taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary

The_Don90 · October 2011

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In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : This ^^^^^^^^ Sounds a bit more like it. Doesnt hurt as much then. I lost £15 out of a roll of £260 yesterday with people outdrawing me. I smiled at the first one, shook my head at the 2nd one and the cushion on the settee next to me got mullered after the 3rd one. Knew i was getting pee'd off with it so stood up and left it. It wasnt my night. My advice to your current situation (i have been in similar) is to drop to NL4, find 2 or 3 tables with plenty of recreational players and tighten right up until you have a hand you KNOW is good ang get it in. Even a couple of half decent sessions should get you back on track. Good luck mate!
Posted by DrSharp

i tried that. I waited till i got kings, got it in v A3 he binks Ace. doent work.

liamboi11 · October 2011

sorry no read this thread in a while whats your roll at now don?

The_Don90 · October 2011

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sorry no read this thread in a while whats your roll at now don?
Posted by liamboi11

105 and heading southbound. think most of it already hit the m6.

liamboi11 · October 2011

how many tables do you play comfortably because i can play up to 6 but feel i play my best when im only playin 2-3 so think you should play whatever you think is best at 4nl and grind it up 2 160 again you can do it all the best m8

The_Don90 · October 2011

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how many tables do you play comfortably because i can play up to 6 but feel i play my best when im only playin 2-3 so think you should play whatever you think is best at 4nl and grind it up 2 160 again you can do it all the best m8
Posted by liamboi11

im playing 2-3 atm. i can play 6 confortably but not when im stuggling to win.

Lambert180 · October 2011

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In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : i tried that. I waited till i got kings, got it in v A3 he binks Ace. doent work.
Posted by The_Don90

I hope you regret posting this Don lol. No offence but come on, you know it's all about percentages and you know that KK is MILES ahead of A3, you know you want him to make this call because this is exactly how you make your money.

DOHHHHHHH · October 2011

Turned £40 into £105 in 9 weeks.

Apparently he's "not a winning player" and "can't make money @ cash"

Things that make ya go hmmmmmmmmmmmm .............

The_Don90 · October 2011

Came third in the 3pm GTD thing again. for £42

However very annoyed at this result. 3 people left im 2:1 chip leader. double a guy up BvB then top pair v top pair BvB im outkicked. Shove AT called by 44. flop ATx river 4. FML.

Anyways still its profit.

Balance: £140.79

Lambert180 · October 2011

I haven't been following this for a while but surely you should have a different BR for when you're playing MTTs?

Surely if you keep winning the odd £40 here and there on MTTs and you're BR is staying about the same or even if there's slight increases/decreases, how are you ever gonna know if you're a winning player at cash?

I do use the same BR for all my pokering, but I keep every single bit of poker I play on an Excel spreadsheet, with different tabs for MTTs/Cash etc so I can see at a glance instantly my profit/loss for all formats of the game and can see any good runs/bad runs, cos I literally have a seperate line on the spreadsheet for every single MTT/DYM I buy into and a different line for every cash session which details numbers of hours played, number of tables, number of hands/hour, the blinds, etc so from that it automatically works out the cumulative total of the number of hands I've played, what my win rate is in terms of BB/hour and so on, very useful.

I'll happily PM it to anyone if they want a copy.

The_Don90 · October 2011

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I haven't been following this for a while but surely you should have a different BR for when you're playing MTTs? Surely if you keep winning the odd £40 here and there on MTTs and you're BR is staying about the same or even if there's slight increases/decreases, how are you ever gonna know if you're a winning player at cash? I do use the same BR for all my pokering, but I keep every single bit of poker I play on an Excel spreadsheet, with different tabs for MTTs/Cash etc so I can see at a glance instantly my profit/loss for all formats of the game and can see any good runs/bad runs, cos I literally have a seperate line on the spreadsheet for every single MTT/DYM I buy into and a different line for every cash session which details numbers of hours played, number of tables, number of hands/hour, the blinds, etc so from that it automatically works out the cumulative total of the number of hands I've played, what my win rate is in terms of BB/hour and so on, very useful. I'll happily PM it to anyone if they want a copy.
Posted by Lambert180

im actually pretty good at keeping tabs anyways. Im in profit in both since start of this diary. This week im down about £160 in cash and +50 in mtts.

pod1 · October 2011

keep goin bud

pilgrim07 · October 2011

Hi Don. I have been following your diary with great interest, and to my way of thinking you have done pretty darn good. Certainly we fishes of the nl4 level hope that the variance turns once again in your favour, we definately don`t want you on our tables--you`re too good! Run like James mate.

The_Don90 · October 2011

22nd Oct

Night session

Average.

This hand was 1 cbet shut down then i realised stack + my re-draw so continued a second street

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
_CK_	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.91
The_Don90	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.00
	Your hole cards	A Q
mariamore	Fold
LUCKBOX89	Fold
doddo	Raise		£0.20	£0.26	£3.29
conrad02	Fold
_CK_	Fold
The_Don90	Raise		£0.80	£1.06	£3.20
doddo	Call		£0.64	£1.70	£2.65
Flop
		4 4 K
The_Don90	Bet		£0.85	£2.55	£2.35
doddo	Call		£0.85	£3.40	£1.80
Turn
		2
The_Don90	All-in		£2.35	£5.75	£0.00
doddo	Fold
The_Don90	Muck
The_Don90	Win		£3.14		£3.14
The_Don90	Return		£2.35	£0.26	£5.49

And notes are wounderful. Little yellow box here told me if i 3bet hed call with literally any ace, which i crush and that if he flopped it he wouldnt fold. Nice to know its accurate. Ive "x" his name since im not sharing

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
The_Don90	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.94
polka	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£0.63
	Your hole cards	Q A
x	Raise		£0.16	£0.22	£5.12
Spike2120	Fold
The_Don90	Raise		£0.62	£0.84	£3.32
polka	Fold
x	Call		£0.48	£1.32	£4.64
Flop
		J A 5
The_Don90	Bet		£0.99	£2.31	£2.33
x	Call		£0.99	£3.30	£3.65
Turn
		3
The_Don90	All-in		£2.33	£5.63	£0.00
x	Call		£2.33	£7.96	£1.32
The_Don90	Show	Q A
x	Show	A 7
River
		8
The_Don90	Win	Pair of Aces	£7.36		£7.36

Closing Balance: £140.05

This session has alot of positive. Both my biggest hands where winning hands. However i did open a little too much which meant i finnished in a small loss. However i will continue to take positives from this session. Considering i had no losing hands this big. Huge boost of confidence.

MP33 · October 2011

good to see it going well Don

TBH since i stopped giving myself challenges on here ive hardly played ( played 1 x 6 max £5 STT and only coz i noticed it was FL which is pretty rare on here nowadays ) and not put any work in at all on my game.

It will help you by keeping the thread going - Will set myself a new target this week

GL

The_Don90 · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

good to see it going well Don TBH since i stopped giving myself challenges on here ive hardly played ( played 1 x 6 max £5 STT and only coz i noticed it was FL which is pretty rare on here nowadays ) and not put any work in at all on my game. It will help you by keeping the thread going - Will set myself a new target this week GL
Posted by MP33

best of luck mate,

Yeah defo needed a turn in confidence and a lil self belief again. but will be better and stronger as i build up.

Bad news for all and thread, got the new football manager so this my limit my game time of a week or two

The_Don90 · October 2011

23rd Oct

Night session

Lasted 15 mins. Yea fml.

Also to note played 2x £2 primo sats got the £12 from second one didnt make it.

Biggest winning hand inspires confidence

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
BIGVAL88	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.16
IrishMustd	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£10.33
	Your hole cards	6 6
xxalxx	Fold
ted1917	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£3.88
The_Don90	Raise		£0.20	£0.30	£3.74
BIGVAL88	Fold
IrishMustd	Fold
ted1917	Call		£0.16	£0.46	£3.72
Flop
		6 3 8
ted1917	Bet		£0.04	£0.50	£3.68
The_Don90	Raise		£0.45	£0.95	£3.29
ted1917	Call		£0.41	£1.36	£3.27
Turn
		K
ted1917	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£1.02	£2.38	£2.27
ted1917	Fold
The_Don90	Muck
The_Don90	Win		£1.25		£3.52
The_Don90	Return		£1.02	£0.11	£4.54

In reverse order losing hands.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
barr01	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£1.99
The_Don90	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.96
	Your hole cards	Q Q
_G_	Fold
Jmolls	Fold
Prop60	Fold
barr01	Raise		£0.06	£0.12	£1.93
The_Don90	Raise		£0.20	£0.32	£3.76
barr01	Raise		£0.32	£0.64	£1.61
The_Don90	Raise		£0.80	£1.44	£2.96
barr01	Raise		£1.28	£2.72	£0.33
The_Don90	All-in		£2.96	£5.68	£0.00
barr01	All-in		£0.33	£6.01	£0.00
The_Don90	Unmatched bet		£1.99	£4.02	£1.99
barr01	Show	A A
The_Don90	Show	Q Q
Flop
		8 2 2
Turn
		3
River
		K
barr01	Win	Two Pairs, Aces and 2s	£3.71		£3.71

how do we like our action cards sky? P.S. im floating flop although i think my hand is often still good

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
weemrt18	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£2.70
buzzerram	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£2.30
	Your hole cards	6 6
GFKIJKLL	Raise		£0.12	£0.18	£4.28
The_Don90	Call		£0.12	£0.30	£3.82
begbiekoch	Fold
weemrt18	Fold
buzzerram	Fold
Flop
		Q 2 3
GFKIJKLL	Bet		£0.23	£0.53	£4.05
The_Don90	Call		£0.23	£0.76	£3.59
Turn
		6
GFKIJKLL	Bet		£0.57	£1.33	£3.48
The_Don90	Raise		£1.14	£2.47	£2.45
GFKIJKLL	Raise		£2.09	£4.56	£1.39
The_Don90	All-in		£2.45	£7.01	£0.00
GFKIJKLL	Call		£0.93	£7.94	£0.46
GFKIJKLL	Show	9 A
The_Don90	Show	6 6
River
		7
GFKIJKLL	Win	Flush to the Ace	£7.34		£7.80

Can probably fold turn against most villans here but notes said he could have second pair here

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
x	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.82
heddoh18	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£1.02
	Your hole cards	A 10
The_Don90	Raise		£0.20	£0.26	£4.50
IrishMustd	Fold
xxalxx	Fold
x	Call		£0.18	£0.44	£3.64
heddoh18	Fold
Flop
		A 9 3
x	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.33	£0.77	£4.17
x	Raise		£0.66	£1.43	£2.98
The_Don90	Call		£0.33	£1.76	£3.84
Turn
		7
x	All-in		£2.98	£4.74	£0.00
The_Don90	Call		£2.98	£7.72	£0.86
x	Show	9 9
The_Don90	Show	A 10
River
		5
x	Win	Three 9s	£7.14		£7.14

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
tim452	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£8.12
kano47	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£1.33
	Your hole cards	K A
The_Don90	Raise		£0.20	£0.26	£3.80
carrotttop	Fold
DankOne	Raise		£0.36	£0.62	£3.29
longman912	Fold
tim452	Fold
kano47	Fold
The_Don90	Raise		£0.80	£1.42	£3.00
DankOne	Call		£0.64	£2.06	£2.65
Flop
		3 K 9
The_Don90	Bet		£1.55	£3.61	£1.45
DankOne	Call		£1.55	£5.16	£1.10
Turn
		5
The_Don90	All-in		£1.45	£6.61	£0.00
DankOne	All-in		£1.10	£7.71	£0.00
The_Don90	Unmatched bet		£0.35	£7.36	£0.35
The_Don90	Show	K A
DankOne	Show	10 J
River
		7
DankOne	Win	Flush to the King	£6.80		£6.80

Closing Balance: £121.12

Really do wounder why i keep putting myself through this. end up tilting snapping at mates because they say i should play through.

Dudeskin8 · October 2011

QQ - Canny fold preflop EVER at NL4 imo.

66 - I probz fold flop as I'm a giant nit but can see why you call as hard to hit that flop. Turn is the bingo card.

A10 - pre good, flop cbet good, check/minraise here is usually something that beats your hand, but again that's cus I is tight, fwiw if I have AK it's toally different as I don't like folding TPTK.

AK - Nh.

Most of it's variance, the last one for me would be a proper killer, but there is a dash of tilt which I can sympophise with to some extent but if you play within a decent BR (which you have for NL4) you should never experiance it.

The_Don90 · October 2011

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QQ - Canny fold preflop EVER at NL4 imo. 66 - I probz fold flop as I'm a giant nit but can see why you call as hard to hit that flop. Turn is the bingo card. A10 - pre good, flop cbet good, check/minraise here is usually something that beats your hand, but again that's cus I is tight, fwiw if I have AK it's toally different as I don't like folding TPTK. AK - Nh. Most of it's variance, the last one for me would be a proper killer, but there is a dash of tilt which I can sympophise with to some extent but if you play within a decent BR (which you have for NL4) you should never experiance it.
Posted by Dudeskin8

my only tweet this week.

"**** Off variance - that is all"

I know its going to change. I just cant cope with it at all. I just keep piling pressure on myself to win. Maybe a few days of FM might distract me a lil.

Dudeskin8 · October 2011

Yh you just have to see it like a roller coaster, your going down hill right now but eventually you have to start rising again and making profit, well unless it's a Final Destination roller coaster but don't think about that.

Poker_Fail · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

Yh you just have to see it like a roller coaster, your going down hill right now but eventually you have to start rising again and making profit, well unless it's a Final Destination roller coaster but don't think about that.
Posted by Dudeskin8

But rollercoasters never make it back to the peak

The_Don90 · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

Yh you just have to see it like a roller coaster, your going down hill right now but eventually you have to start rising again and making profit, well unless it's a Final Destination roller coaster but don't think about that.
Posted by Dudeskin8

it seems that way atm. hopefully itll turn sooner rather than later

bahh · October 2011

i think the 66 hand and the A10 hand you could have easily got away from and its cost you, the qq hand was just unlucky, your never folding here with him having only x50BB's, and the AK hand is sickening but it happens man! Keep going, don't let it get you down!

The_Don90 · October 2011

guys, not a bad beat story. but clearly im starting to stuggle mentally at the moment. which is starting to effect my game so ive decided to take this week off.

ty for all your continued support.

P.S. was going to play the flops events but ive decided to pull out of that after this exit 10 mins into day one

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
ash1238811	Small blind		10.00	10.00	11690.00
The_Don90	Big blind		20.00	30.00	4455.00
	Your hole cards	A A
sara36dd08	Raise		60.00	90.00	4810.00
x	Call		60.00	150.00	4880.00
LEON1	Raise		180.00	330.00	3835.00
ash1238811	Fold
The_Don90	Raise		400.00	730.00	4055.00
sara36dd08	Call		360.00	1090.00	4450.00
x	Call		360.00	1450.00	4520.00
LEON1	Call		240.00	1690.00	3595.00
Flop
		K 5 3
The_Don90	Bet		1267.50	2957.50	2787.50
sara36dd08	Fold
x	All-in		4520.00	7477.50	0.00
LEON1	Fold
The_Don90	All-in		2787.50	10265.00	0.00
x	Unmatched bet		465.00	9800.00	465.00
The_Don90	Show	A A
x	Show	K 9
Turn
		9
River
		9
x	Win	Full House, 9s and Kings	9800.00		10265.00

Dudeskin8 · October 2011

81% fave here Donny, like I keep saying ya'll joust gouta found sowm ran gouwd

stien · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

i think the 66 hand and the A10 hand you could have easily got away from and its cost you, the qq hand was just unlucky, your never folding here with him having only x50BB's, and the AK hand is sickening but it happens man! Keep going, don't let it get you down!
Posted by bahh

You sir are very very right re the 66 AT hands. The beats do get you down thou I can assure you and the more you suffer the more likely you get to the point where you think he can't have it again, but they usually do. Bad beats lead to bad play this I do know.

rancid · October 2011

This run can't get any worse can it

Look on bright side things can only get better.

As these kinda things even out you are due some run good.

Lambert180 · October 2011

Yeah exactly as Rancid said. That's how I try to think of bad beats these days, I think well that was against the way it should of went so it stands to reason that sometime in the future (probably the near future if you play a fair amount) things will go the way they should AND a bit more in your favour to balance out.

The_Don90 · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

Yeah exactly as Rancid said. That's how I try to think of bad beats these days, I think well that was against the way it should of went so it stands to reason that sometime in the future (probably the near future if you play a fair amount) things will go the way they should AND a bit more in your favour to balance out.
Posted by Lambert180

the cards dont have memories.

Lambert180 · October 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : the cards dont have memories.
Posted by The_Don90

Of course the cards dont have memories but take flipping a coin for instance. It's 50/50 chance of what's gonna come up.... sure you could do it and be really lucky/unlucky and get 10 heads in a row (you losing 10 lots of QQ v AK) but if you flip it enough it will eventually get to 50/50 on results so... and likewise your QQ v AK hands will eventually balance out at 50/50 (assuming the odds were actually 50% each which I know they're not) so if you've lost 10 in a row, then there will come a time when you'll win 10 in a row, or the equivelant. The point is, eventually it'll balance out, so everytime you lose a flip, it's almost like you're owed a win next time (it might not come the very next time but it WILL come)

rancid · October 2011

the luck and bad luck is shared equally between all players.
There are not lucky and unlucky players.
The cards do not have memories but would you rarther run good in a £10 re buy or £500 freezout
Your just lucky if you run good in the £500, really unlucky if you run good in the £10 and bust 1st level of the £500.
Due to varaince you can't choose when bad luck decends on you.

Don,
can't wait till you come back and post ) Missing you already !!

taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary

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