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TPGK, shove on the flop by oppo,.

edited February 2013 in The Poker Clinic
Just been re seated so no reads on oppo.

Could he be shoving here with mid PP ? The limp pre confused me, if he`s got a premium hand i`d have been re raised.

Easy call or fold?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
xxxx Small blind  50.00 50.00 6345.00
davelufc Big blind  100.00 150.00 8055.00
 Your hole cards
  • Q
  • A
   
WATERTAXI Call  100.00 250.00 2701.25
SAS10 Fold     
ranger2910 Fold     
swg85 Fold     
xxxxCall  50.00 300.00 6295.00
davelufc Raise  300.00 600.00 7755.00
WATERTAXI Call  300.00 900.00 2401.25
xxxxCall  300.00 1200.00 5995.00
Flop
  
  • 5
  • A
  • J
   
xxxx All-in  5995.00 7195.00 0.00
davelufc  ? 

Comments

  • edited February 2013
    u must be beat or oppo is dumb bluff bad or goes lolz crazy with A10/KQ

    would be amazed if oppo doesn't show you 3x5

    finks it's an easy fold you have invested very little
  • edited February 2013
    If you had under 20 bigs i would SNAP it off. No way im calling off 60 bigs though, not with your stack :)

    Would not have a clue what the villain has, very confussing...
  • edited February 2013
    I usually snap this off thinking "Why would you shove with a set or two-pair?" Usually they then show me a set or two-pair and they've shoved either because they're very inexperienced and have got a bit excited or they know that I'm a massive donkey and will call with any decent Ace.

    I don't know whether that's just my perceptions of these situations being biased by those times they have had a monster. Maybe I've won more of these than I've lost, but don't recall the wins. Either way, limp-calling doesn't make sense for AK, AA or JJ, so I call thinking my opponent can have AT or worse. Logically I think I should be ahead, so I ignore the "feeling" that I always see big hands here. I actually don't know which is right but I hate folding because I'm afraid.

    Take a note in these spots. You can get your answer either if you call, or if you see him do the same later or play a set differently on another board. If you stack off here, it should be the one and only time if you make a good note.

    The shove makes no sense and is a good indicator of an inexperienced player. If you chose to fold because you think there will be better spots against them, then that's fine too...
  • edited February 2013
    Thanks all, unusual line by oppo here!! I got trapped here and no mistake!!

    Had the same thoughts as BL, as in , why would they shove with a set or 2 pair. 

    Notes made and move on. Ty
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    xxxxSmall blind  50.00 50.00 6345.00
    davelufc Big blind  100.00 150.00 8055.00
     Your hole cards
    • Q
    • A
       
    WATERTAXI Call  100.00 250.00 2701.25
    SAS10 Fold     
    ranger2910 Fold     
    swg85 Fold     
    xxxxCall  50.00 300.00 6295.00
    davelufc Raise  300.00 600.00 7755.00
    WATERTAXI Call  300.00 900.00 2401.25
    xxxxCall  300.00 1200.00 5995.00
    Flop
      
    • 5
    • A
    • J
       
    xxxx All-in  5995.00 7195.00 0.00
    davelufc All-in  7755.00 14950.00 0.00
    WATERTAXI Fold     
    davelufc Unmatched bet  1760.00 13190.00 1760.00
    xxxx Show
    • K
    • A
       
    davelufc Show
    • Q
    • A
       
    Turn
      
    • J
       
    River
      
    • 4
       
    xxxxWin Two Pairs, Aces and Jacks 13190.00  13190.00
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