£11 £1k BH - Part 2 (3bet jam)

Lambert180

Same tourney, same table, not long after the other hand.

Spewy or standard?  Obv same reads as other post. To add a little to it, they haven't been opening much but at least when they have been it's been a minraise and not a limp. Given how tight they are I think they'll fold all of their opening range minus probably AK and TT+

Again walked into the top of his range but meh can live with that.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Lambert180	Small blind		800.00	800.00	26927.50
Ginger	Big blind		1600.00	2400.00	19520.00
	Your hole cards	8 A
Posh	Raise		3200.00	5600.00	17920.00
Scary	Fold
Lambert180	All-in		26927.50	32527.50	0.00
Ginger	Fold
Posh	All-in		17920.00	50447.50	0.00
Lambert180	Unmatched bet		6607.50	43840.00	6607.50
Lambert180	Show	8 A
Posh	Show	K K
Flop
		4 Q K
Turn
		6
River
		J
Posh	Win	Three Kings	43840.00		43840.00

rancid

If your reads are correct then snap fold

even when opps calls with btm of range you just don't have enough equity

bearlyther

I think its a fold as we cant expect him to be raise folding out of his stack size and you say he hasnt been opening much then i think he will have us crushed nearly all the time.  You have 16 bigs no need to put your stack in here you can wait for a better spot especially against players who you will have an edge against.

BorinLoner

In Response to Re: £11 £1k BH - Part 2 (3bet jam):

I think its a fold as we cant expect him to be raise folding out of his stack size and you say he hasnt been opening much then i think he will have us crushed nearly all the time.  You have 16 bigs no need to put your stack in here you can wait for a better spot especially against players who you will have an edge against.
Posted by bearlyther

This.

With about 13BB we can't really expect him to raise-fold. Considering he also has a tight range I think it's definitely a fold.

Against a more regular opening range I wouldn't be 3-betting light with less than 15-16BB effective. It's usually better if our opponent has the bigger stack, too, as weaker players usually only think about their own stack when opening. So they open wider when they "can afford it", regardless of effective stacks.

sighcall

snap fold pre 24 hours a day 7 days a week

Curt360x27

Why on earth are you 3 bet jamming light vs a player like this - 'To add a little to it, they haven't been opening much but at least when they have been it's been a minraise and not a limp. Given how tight they are' who has just opened UTG from a 13bb stack?!?!?!  

You want to be targeting players who are opening to wide from various positions who are not going to have a strong enough hand to call it off with an effective stack whereby were not going to be exploited by given them good enough odds to justify calling you light. Also on the occasions we are called were not going to be crushed by a top end range.

rancid

Think it's fair comment to mention that while you want folds you need to think about the times you are called and by what range and how your stack up against that range regarding your equity

Don't think a lot of people think about the range that they will be called by, they just want oppo to fold

if your shoving unpolarised range you really need to think about caling range