.
I have no desire to upset anyone. However if I have inadvertantly done so, I apologise.
Thank you for your apologyBorinLoner, although I cannot see anything in wallero2's opening post referring to villian.
I suggest opponent is a better word.
Villain means - scoundrel, evil person, character at odds with a hero, a peasant. I dont beleive any person on this site needs to be called that. Unless of course all people on this site who play the "proper" way are hero's and anybody who has a different way of playing is a peasant, evil person etc etc.
Sounds like I have had a humour by pass LOL but perhaps I am being ironic here LOL
Good luck on the tables and have fun. With the variance of the players and variance on poker sites it really is the only way to approach poker online.
To be honest W, its a 2.20 deepie and without knowledge of the player i think you have to call. The number of times after four betting and showing, to my mind that i had AA,KK,maybe QQ i was put all in by for example in last nights DTD TT is a surprise to say the least. Further 'poor' play by the same player confirmed this 'rashness'. Maybe the price of the game you were playing should push you to call here as in a higher % of cases than higher staked games you are dominating.
glad you saw the joke ,
I think