taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary

Dudeskin8 · October 2011

How hard is it to search for players in find a player, I mean seriosuly it takes like 2-3 mins if that and even less once you have many REGs tagged from previous sessions, then you just try and avoid.

Again you're not listening I said for NL4/8/10, higher it changes obvz but still tbh if not for some nasty beats I'd still be there now thanks to good table selection but you can't control how the cards come out so when I get it all in with AA v KK I lose to K on river but that's fine and standard.

PiAnOpLaYa · October 2011

Going a little of topic.

6 tbling NL10 what BR would you suggest? And what would b needed for NL20 6 tbling?

Dudeskin8 · October 2011

NL10 ~£230-50.

NL20 ~£460-80. IMO

Maybe more than this but idealy playing more tables = less variance so shouldn't matter.

PiAnOpLaYa · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

NL10 ~£230-50. NL20 ~£460-80. IMO Maybe more than this but idealy playing more tables = less variance so shouldn't matter.
Posted by Dudeskin8

might aswell make it a round £500 for NL20

Only 19 buyins to go! A min cash in the UKOPS M.E would help i feel

unknown_username · October 2011

Have to agree with dudeskin. At NL4 and NL8, definitely find the easy money. Why make life difficult for yourself, yes you might still be the best player at the table even when it has 3 or 4 regs on it but i would rather play 5 idiots than 1 idiot and 4 regs. Leave the ego away from the table and get the easy money. I actively stay away from tables full of regs as although i still think i would win long term against most of them it will be quicker and easier against someone who just wants a gamble.

NL10 seems the same although it is definitely tighter but you still get the odd nutcase calling all-in on a J high board with J,4 offsuit, its just that there are less of them than at NL4 and NL8. Find em, stack em and watch the roll grow. You will encounter more regs as you move up so the standard slowly increases as you go but at the lowest levels, just play the people who like to play and gamble without really knowing the right way to play. You'll get to play the better players as you go, why rush to sit with them at NL4?

unknown_username · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

Going a little of topic. 6 tbling NL10 what BR would you suggest? And what would b needed for NL20 6 tbling?
Posted by PiAnOpLaYa

I have heard a few times that you shouldnt have more than 5% of your BR in play at one time. Its hard to stick to that, i certainly dont but i dont htink it does any harm to be a BR nit.

Dudeskin8 · October 2011

It's like when Redmon Lee was on a show once and mentioned a guy said to him 'wouldn't it be good if you had a table with 4/5 good players, yourself and maybe 2 bad ones' and even he was like yh sure lets invite Ivey along too, at least someone will respect my raises lol

For me this just shows that even the best players would rather play awful ones and not good ones as they're there to make money simple as that.

unknown_username · October 2011

Totally agree. I understand that to move up you will have to beat better players but i dont see the rush in sitting with the better players at NL4. There have been/is some good players there, Don is a winning reg, you yourself were crushing NL4, i have seen DOHHHHHHH play NL4, Pod1 is kicking about now and again, rancid, junglegeek, xcarolinex, JGIBB the list goes on and on. Dont see the point in sitting on a table with any of them when there is so much dead money on offer on all the other tables.

The_Don90 · October 2011

i know you guys are right tbh. Anyways ended up at the pub last night and spent £3 on 2 frenzy goes yesterday. Will be back grinding today. think its about time i stopped all this cowerring from cash.

The_Don90 · October 2011

21st Oct

Morning session

Another earth crashing confidence blow. Maybe im doing somehting wrong i dnt know. I mixed NL4 and NL8 2 tables of each. Went for value.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
The_Don90	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£8.30
WINKY911	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£11.13
	Your hole cards	Q Q
metaflop	Fold
Cushty101	Raise		£0.40	£0.52	£1.95
Daniel-son	Fold
Tingo	Fold
The_Don90	Raise		£1.64	£2.16	£6.66
WINKY911	Fold
Cushty101	All-in		£1.95	£4.11	£0.00
The_Don90	Call		£0.67	£4.78	£5.99
The_Don90	Show	Q Q
Cushty101	Show	A 3
Flop
		K 3 5
Turn
		6
River
		9
The_Don90	Win	Pair of Queens	£4.42		£10.41

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
rooney8	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£4.00
lewis345	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.61
	Your hole cards	8 9
frankie700	Fold
The_Don90	Raise		£0.16	£0.22	£3.82
ballboy	Fold
nobby999	Call		£0.16	£0.38	£1.68
rooney8	Fold
lewis345	Call		£0.12	£0.50	£4.49
Flop
		6 7 10
lewis345	Bet		£0.50	£1.00	£3.99
The_Don90	Call		£0.50	£1.50	£3.32
nobby999	Fold
Turn
		J
lewis345	Bet		£0.12	£1.62	£3.87
The_Don90	Raise		£0.99	£2.61	£2.33
lewis345	Call		£0.87	£3.48	£3.00
River
		J
lewis345	Bet		£0.56	£4.04	£2.44
The_Don90	All-in		£2.33	£6.37	£0.00
lewis345	Fold
The_Don90	Muck
The_Don90	Win		£4.25		£4.25
The_Don90	Return		£1.77	£0.35	£6.02

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
macollie30	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£6.70
kayemel	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£10.50
	Your hole cards	A A
lvlark	Raise		£0.24	£0.36	£7.11
The_Don90	Raise		£0.72	£1.08	£7.28
biffa8806	Fold
benjiw	Fold
macollie30	Fold
kayemel	Fold
lvlark	Call		£0.48	£1.56	£6.63
Flop
		7 10 J
lvlark	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£1.17	£2.73	£6.11
lvlark	Raise		£3.00	£5.73	£3.63
The_Don90	All-in		£6.11	£11.84	£0.00
lvlark	All-in		£3.63	£15.47	£0.00
The_Don90	Unmatched bet		£0.65	£14.82	£0.65
lvlark	Show	10 10
The_Don90	Show	A A
Turn
		6
River
		8
lvlark	Win	Three 10s	£13.70		£13.70

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
craggers30	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£0.23
IS67	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£7.69
	Your hole cards	10 J
The_Don90	Raise		£0.32	£0.44	£7.56
biffa8806	Fold
craggers30	Fold
IS67	Call		£0.24	£0.68	£7.45
Flop
		2 6 7
IS67	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.51	£1.19	£7.05
IS67	Call		£0.51	£1.70	£6.94
Turn
		9
IS67	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£1.28	£2.98	£5.77
IS67	Call		£1.28	£4.26	£5.66
River
		7
IS67	Check
The_Don90	Check
IS67	Show	Q A
The_Don90	Muck	10 J
IS67	Win	Pair of 7s	£3.94		£9.60

Closing Balance: £124.35

I need to start winning pots soon. I cant keep this up.

rancid · October 2011

don't play NL8 - rebuild at NL4

Dudeskin8 · October 2011

AA v 10's - cooler.

J10s - LOL so sick, although I check behind on turn with extra 3 outs and after strong cbet was called. Good for you though that you have someone who can't fold Ace high to two chunky bets, value town baby.

The_Don90 · October 2011

Decided to play last nights Mini ME. Ive never played in a mini, and ive never cashed in an ME so any cash i was counting as an ME cash to get that burden off me back.

Anyways was an eventful tourny so decided to post up some hands as a report for it.

First hour i played pretty bad didnt run well either. 2nd hour if found my pace and a lil bit of run good too.

First spot i find

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
jvl	Small blind		50.00	50.00	1907.50
BILKOMGS	Big blind		100.00	150.00	9113.75
	Your hole cards	A 10
jgn	Fold
solooooooo	Raise		300.00	450.00	2281.25
The_Don90	All-in		1113.25	1563.25	0.00
andrew1947	Fold
jvl	Fold
BILKOMGS	Fold
solooooooo	Call		813.25	2376.50	1468.00
solooooooo	Show	10 J
The_Don90	Show	A 10
Flop
		7 J 8
Turn
		K
River
		Q
The_Don90	Win	Flush to the Ace	2376.50		2376.50

followed by another

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
solooooooo	Small blind		75.00	75.00	4079.00
The_Don90	Big blind		150.00	225.00	2741.50
	Your hole cards	7 A
andrew1947	Fold
jvl	Fold
BILKOMGS	Call		150.00	375.00	9742.75
jgn	Fold
solooooooo	Call		75.00	450.00	4004.00
The_Don90	Check
Flop
		A 7 9
solooooooo	Check
The_Don90	Bet		331.99	781.99	2409.51
BILKOMGS	Call		331.99	1113.98	9410.76
solooooooo	Fold
Turn
		K
The_Don90	Bet		835.49	1949.47	1574.02
BILKOMGS	Raise		1670.98	3620.45	7739.78
The_Don90	All-in		1574.02	5194.47	0.00
BILKOMGS	Call		738.53	5933.00	7001.25
The_Don90	Show	7 A
BILKOMGS	Show	9 K
River
		Q
The_Don90	Win	Flush to the Ace	5933.00		5933.00

And within 10 mins i had 10K

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
BILKOMGS	Small blind		100.00	100.00	5726.25
jgn	Big blind		200.00	300.00	6770.00
	Your hole cards	K A
solooooooo	Call		200.00	500.00	3904.00
The_Don90	Raise		555.00	1055.00	4723.00
andrew1947	Fold
jvl	Fold
BILKOMGS	All-in		5726.25	6781.25	0.00
jgn	Fold
solooooooo	Fold
The_Don90	All-in		4723.00	11504.25	0.00
BILKOMGS	Unmatched bet		548.25	10956.00	548.25
BILKOMGS	Show	A Q
The_Don90	Show	K A
Flop
		3 6 J
Turn
		9
River
		K
The_Don90	Win	Pair of Kings	10956.00		10956.00

gotta win your flips. At this point id been very active on this table. I expected to see alot worse than Jacks here/

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
BananaDog	Small blind		125.00	125.00	8883.76
LabRat1106	Big blind		250.00	375.00	6975.00
	Your hole cards	Q A
Maj	Fold
bigbud28	Fold
tallytink	Fold
The_Don90	Raise		555.00	930.00	10376.00
BananaDog	Fold
LabRat1106	Raise		1400.00	2330.00	5575.00
The_Don90	All-in		10376.00	12706.00	0.00
LabRat1106	All-in		5575.00	18281.00	0.00
The_Don90	Unmatched bet		3706.00	14575.00	3706.00
LabRat1106	Show	J J
The_Don90	Show	Q A
Flop
		A 8 8
Turn
		9
River
		4
The_Don90	Win	Two Pairs, Aces and 8s	14575.00		18281.00

right before end of second hour

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
chelseaAA	Small blind		200.00	200.00	11402.50
JMH7	Big blind		400.00	600.00	6800.00
	Your hole cards	Q K
The_Don90	Raise		888.88	1488.88	19984.46
MRBIGCHIPS	Fold
GrimmDark	Fold
COFFEENCRM	Fold
chelseaAA	Call		688.88	2177.76	10713.62
JMH7	Call		488.88	2666.64	6311.12
Flop
		K 6 8
chelseaAA	Bet		400.00	3066.64	10313.62
JMH7	Call		400.00	3466.64	5911.12
The_Don90	Raise		2000.00	5466.64	17984.46
chelseaAA	Call		1600.00	7066.64	8713.62
JMH7	Fold
Turn
		4
chelseaAA	Check
The_Don90	Bet		3200.00	10266.64	14784.46
chelseaAA	Call		3200.00	13466.64	5513.62
River
		5
chelseaAA	Check
The_Don90	Check
chelseaAA	Show	6 6
The_Don90	Muck	Q K
chelseaAA	Win	Three 6s	13466.64		18980.26

and right after that again

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
chelseaAA	Small blind		250.00	250.00	18230.26
JMH7	Big blind		500.00	750.00	5411.12
	Your hole cards	A Q
The_Don90	Raise		1111.11	1861.11	12923.35
GrimmDark	All-in		4225.00	6086.11	0.00
COFFEENCRM	Fold
chelseaAA	Fold
JMH7	Fold
The_Don90	Call		3113.89	9200.00	9809.46
The_Don90	Show	A Q
GrimmDark	Show	7 7
Flop
		5 8 2
Turn
		Q
River
		A
The_Don90	Win	Two Pairs, Aces and Queens	9200.00		19009.46

double quickfire hands here back to back. 4 from money at this point

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
COFFEENCRM	Small blind		300.00	300.00	19603.75
chelseaAA	Big blind		600.00	900.00	18030.26
	Your hole cards	K A
JMH7	Fold
The_Don90	Raise		1322.22	2222.22	17809.46
YOUNG_GUN	All-in		6887.50	9109.72	0.00
MELfeaAYR	Fold
COFFEENCRM	Fold
chelseaAA	Fold
The_Don90	Call		5565.28	14675.00	12244.18
The_Don90	Show	K A
YOUNG_GUN	Show	A A
Flop
		3 5 6
Turn
		7
River
		Q
YOUNG_GUN	Win	Pair of Aces	14675.00		14675.00

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
chelseaAA	Small blind		300.00	300.00	17730.26
JMH7	Big blind		600.00	900.00	3811.12
	Your hole cards	Q Q
The_Don90	Raise		1322.22	2222.22	10921.96
YOUNG_GUN	Raise		2766.66	4988.88	11908.34
MELfeaAYR	Fold
COFFEENCRM	Fold
chelseaAA	Fold
JMH7	All-in		3811.12	8800.00	0.00
The_Don90	All-in		10921.96	19721.96	0.00
YOUNG_GUN	Call		9477.52	29199.48	2430.82
JMH7	Show	9 9
The_Don90	Show	Q Q
YOUNG_GUN	Show	J J
Flop
		8 7 A
Turn
		9
River
		3
JMH7	Win	Three 9s	13533.36		13533.36
The_Don90	Win	Pair of Queens	15666.12		15666.12

and onto the bubble we go

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
JMH7	Small blind		300.00	300.00	14733.36
The_Don90	Big blind		600.00	900.00	15066.12
	Your hole cards	A 10
budgirl	Fold
MELfeaAYR	Fold
COFFEENCRM	Fold
chelseaAA	Fold
JMH7	Raise		1200.00	2100.00	13533.36
The_Don90	Call		900.00	3000.00	14166.12
Flop
		4 A 8
JMH7	Bet		1200.00	4200.00	12333.36
The_Don90	Raise		3600.00	7800.00	10566.12
JMH7	Call		2400.00	10200.00	9933.36
Turn
		2
JMH7	Check
The_Don90	All-in		10566.12	20766.12	0.00
JMH7	All-in		9933.36	30699.48	0.00
The_Don90	Unmatched bet		632.76	30066.72	632.76
JMH7	Show	A J
The_Don90	Show	A 10
River
		3
JMH7	Win	Pair of Aces	30066.72		30066.72

Min Cash for £7.

Closing Balance: £121.28

The_Don90 · October 2011

22nd Oct

Earlys

Why do i bother.

biggest winning pot

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
tonij362	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.82
BINBOY	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.39
	Your hole cards	5 6
The_Don90	Raise		£0.20	£0.26	£3.80
chancjr	Fold
waynebo228	Fold
alun1985	Fold
tonij362	Call		£0.18	£0.44	£3.64
BINBOY	Call		£0.16	£0.60	£4.23
Flop
		2 7 J
tonij362	Bet		£0.12	£0.72	£3.52
BINBOY	Call		£0.12	£0.84	£4.11
The_Don90	Call		£0.12	£0.96	£3.68
Turn
		3
tonij362	Bet		£0.12	£1.08	£3.40
BINBOY	Call		£0.12	£1.20	£3.99
The_Don90	Call		£0.12	£1.32	£3.56
River
		7
tonij362	Bet		£0.20	£1.52	£3.20
BINBOY	Fold
The_Don90	Raise		£1.49	£3.01	£2.07
tonij362	Fold
The_Don90	Muck
The_Don90	Win		£1.59		£3.66
The_Don90	Return		£1.29	£0.13	£4.95

So theres my confidence inspirer.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
julie1955	Sit out
polka	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£2.50
Tazmanb	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.01
	Your hole cards	K A
thetodd62	Fold
Replicator	Raise		£0.16	£0.22	£4.63
The_Don90	Raise		£0.64	£0.86	£3.30
polka	Fold
Tazmanb	Call		£0.60	£1.46	£3.41
Replicator	Call		£0.48	£1.94	£4.15
Flop
		A 10 J
Tazmanb	Bet		£1.46	£3.40	£1.95
Replicator	Fold
The_Don90	All-in		£3.30	£6.70	£0.00
Tazmanb	Call		£1.84	£8.54	£0.11
Tazmanb	Show	10 A
The_Don90	Show	K A
Turn
		A
River
		2
Tazmanb	Win	Full House, Aces and 10s	£7.89		£8.00

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
MickDundee	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.36
shunto69	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£2.56
	Your hole cards	K K
Godfarva	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£2.14
terrytabs	Raise		£0.16	£0.26	£3.03
The_Don90	Raise		£0.64	£0.90	£3.30
MickDundee	Fold
shunto69	Fold
Godfarva	Fold
terrytabs	Raise		£0.96	£1.86	£2.07
The_Don90	All-in		£3.30	£5.16	£0.00
terrytabs	All-in		£2.07	£7.23	£0.00
The_Don90	Unmatched bet		£0.75	£6.48	£0.75
terrytabs	Show	A 3
The_Don90	Show	K K
Flop
		8 4 10
Turn
		A
River
		4
terrytabs	Win	Two Pairs, Aces and 4s	£5.99		£5.99

Closing Balance: £105.13

£125 down in less than a week. From NL4, 8 and 10. Really i suck at this.

The_Don90 · October 2011

Its simple to say i cant cope with the variance. I dont wana debate over this again. Nor do i want a shoulder to cry on or be told to read The mental game of poker.

But seriously had enough. Ive put up with a week of these stupid donkey outdraws. I cant cope anymore.

Its clear from this last week i aint going to ever sucseed. So i throw in the towel. I will play. But only for enjoyment.

DOHHHHHHH · October 2011

Stop opening 6 high in early position !!!

The_Don90 · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

Stop opening 6 high in early position !!!
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

i agree that was pretty bad. But lets face it, it shows how good a player i am when the one hand i win above 50p Is a mistake.

Dudeskin8 · October 2011

AK and KK are just standard beats, just need to find some run good mate.

Glenelg · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

Its simple to say i cant cope with the variance. I dont wana debate over this again. Nor do i want a shoulder to cry on or be told to read The mental game of poker. But seriously had enough. Ive put up with a week of these stupid donkey outdraws. I cant cope anymore. Its clear from this last week i aint going to ever sucseed. So i throw in the towel. I will play. But only for enjoyment.
Posted by The_Don90

Hi Don,
Firstly, I really enjoy this thread and have learnt a lot from it (I aspire to play cash so it has been a useful read )
Secondly, was just wondering if the "diary" puts extra pressure on you? e.g. Does publicising your goals put added pressure on you?
Thirdly, what does only "for enjoyment" mean? do you mean live?
Anyway, whatever you decide - good luck.
pad

The_Don90 · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : Hi Don, Firstly, I really enjoy this thread and have learnt a lot from it (I aspire to play cash so it has been a useful read ) Secondly, was just wondering if the "diary" puts extra pressure on you? e.g. Does publicising your goals put added pressure on you? Thirdly, what does only "for enjoyment" mean? do you mean live? Anyway, whatever you decide - good luck. pad
Posted by Glenelg

when i started the diary the goal was purley to beat cash. It doesnt add pressure on me at all. if anything helps me stay focused.

Basically when i say for enjoyment. i mean i will be playing anything i like if it sounds like fun. rather than sticking to a majorly strict bankroll playing purley low stakes cash

scotty77 · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : when i started the diary the goal was purley to beat cash. It doesnt add pressure on me at all. if anything helps me stay focused. Basically when i say for enjoyment. i mean i will be playing anything i like if it sounds like fun. rather than sticking to a majorly strict bankroll playing purley low stakes cash
Posted by The_Don90

your BRM hasn't been strict enough, thats why the beats hurt

The_Don90 · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : your BRM hasn't been strict enough, thats why the beats hurt
Posted by scotty77

ryan, full respect to this comment. in defence ive been playing a BRM plan that dohhh and me disccused that sounded reasonable. Ive stopped 6 tabling and dropped 2 levels and im still losing. Thats what hurts

Dudeskin8 · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : ryan, full respect to this comment. in defence ive been playing a BRM plan that dohhh and me disccused that sounded reasonable. Ive stopped 6 tabling and dropped 2 levels and im still losing. Thats what hurts
Posted by The_Don90

What, stick it all on red and start praying ?

harding10 · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : What, stick it all on red and start praying ?
Posted by Dudeskin8

lolol

unknown_username · October 2011

Have to agree with Scotty also.

Most people say that you should'nt have more than 5% of your BR in play at one time.

You moved up to NL8 at £160ish and i think you were playing 4+ tables straight away which means if you were playing 4 tables you had £32 in play at one time out of a roll of £160 which is 20% of your BR. Way too much in my opinion mate.

I had a roll of £260 last week which is 26 buy ins at NL10 but although i play a bit of NL10 it is usually just one table along with an NL4 or NL8 table with it to stop me getting bored. If i want to play 3+ tables then i am back to NL4 and NL8 tables trying to keep a cap on how much money i have in play at one time. I'm not saying that i keep to the 5% rule but i do try and keep the % down a bit. I also have a rule if i lose two buy ins in a session then i stand up and have a break because it could be me playing badly rather than bad luck.

I'm not saying any of the above is bang on, just firing ideas about hoping it helps you maybe.

The_Don90 · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : What, stick it all on red and start praying ?
Posted by Dudeskin8

£160 to move up to NL8 £120 move back down.

£230-£250 for NL10 £160 move back down.

Ive stuck to that

Tbh dohhh encouraged me to play 2-3 tables, it was my choice to play 6 which he discouraged,

DOHHHHHHH · October 2011

Bankroll management was fine.

Until it started going wrong, few losing sessions and it went t!ts up.

Then instead of doing the right thing and nitting up/increasing hours/grinding it out, u started playing primo sats, then ukops sats, then small mtts, then bounty hunters, basically anything but cash.

U have to learn to lose.

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Take last night for example, u said u were gonna play. Friday night, 8pm, absolutely perfect grinding time.

What do you do?

1 table the mini open for 3 hours, get outdrawn, moan, start cursing your luck, and go to bed.

What a wasted opportunity that was.

Poker_Fail · October 2011

I think you should read "The Mental Game of Poker" by Jared Tendler

rancid · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : £160 to move up to NL8 £120 move back down. £230-£250 for NL10 £160 move back down. Ive stuck to that Tbh dohhh encouraged me to play 2-3 tables, it was my choice to play 6 which he discouraged,
Posted by The_Don90

I don't think this is strict enough becuase even though your not doing much wrong the beats come at this level
thick and fast and before you know it your £40 down and on severe tilt becuase you can't believe whats just happened and now you feel you need to teach them a lesson and boom another £40 gone.
Trust me, been there done that.

I would suggest grind 6 tables ABC tight aggro NL4 back to £180, when at £180. PLAY 2X NL8 only and use these two buy in's to get you off the ground - alongside this you can also play 2or4 x NL4.
Play 2xNL8 till you hit £230 and rinse and repeat
The extra buy ins should give you some levrage and allow you to still be rolled easily for the level below which you know you can beat and grind money from.

Don't rush it Don, slowly slowly catchy monkey

unknown_username · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : I don't think this is strict enough becuase even though your not doing much wrong the beats come at this level thick and fast and before you know it your £40 down and on severe tilt becuase you can't believe whats just happened and now you feel you need to teach them a lesson and boom another £40 gone. Trust me, been there done that. I would suggest grind 6 tables ABC tight aggro NL4 back to £180, when at £180. PLAY 2X NL8 only and use these two buy in's to get you off the ground - alongside this you can also play 2or4 x NL4. Play 2xNL8 till you hit £230 and rinse and repeat The extra buy ins should give you some levrage and allow you to still be rolled easily for the level below which you know you can beat and grind money from. Don't rush it Don, slowly slowly catchy monkey
Posted by rancid

This ^^^^^^^^

Sounds a bit more like it.

Doesnt hurt as much then. I lost £15 out of a roll of £260 yesterday with people outdrawing me. I smiled at the first one, shook my head at the 2nd one and the cushion on the settee next to me got mullered after the 3rd one. Knew i was getting pee'd off with it so stood up and left it. It wasnt my night.

My advice to your current situation (i have been in similar) is to drop to NL4, find 2 or 3 tables with plenty of recreational players and tighten right up until you have a hand you KNOW is good ang get it in. Even a couple of half decent sessions should get you back on track.

Good luck mate!

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