taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary

The_Don90 · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

Although i mainly browse through this thread, i have to echo a couple of points. I first moved up to NL8 probably as far back as 3 months ago with a roll of $160. I did well at first but then the dreaded variance hit and i had to drop back to NL4. I then got to $160 again and had another shot which failed miserably after just one short sharp horrific session. Took me a while to get over it but i decided to grind up to $200 before stepping up again. This seemed to work well as i was'nt afraid of the variance this time and its gone quite well and now nearly at $250 which is my next step to NL10. I find working at 25 buy ins is better than 20 buy ins, but thats just personal opinion. Its worked for me so i believe its the correct way, especially if multi tabling. Rancid, i have bumped in to you a couple of times on the tables, just be patient and it will happen. Don, good man, keep it up One other tip for NL8, when you get 100xbb all in against another big stack with KK vs QQ, they usually bink the Q on the river. Also happens with AA vs KK, King always arrives at some point, and as for full houses, just fold em, it saves you from tilt! Just a beginners guide as this seems to happen at NL8 alot! :-D
Posted by DrSharp

Ive taken a couple of bad beats at NL8 but tbh most of the buy ins ive lost have been my own stupid doing for over complicating things or from basic errors. These where the reasons i started at the bottom again and at cash. I know im acapable mtt player and id more than happily grind out 25-50 tournys a day, But doing so wouldnt improve me as ive done all that before.

Ive noticed a massive differance in my game of late not just at cash but in tournaments aswell. I very rarley go in behind now. That was something that used to be all to common. Does that mean im playing well or im on a heater, time will tell. But i really believe ive changed my learning curve over the last 6-8 weeks.

Dudeskin i really want to catch you tbh, but i also know ur a BR nit and therefore unless i become a BR nit i have a major advatage over you. In fairness i want to remember how withdrawing feels so i may take an extra little while at NL10.

The_Don90 · October 2011

14th Oct

All day and 15th Oct morning review

Mixed and wierd results today. I started with a UKOPs sat again 4 seats into super sat then 5th place cash. 5 people where left when i got invited to a live game and tbh, i was happy with the cash so i donked off and took my £7 happily. Now i know what people will say to this, when i registered i had full intentions of wanting the seat. Until there was 8 left this was my full intention but the offer i couldnt refuse. The live game was a typical live game.

Anyways i came home and done a small grind. Nl8. I must have been around the £230 mark at one point but was feeling good and didnt want to end. A few wierd hands later i was on tilt so quit. Anyways

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
bahh	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£7.88
The_Don90	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£7.97
	Your hole cards	K K
CATCH-22	Fold
Batkin88	Raise		£0.32	£0.44	£7.64
trojan57	Call		£0.32	£0.76	£8.15
bahh	Fold
The_Don90	Raise		£1.20	£1.96	£6.77
Batkin88	Fold
trojan57	Call		£0.96	£2.92	£7.19
Flop
		Q 5 3
The_Don90	Bet		£2.19	£5.11	£4.58
trojan57	All-in		£7.19	£12.30	£0.00
The_Don90	All-in		£4.58	£16.88	£0.00
trojan57	Unmatched bet		£0.42	£16.46	£0.42
The_Don90	Show	K K
trojan57	Show	A Q
Turn
		J
River
		7
The_Don90	Win	Pair of Kings	£15.22		£15.22

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
The_Don90	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£9.62
Shrubadubz	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£3.04
hotty69	Big blind		£0.08	£0.20	£0.96
	Your hole cards	8 8
bahh	Fold
Angelray	Fold
hotty69	Check
Batkin88	Fold
The_Don90	Call		£0.04	£0.24	£9.58
Shrubadubz	Raise		£0.16	£0.40	£2.88
hotty69	Call		£0.16	£0.56	£0.80
The_Don90	Call		£0.16	£0.72	£9.42
Flop
		9 10 8
The_Don90	Bet		£0.54	£1.26	£8.88
Shrubadubz	Call		£0.54	£1.80	£2.34
hotty69	Call		£0.54	£2.34	£0.26
Turn
		10
The_Don90	Bet		£1.76	£4.10	£7.12
Shrubadubz	Call		£1.76	£5.86	£0.58
hotty69	All-in		£0.26	£6.12	£0.00
River
		J
The_Don90	Bet		£4.59	£10.71	£2.53
Shrubadubz	All-in		£0.58	£11.29	£0.00
The_Don90	Unmatched bet		£4.01	£7.28	£6.54
The_Don90	Show	8 8
Shrubadubz	Show	A 9
hotty69	Show	10 4
The_Don90	Win	Full House, 8s and 10s	£6.73		£13.27

This hand was a real killer. At the time id lost a few average sized pots and the lead up to this. I played on for a little longer but felt best to end

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Batkin88	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£9.53
The_Don90	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£19.04
	Your hole cards	K A
rag52	Call		£0.08	£0.20	£3.54
bahh	Fold
Batkin88	Raise		£0.36	£0.56	£9.17
The_Don90	Raise		£1.60	£2.16	£17.44
rag52	Fold
Batkin88	Call		£1.28	£3.44	£7.89
Flop
		A 4 3
Batkin88	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£2.58	£6.02	£14.86
Batkin88	All-in		£7.89	£13.91	£0.00
The_Don90	Call		£5.31	£19.22	£9.55
Batkin88	Show	6 5
The_Don90	Show	K A
Turn
		K
River
		7
Batkin88	Win	Straight to the 7	£17.82		£17.82

Closing Balance: £208.10

Little disappointed as i know i was at least 2 buy ins at one point. Which means i was hovering around £220. Now i know that doesnt sound major but that would mean i was just 1 Buy in away from NL10. Anyways still £2 up for session so not all bad. After all they say 10BB per hour and im 25BB up after 2 hours so still above expected.

Dudeskin8 · October 2011

And to lose to Batty too, so sick lol

Good overall though mate.

On the BR nit thing, I only stick to 5% rule so not crazy nittiness, any higher than that I'd say was just being wreckless imo.

pod1 · October 2011

thats 2 words that shouldnt be put together, dudeskin and (w)reckless! :-)

NColley · October 2011

Not suprised if you titled after that last hand.. pretty horrendous stuff from batkin. Each to their own I guess but 56o from the small blind, probably wanted to get into your topic. Did you take it well at the time? I think I'd be on the punchbag for a bit.

The_Don90 · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

Not suprised if you titled after that last hand.. pretty horrendous stuff from batkin. Each to their own I guess but 56o from the small blind, probably wanted to get into your topic. Did you take it well at the time? I think I'd be on the punchbag for a bit.
Posted by NColley

i took it quite well for a lone hand. Much better than i used to. It was a string of hands that got to me. This was the only loss of over £3 but i know there was a few of around £2.50 quite simialr v shortys. I have alot of banter with batkin tbh, and i think that helps.

The_Don90 · October 2011

15th Oct

Afternoon session

Before i say anything or post, i havent slept. Ive cut session short as mistakes where creeping thoo.

His line here didnt mke sense and he was very active. I played it badly, and got lucky.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
aces4m	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£0.82
necrochimp	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£13.68
notme389	Big blind		£0.08	£0.20	£7.92
	Your hole cards	6 6
notme389	Check
elliam4401	Fold
The_Don90	Call		£0.08	£0.28	£10.06
darryl1976	Raise		£0.40	£0.68	£4.94
aces4m	Fold
necrochimp	Fold
notme389	Call		£0.32	£1.00	£7.60
The_Don90	Call		£0.32	£1.32	£9.74
Flop
		Q 8 7
notme389	Check
The_Don90	Check
darryl1976	Check
Turn
		Q
notme389	Check
The_Don90	Check
darryl1976	Bet		£0.66	£1.98	£4.28
notme389	Fold
The_Don90	Call		£0.66	£2.64	£9.08
River
		K
The_Don90	Check
darryl1976	Bet		£2.64	£5.28	£1.64
The_Don90	Call		£2.64	£7.92	£6.44
darryl1976	Show	10 J
The_Don90	Show	6 6
The_Don90	Win	Two Pairs, Queens and 6s	£7.32		£13.76

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
The_Don90	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£13.79
darryl1976	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£9.06
	Your hole cards	J A
aces4m	Fold
necrochimp	Fold
dgw69	Fold
elliam4401	Call		£0.08	£0.20	£27.15
The_Don90	Raise		£0.28	£0.48	£13.51
darryl1976	Fold
elliam4401	Call		£0.24	£0.72	£26.91
Flop
		3 A K
The_Don90	Bet		£0.54	£1.26	£12.97
elliam4401	Call		£0.54	£1.80	£26.37
Turn
		Q
The_Don90	Bet		£1.35	£3.15	£11.62
elliam4401	Call		£1.35	£4.50	£25.02
River
		7
The_Don90	Bet		£3.38	£7.88	£8.24
elliam4401	Call		£3.38	£11.26	£21.64
The_Don90	Show	J A
elliam4401	Muck	8 A
The_Don90	Win	Pair of Aces	£10.41		£18.65

only losing hand is in clinic wont re-post

Closing Balance: £209.46

I think tiredness played a major part in this session. Again however the differance was a £20 pot with big hand into big hand. Still rekon i played it wrong hense its in clinic. Again if i win im moving on up. But still we have time for that, and lets face it the fun hasnt ended yet.

Good night all.

The_Don90 · October 2011

15th Oct

Night session

Took a beating as is standard for saturday night sessions for me. Made one very bad call at one point, will post it although slightly embarrased.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
joshzak12	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£5.06
Batkin88	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£7.92
	Your hole cards	J K
er425	Call		£0.08	£0.20	£2.96
fish4pair	Fold
The_Don90	Raise		£0.32	£0.52	£10.52
chippy67	Call		£0.32	£0.84	£7.93
joshzak12	Call		£0.28	£1.12	£4.78
Batkin88	Fold
er425	Call		£0.24	£1.36	£2.72
Flop
		5 K 2
joshzak12	Check
er425	All-in		£2.72	£4.08	£0.00
The_Don90	Raise		£7.82	£11.90	£2.70
chippy67	Fold
joshzak12	Fold
The_Don90	Unmatched bet		£5.10	£6.80	£7.80
er425	Show	K A
The_Don90	Show	J K
Turn
		J
River
		5
The_Don90	Win	Two Pairs, Kings and Jacks	£6.29		£14.09

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
nessa779	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£7.92
svenstr8s	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£4.90
	Your hole cards	Q A
The_Don90	Raise		£0.32	£0.44	£7.68
Atheling	Fold
Batkin88	Fold
nessa779	Call		£0.28	£0.72	£7.64
svenstr8s	Call		£0.24	£0.96	£4.66
Flop
		Q A A
nessa779	Check
svenstr8s	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.48	£1.44	£7.20
nessa779	Fold
svenstr8s	Call		£0.48	£1.92	£4.18
Turn
		J
svenstr8s	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.96	£2.88	£6.24
svenstr8s	Call		£0.96	£3.84	£3.22
River
		4
svenstr8s	Check
The_Don90	All-in		£6.24	£10.08	£0.00
svenstr8s	All-in		£3.22	£13.30	£0.00
The_Don90	Unmatched bet		£3.02	£10.28	£3.02
svenstr8s	Show	Q J
The_Don90	Show	Q A
The_Don90	Win	Full House, Aces and Queens	£9.50		£12.52

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
bankster1	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£3.50
WILLIAMIII	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£3.80
	Your hole cards	3 3
zac333	Fold
Sunshine87	Fold
The_Don90	Call		£0.08	£0.20	£7.82
Batkin88	Fold
bankster1	Raise		£0.36	£0.56	£3.14
WILLIAMIII	Fold
The_Don90	Call		£0.32	£0.88	£7.50
Flop
		J 3 A
bankster1	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.66	£1.54	£6.84
bankster1	Call		£0.66	£2.20	£2.48
Turn
		5
bankster1	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£1.65	£3.85	£5.19
bankster1	Call		£1.65	£5.50	£0.83
River
		6
bankster1	All-in		£0.83	£6.33	£0.00
The_Don90	Call		£0.83	£7.16	£4.36
bankster1	Show	4 A
The_Don90	Show	3 3
The_Don90	Win	Three 3s	£6.62		£10.98

This is just a ffs moment

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Sunshine87	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£10.67
The_Don90	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£10.74
	Your hole cards	A K
Castiel02	Fold
bankster1	Raise		£0.40	£0.52	£5.14
WILLIAMIII	Fold
zac333	Fold
Sunshine87	Fold
The_Don90	Raise		£1.60	£2.12	£9.14
bankster1	All-in		£5.14	£7.26	£0.00
The_Don90	Call		£3.86	£11.12	£5.28
The_Don90	Show	A K
bankster1	Show	A 2
Flop
		2 8 8
Turn
		6
River
		Q
bankster1	Win	Two Pairs, 8s and 2s	£10.28		£10.28

Horrible and stupid from me. Very embarrased.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
joshzak12	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£8.60
svenstr8s	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£7.84
	Your hole cards	A 4
tubby28	Raise		£0.16	£0.28	£7.34
The_Don90	Call		£0.16	£0.44	£17.48
er425	Call		£0.16	£0.60	£5.76
joshzak12	Call		£0.12	£0.72	£8.48
svenstr8s	Call		£0.08	£0.80	£7.76
Flop
		7 10 5
joshzak12	All-in		£8.48	£9.28	£0.00
svenstr8s	Fold
tubby28	Fold
The_Don90	Call		£8.48	£17.76	£9.00
er425	Fold
joshzak12	Show	A 5
The_Don90	Show	A 4
Turn
		7
River
		3
joshzak12	Win	Two Pairs, 7s and 5s	£16.42		£16.42

Should be able to fold this but FML

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
bankster1	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£9.80
The_Don90	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£7.92
zac333	Sit out
	Your hole cards	8 9
Sunshine87	Fold
Castiel02	Fold
bankster1	Call		£0.04	£0.16	£9.76
The_Don90	Check
Flop
		10 3 J
bankster1	Bet		£0.08	£0.24	£9.68
The_Don90	Call		£0.08	£0.32	£7.84
Turn
		10
bankster1	Bet		£0.08	£0.40	£9.60
The_Don90	Call		£0.08	£0.48	£7.76
River
		Q
bankster1	Bet		£0.36	£0.84	£9.24
The_Don90	Raise		£1.56	£2.40	£6.20
bankster1	All-in		£9.24	£11.64	£0.00
The_Don90	All-in		£6.20	£17.84	£0.00
bankster1	Unmatched bet		£1.84	£16.00	£1.84
bankster1	Show	A K
The_Don90	Show	8 9
bankster1	Win	Straight to the Ace	£14.80		£16.64

Closing Balance: £194.82

I dont know why i can win on a daily basis but every saturday night i get my rear handed to me. I know i didnt play particularly well tonight but still looking at the hands, i made 1 mistake, one i probably could have got away from. thats the differance to £16 alone, fold them and im in profit, then the A2 doesnt happen im a buy in up. Ewww. Really.

The_Don90 · October 2011

post last post: looking back at hands i realised how good value is. There 2 tables going and those fish are still out (the ones im lableing as value anyways). Therefore i know on one table i have to sit with £15 but i dont believe that kind of value can be walked away from. If i lose lose but really i think its a risk worth taking.

bandini · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

post last post: looking back at hands i realised how good value is. There 2 tables going and those fish are still out (the ones im lableing as value anyways). Therefore i know on one table i have to sit with £15 but i dont believe that kind of value can be walked away from. If i lose lose but really i think its a risk worth taking.
Posted by The_Don90

Don, Accept the losses!!!!!!!

You'll eventually win mate, you really will. What's your ROI in this diary?? Be proud.

I've plaeyd it all up to NL30 and you're better than most at them! Seriously, they're insane. You're a million times better. Patience my friend, patiernce. You WILL beat every limit up to 25/50 before it takes thinking! It'll take patience but you're capable Don. Just be patient, that's all it will take. You're a million miles above mate. ffs don't give up bcos of bad beats. That's alright for fools like me, you're better. You're fit for working your way through the levels Don. You really are.

The_Don90 · October 2011

In reponce to Bandini i meant i was going back as i felt the value was there.

15th Oct

Night session part 2

Looking over the HH of the last session i wasnt happy with 2 things, A) standing with that much value around.

playing like a complete ape.

Anyways i sat back down and yes it was turblent but ive managed to recover some losses. Again however i made a few daft calls.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
er425	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£3.94
The_Don90	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£16.68
	Your hole cards	A A
stevewha09	Fold
chippykyc	Call		£0.08	£0.20	£10.26
nessa779	Call		£0.08	£0.28	£4.99
er425	Call		£0.04	£0.32	£3.90
The_Don90	Raise		£0.48	£0.80	£16.20
chippykyc	Call		£0.48	£1.28	£9.78
nessa779	Call		£0.48	£1.76	£4.51
er425	Fold
Flop
		8 2 6
The_Don90	Bet		£1.32	£3.08	£14.88
chippykyc	Fold
nessa779	Call		£1.32	£4.40	£3.19
Turn
		3
The_Don90	Bet		£3.30	£7.70	£11.58
nessa779	All-in		£3.19	£10.89	£0.00
The_Don90	Unmatched bet		£0.11	£10.78	£11.69
The_Don90	Show	A A
nessa779	Show	5 3
River
		J
The_Don90	Win	Pair of Aces	£9.97		£21.66

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
shark11	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£13.35
ayauasca_a	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£8.60
	Your hole cards	A J
slim55	Fold
bankster1	Raise		£0.40	£0.52	£31.87
The_Don90	Call		£0.40	£0.92	£7.60
shark11	Fold
ayauasca_a	Call		£0.32	£1.24	£8.28
Flop
		2 J 9
ayauasca_a	Check
bankster1	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.93	£2.17	£6.67
ayauasca_a	Call		£0.93	£3.10	£7.35
bankster1	Fold
Turn
		5
ayauasca_a	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£2.33	£5.43	£4.34
ayauasca_a	All-in		£7.35	£12.78	£0.00
The_Don90	All-in		£4.34	£17.12	£0.00
ayauasca_a	Unmatched bet		£0.68	£16.44	£0.68
ayauasca_a	Show	Q A
The_Don90	Show	A J
River
		7
The_Don90	Win	Pair of Jacks	£15.20		£15.20

This hand, the flop completely confused me, tbh i was folding a 9 high flop. Because of the flop confusion i called turn and hit miricle river.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
ayauasca_a	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£11.14
crazynails	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£1.72
	Your hole cards	10 10
slim55	Call		£0.08	£0.20	£1.48
bankster1	Call		£0.08	£0.28	£41.25
The_Don90	Raise		£0.40	£0.68	£13.96
shark11	Call		£0.40	£1.08	£3.75
ayauasca_a	Raise		£1.64	£2.72	£9.50
crazynails	Fold
slim55	Fold
bankster1	Fold
The_Don90	Call		£1.28	£4.00	£12.68
shark11	Fold
Flop
		8 2 2
ayauasca_a	Check
The_Don90	Check
Turn
		4
ayauasca_a	Bet		£2.00	£6.00	£7.50
The_Don90	Call		£2.00	£8.00	£10.68
River
		10
ayauasca_a	Bet		£4.00	£12.00	£3.50
The_Don90	All-in		£10.68	£22.68	£0.00
ayauasca_a	All-in		£3.50	£26.18	£0.00
The_Don90	Unmatched bet		£3.18	£23.00	£3.18
ayauasca_a	Show	Q Q
The_Don90	Show	10 10
The_Don90	Win	Full House, 10s and 2s	£21.60		£24.78

Again here im not sure on this hand. Villian was all over the place and tbh, every time i managed to get in ahead he binked, so i guess this is what spite does to you.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
The_Don90	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£9.13
shark11	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£11.97
	Your hole cards	J J
ayauasca_a	Fold
slim55	Call		£0.08	£0.20	£2.18
bankster1	Call		£0.08	£0.28	£23.94
The_Don90	Raise		£0.36	£0.64	£8.77
shark11	Call		£0.32	£0.96	£11.65
slim55	Call		£0.32	£1.28	£1.86
bankster1	Call		£0.32	£1.60	£23.62
Flop
		6 7 3
The_Don90	Bet		£1.20	£2.80	£7.57
shark11	Fold
slim55	Fold
bankster1	Call		£1.20	£4.00	£22.42
Turn
		K
The_Don90	Bet		£2.00	£6.00	£5.57
bankster1	Call		£2.00	£8.00	£20.42
River
		8
The_Don90	Check
bankster1	All-in		£20.42	£28.42	£0.00
The_Don90	All-in		£5.57	£33.99	£0.00
bankster1	Unmatched bet		£14.85	£19.14	£14.85
The_Don90	Show	J J
bankster1	Show	4 K
bankster1	Win	Pair of Kings	£17.74		£32.59

Im a right homer simpson here. How easy do i need a fold to be.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
er425	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£4.45
The_Don90	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£28.37
	Your hole cards	10 J
SAM159	Call		£0.08	£0.20	£5.89
nessa779	Call		£0.08	£0.28	£4.45
ashers	Call		£0.08	£0.36	£1.22
er425	Call		£0.04	£0.40	£4.41
The_Don90	Check
Flop
		7 J 2
er425	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.30	£0.70	£28.07
SAM159	Call		£0.30	£1.00	£5.59
nessa779	Fold
ashers	Fold
er425	Fold
Turn
		6
The_Don90	Bet		£0.75	£1.75	£27.32
SAM159	Raise		£2.00	£3.75	£3.59
The_Don90	Call		£1.25	£5.00	£26.07
River
		8
The_Don90	Check
SAM159	All-in		£3.59	£8.59	£0.00
The_Don90	Call		£3.59	£12.18	£22.48
The_Don90	Show	10 J
SAM159	Show	K K
SAM159	Win	Pair of Kings	£11.26		£11.26

Closing Balance: £201.41

Recovered losses well and learnt something in doing so. Dont leave the table when theres a fish around. Im leaving now as i need to go to asda and the guy who i felt had most value took his 500BB and ran. I was just sitting waiting for a spot but it wasnt fothcomming.

Dudeskin8 · October 2011

Yh that A4s hand is insane, you know that so don't bloody do it again !

JJ, nasty turn, you have to bet it and tbh kinda sick he hits top pair there, tough when he sets you in probably 50-50 for call.

J10 at the end looks like spew to me, turn I don't think you beat ANYTHING, river again gotta fold.

Overall though this level is pure value town, just about dodging beats and not tilting yourself.

The_Don90 · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

Yh that A4s hand is insane, you know that so don't bloody do it again ! JJ, nasty turn, you have to bet it and tbh kinda sick he hits top pair there, tough when he sets you in probably 50-50 for call. J10 at the end looks like spew to me, turn I don't think you beat ANYTHING, river again gotta fold. Overall though this level is pure value town, just about dodging beats and not tilting yourself.
Posted by Dudeskin8

yea i know ur right mate. im really not happy with how i played in honesty. Although i think i know the issue that caused it. I had a tourny running on stars which plays completely differently from all sort of sane poker, i think that really effected my game. Should slap myself for that.

However i think i showed caracter last night by willing to go through a full set of Hand Historys realise theres value and that im also playing bad. Yes i still didnt play close to well but i did play far better than what i had done throughout the previous 2 hours and i managed to recover.

The Jacks v K4 hand, im really bamboozled by that hand. Also the TT hand which you didnt mention im guessing thats a good thing.

I think by doing things a little differently ive developed as a player. I know thats came at a cost of a buy in, but i really proved alot to myself last night. I think thats worth 100 buy ins. And long term i think if i can keep learning i might actually cut out the stupid daft mistakes.

grantorino · October 2011

A4 hand fold flop, pre is fine imo

JJ shove river

JT is an easy fold on turn, I'm not sure I lead flop 5way

The_Don90 · October 2011

16th Oct

Lone session

I was trying to stay up longer but ive been up since 10.30 last night and tbh its really kicked in. Id found a second wind which got me through most of the afternoon but im past it now. Anyways this wa a phenomial day. After my disappointment of last night i done my usual sunday. 2 primo sats. Never got anywhere. To add to the mix i noticed a £300 overlay on a UKOPs sat. Bingo into that for £4. Gave myself a goodd chance at that to bu6y one river later i was crippled no biggie. Saving my run down for cash, £10 is only one buy in right.

Anyways too many hands to post, so im posting highest value only.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
PIEMAN180	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£6.68
The_Don90	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£8.46
oswaldfich	Big blind		£0.08	£0.20	£7.92
Daniel-son	Big blind		£0.08	£0.28	£8.25
	Your hole cards	5 5
oswaldfich	Check
rancid	Call		£0.08	£0.36	£9.27
Daniel-son	Check
sisat1973	Raise		£0.32	£0.68	£11.48
PIEMAN180	Fold
The_Don90	Call		£0.24	£0.92	£8.22
oswaldfich	Call		£0.24	£1.16	£7.68
rancid	Call		£0.24	£1.40	£9.03
Daniel-son	Fold
Flop
		A 4 5
The_Don90	Bet		£1.08	£2.48	£7.14
oswaldfich	Call		£1.08	£3.56	£6.60
rancid	Fold
sisat1973	Call		£1.08	£4.64	£10.40
Turn
		7
The_Don90	Bet		£3.51	£8.15	£3.63
oswaldfich	Call		£3.51	£11.66	£3.09
sisat1973	All-in		£10.40	£22.06	£0.00
The_Don90	All-in		£3.63	£25.69	£0.00
oswaldfich	Fold
sisat1973	Unmatched bet		£3.26	£22.43	£3.26
The_Don90	Show	5 5
sisat1973	Show	Q A
River
		2
The_Don90	Win	Three 5s	£21.07		£21.07

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
cusse10	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£10.51
ktc2	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£3.12
	Your hole cards	K K
The_Don90	Raise		£0.32	£0.44	£7.66
Geosarge	Fold
adhawkins	Fold
cusse10	Call		£0.28	£0.72	£10.23
ktc2	Fold
Flop
		K A 10
cusse10	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.54	£1.26	£7.12
cusse10	Raise		£1.08	£2.34	£9.15
The_Don90	Raise		£1.98	£4.32	£5.14
cusse10	All-in		£9.15	£13.47	£0.00
The_Don90	All-in		£5.14	£18.61	£0.00
cusse10	Unmatched bet		£2.57	£16.04	£2.57
cusse10	Show	K 10
The_Don90	Show	K K
Turn
		A
River
		J
The_Don90	Win	Full House, Kings and Aces	£14.83		£14.83

not happy with this one tbh.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
adhawkins	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£9.49
tankspice1	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£5.19
	Your hole cards	A Q
daklan	Call		£0.08	£0.20	£5.06
duonross	Call		£0.08	£0.28	£16.71
The_Don90	Raise		£0.40	£0.68	£16.82
Geosarge	Raise		£1.36	£2.04	£13.79
adhawkins	Fold
tankspice1	Fold
daklan	Fold
duonross	Fold
The_Don90	Call		£0.96	£3.00	£15.86
Flop
		Q 8 6
The_Don90	Check
Geosarge	Bet		£1.50	£4.50	£12.29
The_Don90	Call		£1.50	£6.00	£14.36
Turn
		6
The_Don90	Check
Geosarge	Check
River
		7
The_Don90	Check
Geosarge	Bet		£3.00	£9.00	£9.29
The_Don90	Call		£3.00	£12.00	£11.36
Geosarge	Show	J J
The_Don90	Show	A Q
The_Don90	Win	Two Pairs, Queens and 6s	£11.10		£22.46

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
SCOUT49	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£2.65
pokertiger	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£1.40
	Your hole cards	A A
The_Don90	Raise		£0.32	£0.44	£13.80
necrochimp	Fold
svenstr8s	Call		£0.32	£0.76	£6.86
SCOUT49	Fold
pokertiger	Call		£0.24	£1.00	£1.16
Flop
		6 10 7
pokertiger	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.75	£1.75	£13.05
svenstr8s	Call		£0.75	£2.50	£6.11
pokertiger	Call		£0.75	£3.25	£0.41
Turn
		4
pokertiger	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£2.44	£5.69	£10.61
svenstr8s	Call		£2.44	£8.13	£3.67
pokertiger	All-in		£0.41	£8.54	£0.00
River
		10
The_Don90	Bet		£4.27	£12.81	£6.34
svenstr8s	All-in		£3.67	£16.48	£0.00
The_Don90	Unmatched bet		£0.60	£15.88	£6.94
pokertiger	Show	J 9
The_Don90	Show	A A
svenstr8s	Show	A 8
svenstr8s	Win	Flush to the Ace	£14.68		£14.68

Closing Balance: £226.53

So close. Knew i would be close when i finnished but i was too tired to try and push. plus i felt that would lead to mistakes. Anyways Back to NL8 after a snooze and then the following session will hopefully be NL10. Also to note of how much im increasing grind. Ive already broke the most ive ever had for a months C4P with still half the month to go.

Poker_Fail · October 2011

Grats on almost making it to NL10, Keep it going

stien · October 2011

Don when I have played at this level (ok I don't take it too serious I know but) I have found that getting callers isn't a problem, the number of callers is the issue. IMO at this level your 4x raise size is too small, with 2 limpers you only 5x it, as a minimum its got to be 4x plus one for each limper but I would suggest you try 6x plus one for each limper and see how you go. I've have got plenty of callers with 10x and more.

A bigger pre flop raise = a bigger pot pre, your raising pre because you believe you have a strong hand now so get more money in the pot now. A bigger pre flop pot means your flop/turn bets can be bigger so you can get all the money in quicker post flop if you decide to, exactly what you want to do when your raising pre with the strongest part of your range.

On the flop with a strong made hand you bet 3/4 pot, I would just pot it as a minimum, try over pot betting it too, if they are calling charge them while you believe you have the best hand. Looking at the last AA hand you only have 40% equity v 92ss and QTo for example, if 92ss was 56ss you have only 34% equity on the flop v 2 villains, sure you're very likely ahead now but charging them 3/4 pot is just too cheap. I would also pot/jam the turn, by raising more pre and potting the flop its easier to get your stack in on the turn. I just don't believe these guys care what the bet size is, if they are calling they are calling so charge them as much as they will pay.

Finally when you get 3 or 4 bet and you have AK why take a race when their range is QQ+ and AK has only 38% equity v this range. You play at this level so feel free to tell me i'm wrong but racing as a dog at this level makes no sense to me. Sure higher up we need to get it in pre with AK and worse but at nl8 how many are able to exploit you on the few occasions you raise with AK and fold to an obvious RR thats QQ+ all day long.

The_Don90 · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

Don when I have played at this level (ok I don't take it too serious I know but) I have found that getting callers isn't a problem, the number of callers is the issue. IMO at this level your 4x raise size is too small, with 2 limpers you only 5x it, as a minimum its got to be 4x plus one for each limper but I would suggest you try 6x plus one for each limper and see how you go. I've have got plenty of callers with 10x and more. A bigger pre flop raise = a bigger pot pre, your raising pre because you believe you have a strong hand now so get more money in the pot now. A bigger pre flop pot means your flop/turn bets can be bigger so you can get all the money in quicker post flop if you decide to, exactly what you want to do when your raising pre with the strongest part of your range. On the flop with a strong made hand you bet 3/4 pot, I would just pot it as a minimum, try over pot betting it too, if they are calling charge them while you believe you have the best hand. Looking at the last AA hand you only have 40% equity v 92ss and QTo for example, if 92ss was 56ss you have only 34% equity on the flop v 2 villains, sure you're very likely ahead now but charging them 3/4 pot is just too cheap. I would also pot/jam the turn, by raising more pre and potting the flop its easier to get your stack in on the turn. I just don't believe these guys care what the bet size is, if they are calling they are calling so charge them as much as they will pay. Finally when you get 3 or 4 bet and you have AK why take a race when their range is QQ+ and AK has only 38% equity v this range. You play at this level so feel free to tell me i'm wrong but racing as a dog at this level makes no sense to me. Sure higher up we need to get it in pre with AK and worse but at nl8 how many are able to exploit you on the few occasions you raise with AK and fold to an obvious RR thats QQ+ all day long.
Posted by stien

Stien im confused as to what hands we're discussing.

tbh im about rolled for my target for moving up, NL8 has been a rollercoaster ride, although tbh it was an mtt win losing at cash for 2/3 days then ive ebeen winning since. Bar one session where i played terrible last night. I have full respect for what your saying. Ive found at NL8 more than at NL4 you need to find how to get value from regs. Maybe because i prefer playing 4-6 tables really doesnt help you on a limit like NL8 where theres only ever 6 - 7 tables at most running. That means im bumping into the regs on a solid basis.

Ive found at NL8 unlike at NL4, a 32p raise (16p equivellent for NL4) is often enough to ghet a HU pot. Obviously i do pick up fish and last night i have had tables where i open twice and on occassions triple that amount. Tbh there was one guy who never folded pre once if he put money in the pot so i double my open, then kept adding to it till he folded pre. Now tis wasnt to see if he'd fold, this was to see how much can i get out of him pre and he was c/f 99% of flops.

ty for some good feedback although if you can direct me to the hands we're discussing i might be able to follow it a little better.

Don

The_Don90 · October 2011

17th Oct

Early morning session

Tbh this session didnt last long, due to tables dying constantly. In the end i decided to stop for now and wait for more value later. I tried NL8 was only one game running and it was full, NL4 was full of shorties so NL10 shot seemed ok. I managed to get onto 2 tables and get some imprtortant notes.

Im not sure what my Profit/loss will be on NL10 yet as really i ahvent been able to get a full assessment of what fair and what isnt. So since theres 3 winning hand above £1 ill show them and whatever losing hands.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
sillyluke	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£11.84
BIGAL90	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£0.96
	Your hole cards	A 10
Jonno02	Call		£0.10	£0.25	£10.73
Cannon223	Raise		£0.30	£0.55	£16.83
The_Don90	Call		£0.30	£0.85	£9.70
sillyluke	Fold
BIGAL90	Fold
Jonno02	Call		£0.20	£1.05	£10.53
Flop
		A 10 6
Jonno02	Check
Cannon223	Bet		£0.53	£1.58	£16.30
The_Don90	Raise		£2.11	£3.69	£7.59
Jonno02	Fold
Cannon223	Fold
The_Don90	Muck
The_Don90	Win		£1.95		£9.54
The_Don90	Return		£1.58	£0.16	£11.12

This hand below i really went to bluffing town, i felt my opponent was weak. As soon as he called i said, Im and Idiot he has AQ, when it was shown i said "im a genuis"

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Cannon223	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£16.15
The_Don90	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£11.02
bellooww	Big blind		£0.10	£0.25	£7.90
	Your hole cards	A K
sillyluke	Fold
BIGAL90	Call		£0.10	£0.35	£2.03
bellooww	Raise		£0.10	£0.45	£7.80
Jonno02	Fold
Cannon223	Call		£0.15	£0.60	£16.00
The_Don90	Raise		£0.70	£1.30	£10.32
BIGAL90	Fold
bellooww	Raise		£1.20	£2.50	£6.60
Cannon223	Fold
The_Don90	Call		£0.60	£3.10	£9.72
Flop
		2 9 3
The_Don90	Check
bellooww	Check
Turn
		Q
The_Don90	Check
bellooww	Bet		£3.10	£6.20	£3.50
The_Don90	All-in		£9.72	£15.92	£0.00
bellooww	All-in		£3.50	£19.42	£0.00
The_Don90	Unmatched bet		£3.12	£16.30	£3.12
The_Don90	Show	A K
bellooww	Show	K 8
River
		2
The_Don90	Win	Pair of 2s	£15.07		£18.19

This hand i was in two minds over. I felt i could re-raise flop but wasnt sure how that would play out at NL10 so i decided to flat and "fish" once the river lands and all the action comes however i think my re-raise is a little too strong, i think im only ever getting called by a K high flush here. Maybe a smaller raise or what do people think about a flat?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
elmakem	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£24.44
ATID	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£24.92
	Your hole cards	A Q
The_Don90	Raise		£0.30	£0.45	£9.45
devil_tear	Fold
elmakem	Call		£0.25	£0.70	£24.19
ATID	Call		£0.20	£0.90	£24.72
Flop
		9 5 2
elmakem	Bet		£0.40	£1.30	£23.79
ATID	Call		£0.40	£1.70	£24.32
The_Don90	Call		£0.40	£2.10	£9.05
Turn
		K
elmakem	Check
ATID	Check
The_Don90	Check
River
		4
elmakem	Bet		£0.10	£2.20	£23.69
ATID	Raise		£1.25	£3.45	£23.07
The_Don90	Raise		£4.78	£8.23	£4.27
elmakem	Fold
ATID	Fold
The_Don90	Muck
The_Don90	Win		£4.34		£8.61
The_Don90	Return		£3.53	£0.36	£12.14

This hand below im not putting another penny in if i dont fill on river.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
ATID	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£25.04
The_Don90	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£9.90
	Your hole cards	Q 6
pealead	Fold
elmakem	Call		£0.10	£0.25	£21.84
ATID	Call		£0.05	£0.30	£24.99
The_Don90	Check
Flop
		Q 3 3
ATID	Check
The_Don90	Check
elmakem	Check
Turn
		2
ATID	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.23	£0.53	£9.67
elmakem	Call		£0.23	£0.76	£21.61
ATID	Fold
River
		3
The_Don90	Bet		£0.57	£1.33	£9.10
elmakem	Raise		£2.80	£4.13	£18.81
The_Don90	Call		£2.23	£6.36	£6.87
elmakem	Show	5 3
The_Don90	Muck	Q 6
elmakem	Win	Four 3s	£5.88		£24.69

Closing Balance: £230.96

Small winning in a small session from NL10 although alot of hands there im not happy with. Tbh i think its going to take a week or so to properly settle into NL10 but im happy to do that. Im also happy to drop back down. Ive also stated that once i get to £300 i will withdraw £50. This is for a number of reasons which i wish to remain private, but in honesty i cant remember what its like to Withdraw. This will also allow my a little extra time at Nl10 on which i can spend developing my game. £500 the next target for moving on up. Although i may move up sooner than that. I just want to be rolled.

The_Don90 · October 2011

17th Oct

Morning session

Took a full blown battering to say the least. Tbh i think i didnt find my feet at all. I jumped off the plane and forgot how to land a paracute. I had 3 major issues. A i wasnt running brilliant. B i couldnt find value. C i dont particularly played well.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
111pete115	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£8.00
The_Don90	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£10.83
	Your hole cards	9 9
painy12	Fold
kerrim	Raise		£0.40	£0.55	£2.35
J0NSEY	Fold
111pete115	Call		£0.35	£0.90	£7.65
The_Don90	Call		£0.30	£1.20	£10.53
Flop
		4 10 5
111pete115	Check
The_Don90	Check
kerrim	Bet		£0.60	£1.80	£1.75
111pete115	Fold
The_Don90	Raise		£2.40	£4.20	£8.13
kerrim	All-in		£1.75	£5.95	£0.00
The_Don90	Unmatched bet		£0.05	£5.90	£8.18
The_Don90	Show	9 9
kerrim	Show	7 7
Turn
		4
River
		K
The_Don90	Win	Two Pairs, 9s and 4s	£5.45		£13.63

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
marcus191	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£10.30
mcbay	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£10.03
	Your hole cards	9 A
The_Don90	Raise		£0.30	£0.45	£11.44
NColley	Fold
J0NSEY	Fold
marcus191	Call		£0.25	£0.70	£10.05
mcbay	Call		£0.20	£0.90	£9.83
Flop
		7 9 8
marcus191	Check
mcbay	Bet		£0.68	£1.58	£9.15
The_Don90	Call		£0.68	£2.26	£10.76
marcus191	Fold
Turn
		4
mcbay	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£1.13	£3.39	£9.63
mcbay	Call		£1.13	£4.52	£8.02
River
		9
mcbay	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£2.26	£6.78	£7.37
mcbay	Fold
The_Don90	Muck
The_Don90	Win		£4.18		£11.55
The_Don90	Return		£2.26	£0.34	£13.81

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
M_Tutte	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£4.54
4ePeH	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£9.90
	Your hole cards	K K
The_Don90	Raise		£0.30	£0.45	£12.96
gamegenie	Fold
NColley	Fold
chimpi16	Fold
M_Tutte	Call		£0.25	£0.70	£4.29
4ePeH	Call		£0.20	£0.90	£9.70
Flop
		Q J 2
M_Tutte	Check
4ePeH	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.68	£1.58	£12.28
M_Tutte	Fold
4ePeH	Raise		£1.90	£3.48	£7.80
The_Don90	Raise		£4.75	£8.23	£7.53
4ePeH	All-in		£7.80	£16.03	£0.00
The_Don90	Call		£4.27	£20.30	£3.26
4ePeH	Show	J Q
The_Don90	Show	K K
Turn
		9
River
		3
4ePeH	Win	Two Pairs, Queens and Jacks	£18.90		£18.90

Really not happy with this hand tbh. It looks worse every time i look at it.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
NColley	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£9.85
Zeextenr	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£9.90
	Your hole cards	Q Q
J0NSEY	Fold
111pete115	Call		£0.10	£0.25	£7.81
The_Don90	Raise		£0.40	£0.65	£13.18
painy12	Fold
NColley	Raise		£1.25	£1.90	£8.60
Zeextenr	Fold
111pete115	Fold
The_Don90	Call		£0.90	£2.80	£12.28
Flop
		8 3 9
NColley	Bet		£2.10	£4.90	£6.50
The_Don90	Call		£2.10	£7.00	£10.18
Turn
		10
NColley	All-in		£6.50	£13.50	£0.00
The_Don90	Call		£6.50	£20.00	£3.68
NColley	Show	K K
The_Don90	Show	Q Q
River
		K
NColley	Win	Three Kings	£18.60		£18.60

Notes told me he has second pair here. Which makes the river even more tilting.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
4ePeH	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£18.65
GAZLEAMAC	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£32.00
	Your hole cards	8 7
allybungle	Fold
The_Don90	Raise		£0.30	£0.45	£21.54
4ePeH	Call		£0.25	£0.70	£18.40
GAZLEAMAC	Fold
Flop
		10 9 2
4ePeH	Bet		£0.53	£1.23	£17.87
The_Don90	Raise		£1.85	£3.08	£19.69
4ePeH	Call		£1.32	£4.40	£16.55
Turn
		Q
4ePeH	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£3.30	£7.70	£16.39
4ePeH	Call		£3.30	£11.00	£13.25
River
		9
4ePeH	Bet		£6.70	£17.70	£6.55
The_Don90	Fold
4ePeH	Muck
4ePeH	Win		£10.17		£16.72
4ePeH	Return		£6.70	£0.83	£23.42

Closing Balance: £205.89

DOHHHHHHH · October 2011

Welcome to the most depressing level on the site.

H8 nl10.

Thing is u gonna be here for ages too, need 400 for nl20.

U thought nl4 was tough . . . . . . . . . .

fyl.

NColley · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

Welcome to the most depressing level on the site. H8 nl10. Thing is u gonna be here for ages too, need 400 for nl20. U thought nl4 was tough . . . . . . . . . . fyl.
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

This is so true.

The_Don90 · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : This is so true.
Posted by NColley

i played those Queens so badly, enjoy the free money lol .

Dudeskin8 · October 2011

I actually really like NL10 although that's probably due to more proper limp, limp, calling station players.

That QQ hand is tricky, you can't really fold pre imo, just cooler imo.

The_Don90 · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

I actually really like NL10 although that's probably due to more proper limp, limp, calling station players. That QQ hand is tricky, you can't really fold pre imo, just cooler imo.
Posted by Dudeskin8

i cant fold pre but by the turn i only beat Jacks,

rancid · October 2011

Why is there NL8 and NL10, they play just the same

unknown_username · October 2011

************HIJACK******************

Firstly, well done Don.

Just a couple of questions to whomever feels the need to answer them from someone in a similar situation to The Don90.

I have now got just shy of $260 in my account after grinding through the levels. I am a BR nit fwiw. I wanted to move up to NL10 once i got to $250. My problem is that after having an absolutely hideous start to NL8 i found that i was at one point $50 down at NL8 (hands like running KK in to AA for example), i have now ground that back and now show a profit of $10 at that level. I dont feel i have bested that level as yet even though i feel very confident there. Just a profit of $10 doesnt sit easy with me. Should i stick around at NL8 a bit longer?

When i have played NL10 stuff, i have done really well and made good profit. Move up now?

Why have some commented on the fact that NL10 is a horrible level? Explanation please?

Thankyou.

PiAnOpLaYa · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:
************HIJACK****************** Firstly, well done Don. Just a couple of questions to whomever feels the need to answer them from someone in a similar situation to The Don90. I have now got just shy of $260 in my account after grinding through the levels. I am a BR nit fwiw. I wanted to move up to NL10 once i got to $250. My problem is that after having an absolutely hideous start to NL8 i found that i was at one point $50 down at NL8 (hands like running KK in to AA for example), i have now ground that back and now show a profit of $10 at that level. I dont feel i have bested that level as yet even though i feel very confident there. Just a profit of $10 doesnt sit easy with me. Should i stick around at NL8 a bit longer? When i have played NL10 stuff, i have done really well and made good profit. Move up now? Why have some commented on the fact that NL10 is a horrible level? Explanation please? Thankyou.
Posted by DrSharp

Horrible level because i takes so long tog et out of it.

start with £200 and need £400 to get out so thats 20buy ins. where as alot of levels you not need to win as many buy ins to level up.

FWIW i think you can play NL10 with 25 buy ins happily esp if you have been turning a profit at it all ready.

I'm hopefully will be playing tonight so there's loads of value down about 5 buyins recently at it

(think i need to stop playing any 2)

Dudeskin8 · October 2011

@ Don - he had KK here well done to the dealer but what if he has AK, wouldn't getting it in pre be better ?

@ Sharp - You don't need £260 to start playing NL10, imo £220 is more than enough maybe less. Oh and you play with POUNDS on Sky not DOLLARS ££££££££££££££££££££, sorry it's tilted me for a while now.

unknown_username · October 2011

@ pianoplaya - got it. I started with 8 quid at NL4 so i am used to being stuck at one level for ages. ;-)

@ Dudeskin - lmao, dunno where my 'pound' sign is on this damn keyboard so have resigned myself to the fact that i have to use dollars. It tilts me too but i dont know how to change it, i think the keyboard settings were set up incorrectly on this darn laptop. Sorry.

!@#$%^&()_+{}|":< />?|\`~[]\';,./+-/ See, no quid sign. Frickin annoys me!

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