am i wasting money calling the turn

craigcu12

preflop i misclicked so didn't raise it correctly which didn't help
on the turn i have two over card and a flush draw so went with the call
was it worth the call or should i just fold if i don't even have a pair already or updown straight draw as well to chase

AurorA23	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£6.56
craigcu12	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.37
	Your hole cards	K 10
homer7760	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£3.62
AlphaShark	Fold
W0DGEY	Fold
AurorA23	Call		£0.02	£0.12	£6.54
craigcu12	Raise		£0.08	£0.20	£4.29
homer7760	Call		£0.08	£0.28	£3.54
AurorA23	Call		£0.08	£0.36	£6.46
Flop
		9 6 4
AurorA23	Bet		£0.36	£0.72	£6.10
craigcu12	Call		£0.36	£1.08	£3.93
homer7760	Fold
Turn
		7
AurorA23	All-in		£6.10	£7.18	£0.00
craigcu12	All-in		£3.93	£11.11	£0.00
AurorA23	Unmatched bet		£2.17	£8.94	£2.17
AurorA23	Show
craigcu12	Show	K 10

BorinLoner

It's quite a simple pot odds question.

Your break even point is: 3.93 / 8.94 x 100 = 44%

Your chances of winning the hand, even if your opponent has a hand as weak as Ac9c, are 41%. So even if your opponent just has one-pair below your Ten, you don't have the correct odds to call.

sighcall

raise bigger pre.

Dont call a pot bet on flop, especially at this level, just wait untill you get a hand and bet strongly.

Defiently just fold turn.

RyanC7

at 4NL you 4bet fold QQ pre, then CALL all in with K hi. Dont make much logical sense

craigcu12

In Response to Re: am i wasting money calling the turn:

at 4NL you 4bet fold QQ pre, then CALL all in with K hi. Dont make much logical sense
Posted by RyanC7

this had twice been misclicked, i wanted to raise it to 20o preflop but clicked the raise button just below the 4xmin raise so ended up min raising as for thew flop well i just guessed he had a pair of 9's.

As for the fold with pocket Q's well i could go back to the board which had 555j i was facing a shove by the villian and had pocket 10's when i ask if i should chall or fold at first they said i should fold but when i revealed the result people started saying i should call know that i  was ahead basically i will never know the final answer for my QQ unless the villian himself reveals it.

what i do know but is that although most villians just play for fun their are some villians who do play for the money too and are very good ie clubhammer tintin.
it was proved when i asked about my flush on a paired board that got reraised against clubhammer people were saying i was wrong to call and had to fold river and clubhammer himself was nice enough to show his hand later and revealed that i was wrong to make the call when he reraised me because he was not a villian who would do reraising with weak flushes he was much more likely to have the FH or nut flush.

salazar

Raise bigger pre especially with a caller already. fold flop, fold turn.

One card to come you're 4-1 on your flush and about 11-1 of hitting the miricle 8. 

Without trying to be harsh, this looks like an example of how to lose money fast. Still, as long as you learn from it, that's what matters.

BorinLoner

There really isn't much reason to raise pre-flop at all. You have a marginal value hand, out of position. Check and take a flop but don't get carried away with just one-pair.

On the flop, fold to the donk-lead. You have King-high, only back door draws and terrible pot odds. What sort of hand do you think he's leading for full-pot with on this flop? There are occasions when it can be appropriate to call a flop bet, in position, as a float to take it away on the turn if your opponent checks. Usually, though, facing a full-pot lead with a hand of little value, it's just better to let it go. You've only invested 3BB at this point.

As I said earlier, the turn is a fold even if his hand was the weakest it can conceivably be. Against his overall range it's certainly a very -EV call.

The_Don90

Ive not read anyone elses comments.

Go to a cashline, withdraw £5 

Walk away and set fire so said fiver. 

Much easier. 

on a serious note, pre is pointless. the flop is terrible, turn is horrific.