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taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary

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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited September 2011
    MP, what's the thinking behind making it 4xbb OOP with 45 against a 50xbb limper?

    With the AJs, why c/r so small?


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  • MP33MP33
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:
    MP, what's the thinking behind making it 4xbb OOP with 45 against a 50xbb limp er? With the AJs, why c/r so small?
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    just mixing it up a bit and no-ones gonna put me on that hand

    The AJ - was a strange one . was trying to find out where i was against an opponent who wanted to play in most pots with me - It was all a bit cat and mouse with this guy
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  • MP33MP33
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:
    Jeez your pretty loose MP33..... A8 first hand just fold imo KQ pre ok, not sure about flop raise then call off on draw seems gambly to me. KK bet more on flop and turn but unlucky, J10 I personally don't like call OOP, also this is why you should top up ALL THE TIME, flop I bet more about 90p,turn bet slightly more, river call not sure probably ok with what you've put in. 45s can't really see the point in rasing smallish OOP just call and see cheap flop, 30p bet is too small at least 65p for me, unlucky again. AJ pre ok, flop I don't understand check then minraise surely better to just call down, turn bigger if you put him on draw, river not sure again I probably fold.
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    A 8 - Was on the button _ couldn,t resist on pretty active table and the J 10 was player dependant

    Thx for comments tho - Will bear them in mind

    The 30p raise with 45 OOP was a bit small - 50p would have been better - Its not a hand i,m always gonna play but I strongly beleive in mixing your game up.

    For example sometimes i will just flip a coin as what to do or how to play a hand as if I don,t know how i,m going to play it - who else is?
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary : A 8 - Was on the button _ couldn,t resist on pretty active table and the J 10 was player dependant Thx for comments tho - Will bear them in mind The 30p raise with 45 OOP was a bit small - 50p would have been better - Its not a hand i,m always gonna play but I strongly beleive in mixing your game up. For example sometimes i will just flip a coin as what to do or how to play a hand as if I don,t know how i,m going to play it - who else is?
    Posted by MP33
    I personlly don't think there's any need to 'mix your game up' at NL10 but that's just me and if I did want to mix it up I would make that move on the button giving me position to make playing the hand a lot easier, doing it in the small blind is crazy imo.
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  • MP33MP33
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary : I personlly don't think there's any need to 'mix your game up' at NL10 but that's just me and if I did want to mix it up I would make that move on the button giving me position to make playing the hand a lot easier, doing it in the small blind is crazy imo.
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    Fair point

    I did write some more stuff in a reply to the Don, about that hand but it got wiped off as the site went down for maintenance last night

    How long u played Nl10 for?

    Ive  had spells before at this and higher levels but not stuck at it consistantly so I,m still learning at this level really and will stick with it unless I lose so many buy-ins that I have to return to NL4
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary : Fair point I did write some more stuff in a reply to the Don, about that hand but it got wiped off as the site went down for maintenance last night How long u played Nl10 for? Ive  had spells before at this and higher levels but not stuck at it consistantly so I,m still learning at this level really and will stick with it unless I lose so many buy-ins that I have to return to NL4
    Posted by MP33
    Well about 14k hands right now, in terms of losing BI's of course once you lose enough then you just move down, it should always be a fluid model where you move up and down as you get enough in your Roll. Like for instance I want to move up to NL20 eventually but am having a lot of run bad now so I just stick at NL10 until I get to where I'm happy to move up. I just think your play is a little loose and against most fish it won't work very well, maybe against NL30 regs it will.
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  • pod1pod1
    edited September 2011
    i think you both should be playing nl30 with your games, to be fair i hope you stay down there!
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  • pod1pod1
    edited September 2011
    think you might do wellsaints01Small blind £0.15£0.15£60.38pod1Big blind £0.30£0.45£31.30 Your hole cardsQQ   codseyesFold    Jason007Call £0.30£0.75£13.37 Raise £0.90£1.65£69.14saints01Fold    pod1Raise £2.40£4.05£28.90Jason007Call £2.40£6.45£10.97 Call £1.80£8.25£67.34Flop  J64   pod1Bet £8.25£16.50£20.65Jason007Fold     Call £8.25£24.75£59.09Turn  5   pod1All-in £20.65£45.40£0.00 Call £20.65£66.05£38.44pod1ShowQQ    Show4K   River  2   pod1WinPair of Queens£64.25 £64.25PrevClose window
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8
    edited September 2011
    LOL, tbh I did take a look at a NL20 table a for a few hands recently and it was very similar to NL10, a few regs but also stations who limped every hand.
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  • pod1pod1
    edited September 2011
    honest mate, you would kill this level. i would stake you , but 20 bis is getting a bit steep. you would play with my money better than me thats for sure.
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  • The_Don90The_Don90
    edited September 2011
    For all readers,

    I havent played fora couple of days had last minute prep to sort out for going to Dublin. I fly out later on today so if all goes well and im ready to go ill try get a few hours in but its looking a little unlikley i have to say.

    The last time i played i didnt right it in as it was only for the HU challenge thing. I made a small profit and have £80.44 in the account after making the £3.15 level twice and then the £5.25 on the other occassion.

    My next proper grind will likley be when i get back.
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  • pod1pod1
    edited September 2011
    good luck don, lots of guiness and  give your blarny stone a little rub! tid fella.
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  • The_Don90The_Don90
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:
    good luck don, lots of guiness and  give your blarny stone a little rub! tid fella.
    Posted by pod1
    cant drink the stuff, im just hoping theyve imported soe scottish lager, failing that american
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  • pod1pod1
    edited September 2011
    ok i see, you can just drink the light gnats p i  ss stuff lol. call yourself scottish!! should be 2 bottles of buckfast for brekkie couple of krunk for lunch and a bottle of single malt for dinner. at that stage you will be playing poker like me    lol
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  • The_Don90The_Don90
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:
    ok i see, you can just drink the light gnats p i  ss stuff lol. call yourself scottish!! should be 2 bottles of buckfast for brekkie couple of krunk for lunch and a bottle of single malt for dinner. at that stage you will be playing poker like me    lol
    Posted by pod1
    buckfast is just water mate.
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  • pod1pod1
    edited September 2011
    never tried it to be fair, but i know you guys drink it like its going outta fashion up there
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  • The_Don90The_Don90
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:
    never tried it to be fair, but i know you guys drink it like its going outta fashion up there
    Posted by pod1
    its more the younger Neds (chavs) that drink it, although i know a vast number of older people that do drink it. If your going to try it put it in the freezer for about 15-20 mins before drinking (dont allow it to freeze or become slush) just enough to properly chill it. Or leave it in a fridge overnight. makes a massive differance.
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  • BLACK_MASSBLACK_MASS
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary : its more the younger Neds (chavs) that drink it, although i know a vast number of older people that do drink it. If your going to try it put it in the freezer for about 15-20 mins before drinking (dont allow it to freeze or become slush) just enough to properly chill it. Or leave it in a fridge overnight. makes a massive differance.
    Posted by The_Don90
    Yep the oldies know something usually. Alcoholics classic beverage along with the little known Barley Wine.
    Thanks for acquainting me with the term Ned. You learn something new everyday.
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  • The_Don90The_Don90
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary : Yep the oldies know something usually. Alcoholics classic beverage along with the little known Barley Wine. Thanks for acquainting me with the term Ned. You learn something new everyday.
    Posted by BLACK_MASS
    Its just a scottish term.

    I was also told by a group of people theres a number underneath the bottle (i can never spot this) but aparently a number 1 tastes better than any other number.

    All tastes the same to me lol.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN
    edited September 2011
    GL donald tweet updates please
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  • The_Don90The_Don90
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:
    GL donald tweet updates please
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    will try to that reminds me will phone orange and see what deal ive got on internet accsess from ROI.
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  • sillymunchsillymunch
    edited September 2011
    I just was reading one of your previous posts and noticed we have something in common ;o

    It was a post about learning difficulties, and how it affects your game, you said you have aspergers syndrome....

    SNAP :) how do you find it affects your game does it make it easier or harder?
    also i think this is why we are both suseptable to tilting, cus having aspergers helps our game as it is the game of poker is based on logic, with a bit of luck involved, so when we see illogical calls being made and paying off it frustrates us.... what do you think?
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  • The_Don90The_Don90
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:
    I just was reading one of your previous posts and noticed we have something in common ;o It was a post about learning difficulties, and how it affects your game, you said you have aspergers syndrome.... SNAP :) how do you find it affects your game does it make it easier or harder? also i think this is why we are both suseptable to tilting, cus having aspergers helps our game as it is the game of poker is based on logic, with a bit of luck involved, so when we see illogical calls being made and paying off it frustrates us.... what do you think?
    Posted by sillymunch
    I also suffer with Anxiety id always put my server amount of tilt to that. Thats often a sub-effect of Aspergers btw. I have been reading "the mental game of poker" which has helped a little but not much tbh, it has some really good stuff in but since i think my case is different from the vast majority i dont think it helped me much. I will read it again and recommened it to anyone though as the small differance it has made is due to how i understand poker.

    Ill be more than happy to discuss my issues with you mate, ill give you a pm with my msn address when i get back from Dublin as i wont have time today (leaving at 3 and havent packed yet). Elsadog came up with a very valid point aswell about us all being effected differently so i guess it depends. But i think by discussing these with someone in a similar boat we can learn ot understand better and maybe even then improve on them issues together too. I know thats often easier said than done but its worth a try i think.
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  • sillymunchsillymunch
    edited September 2011
    i agree :) hence the reason i brought it up to you, i know how im affected by aspergers, but i always like to here alot of point of views from people in the same boat, im not sure how to check PMs, so ill send you mine and you can add me anytime lol
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  • Lambert180Lambert180
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:
    i agree :) hence the reason i brought it up to you, i know how im affected by aspergers, but i always like to here alot of point of views from people in the same boat, im not sure how to check PMs, so ill send you mine and you can add me anytime lol
    Posted by sillymunch
    Just click on 'My Profile' a couple across from 'My Account' near the top on any page of the Sky Poker website. Then on your profile it says Inbox (0) or whatever the case may be for the number of unread messages you have, just click on Inbox.
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  • sillymunchsillymunch
    edited September 2011
    thanks :)
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  • The_Don90The_Don90
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:
    i agree :) hence the reason i brought it up to you, i know how im affected by aspergers, but i always like to here alot of point of views from people in the same boat, im not sure how to check PMs, so ill send you mine and you can add me anytime lol
    Posted by sillymunch
    ive added you.
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  • MP33MP33
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary : cant drink the stuff, im just hoping theyve imported soe scottish lager, failing that american
    Posted by The_Don90

    I never liked it either until I went to Dublin and after first couple of days thats all I was drinking

    GL over there _ are you gonna update your progress on here?
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  • MP33MP33
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:
    i think you both should be playing nl30 with your games, to be fair i hope you stay down there!
    Posted by pod1
    I can see your point especialy after your next post, but I personaly am not rolled for it

    also having a few problems motivating nyself for the long sessions - Just won a buy-in at Nl10 after 30 minutes 3 tabling and am bored, which isn,t like me . Having said that , theres not much action going on. Not even 3 full tables

    Included my £30 cfp into my BR which now stands at  £306.83
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  • MP33MP33
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary : I can see your point especialy after your next post, but I personaly am not rolled for it also having a few problems motivating nyself for the long sessions - Just won a buy-in at Nl10 after 30 minutes 3 tabling and am bored, which isn,t like me . Having said that , theres not much action going on. Not even 3 full tables Included my £30 cfp into my BR which now stands at  £306.83
    Posted by MP33
    Got motivated again although didn,t get on till after 3am and playing NL10 and NL8 3 tabling i was about 3-4 buy ins down early on after sum bad variance . Then started tilting and i was 5 buy ins down and fed up although i was also playing 2 tables at NL20 as Pod had suggested where i was doing ok - Up about £20 between the 2 tables, but as they tightened up and it got to 8.30 there didnt seem any value so i played my last orbit and got these 2 beautys to finish in profit

    1st hand - I,m already 5 buy ins down on NL10 and if i lose this £30 + then its really not a good nigh but I liked the flop and liked what followed even better with the pot odds I was now getting

    2nd hand in the same orbit just as i was finishing
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    zinobino04 Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £11.78
    bustout44 Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £18.95
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • Q
    		     
    TT2001 Raise  £0.60 £0.90 £29.25
    painy12 Raise  £1.40 £2.30 £33.35
    snapper725 Fold     
    MP33 Call  £1.40 £3.70 £34.28
    zinobino04 Call  £1.30 £5.00 £10.48
    bustout44 Call  £1.20 £6.20 £17.75
    TT2001 Call  £0.80 £7.00 £28.45
    Flop
       
    • 5
    • A
    • 10
    		     
    zinobino04 Check     
    bustout44 Check     
    TT2001 Check     
    painy12 Bet  £2.60 £9.60 £30.75
    MP33 Call  £2.60 £12.20 £31.68
    zinobino04 Call  £2.60 £14.80 £7.88
    bustout44 Fold     
    TT2001 All-in  £28.45 £43.25 £0.00
    painy12 All-in  £30.75 £74.00 £0.00
    MP33 Call  £30.75 £104.75 £0.93
    zinobino04 All-in  £7.88 £112.63 £0.00
    zinobino04 Show
    • J
    • K
    		   
    TT2001 Show
    • 8
    • 10
    		   
    painy12 Show
    • A
    • A
    		   
    MP33 Show
    • K
    • Q
    		   
    Turn
       
    • 6
    		     
    River
       
    • J
    		     
    MP33 Win Flush to the Ace £110.83  £111.76
    Variance prevails at last
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    bustout44 Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £12.15
    TT2001 Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £19.80
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • 10
    		     
    loki1 Fold     
    snapper725 Fold     
    MP33 Raise  £0.60 £0.90 £109.81
    lucky42 Call  £0.60 £1.50 £13.28
    bustout44 Fold     
    TT2001 Call  £0.40 £1.90 £19.40
    Flop
       
    • 9
    • 7
    • Q
    		     
    TT2001 Check     
    MP33 Bet  £0.95 £2.85 £108.86
    lucky42 Call  £0.95 £3.80 £12.33
    TT2001 Call  £0.95 £4.75 £18.45
    Turn
       
    • Q
    		     
    TT2001 Check     
    MP33 Bet  £2.38 £7.13 £106.48
    lucky42 Fold     
    TT2001 Call  £2.38 £9.51 £16.07
    River
       
    • J
    		     
    TT2001 Bet  £4.00 £13.51 £12.07
    MP33 Raise  £8.00 £21.51 £98.48
    TT2001 All-in  £12.07 £33.58 £0.00
    MP33 Call  £8.07 £41.65 £90.41
    TT2001 Show
    • K
    • 5
    		   
    MP33 Show
    • A
    • 10
    		   
    MP33 Win Flush to the Ace £39.85  £130.26





    Played in the Whites Freeroll although missed the first 50 mins and got £8.50 from that as well   BR £150   BR 377.21
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