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Sky Poker Fairness

Sky_RichSky_Rich
edited August 2009 in Area 51
Hi everyone.

I have seen a few threads running on this forums as to whether Sky Poker is fair, or fixed etc etc.

these type of topics are perfectly acceptable and i certainly will not be closing them down-  i just wanted to give you all our official stance and ensure you all that at Sky Poker and Sky we take fairness very seriously...

i had a quick chat with the compliance and responsibility team at Sky and here is the info should you require it:

Sky Poker, Bingo and Casino are licensed and regulated by the Alderney Gambling Control Commission, (www.gamblingcontrol.org) and Sky Bet is licensed and regulated by the UK Gambling Commission (www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk).

To this day Alderney maintains arguably the highest standards to be found in internet gaming and everything we do is tested externally and approved before launch to ensure that it is compliant with regulation and operating fairly.


Thanks for your time guys, and a massive thank you for your terrific response to the community so far. with your continued support i am sure we can go from strength to strength and make this community even better.

Rich

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  • mr_mbromr_mbro
    edited July 2009
    In Response to Sky Poker Fairness:
    Hi everyone. I have seen a few threads running on this forums as to whether Sky Poker is fair, or fixed etc etc. these type of topics are perfectly acceptable and i certainly will not be closing them down-  i just wanted to give you all our official stance and ensure you all that at Sky Poker and Sky we take fairness very seriously... i had a quick chat with the compliance and responsibility team at Sky and here is the info should you require it: Sky Poker, Bingo and C asino are licensed and regulated by the Alderney Gambling Control Commission, ( www.gamblingcontrol.org ) and Sky Bet is licensed and regulated by the UK Gambling Commission ( www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk ). To this day Alderney maintains arguably the highest standards to be found in internet gaming and everything we do is tested externally and approved before launch to ensure that it is compliant with regulation and operating fairly. Thanks for your time guys, and a massive thank you for your terrific response to the community so far. with your continued support i am sure we can go from strength to strength and make this community even better. Rich
    Posted by Sky_Rich
    Hi Rich,

    I've stopped reading the is Sky fixed section or any post on those line, as i'm sick to the back teeth of people whinging about Sky's fairness.
    It's not your job to reply to such bad losers, in the appropriate manner so let me do it for.
    IF YOU DONT LIKE IT, CLEAR OFF TO ANOTHER SITE AND YOU'LL FIND THE SAME HAPPENS THERE AND LIVE.
    At DTD on saturday and sunday there where some horrendus badbeats and out draws on the river, THATS POKER ,get over it.
    Ok rant over
     cheers col
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  • mickjenn1mickjenn1
    edited July 2009
    n1 colin am the same as u m8 if they dont like it find another site it happens everywhere and ur defo right about dtd ppl think they only happen online no chance maybe the ppl who rant have never played live and dont no wat 2 expect, nice meetin u anyway at dtd well done with the early chip stack but what happened lol
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  • mr_mbromr_mbro
    edited July 2009
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Fairness:
    n1 colin am the same as u m8 if they dont like it find another site it happens everywhere and ur defo right about dtd ppl think they only happen online no chance maybe the ppl who rant have never played live and dont no wat 2 expect, nice meetin u anyway at dtd well done with the early chip stack but what happened lol
    Posted by mickjenn1
    nice to meet you to m8, i ran into someone with aces and lost half my stack, hey ho,14 hours of play and one mistake screwed me.
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  • OMahonyOOMahonyO
    edited July 2009
    I think the problem is most ppl dont see poker as a long term game, so need to book a win every session.

    In a way I can see ppls frustration.  I have many thousands of hands in my database, and over these, I am a clear winner, however there are periods where I have been on a 3 -4 k hand downswing ( and ppl have  more than this). I multitable quite a bit so can soon get through this.
    However, most of these ppl that moan about fixing etc, will prob play only 1-2 tables, so getting through that many hands 1 tabling, could take 40 hrs +. ( correct me if im wrong, not sure bout No. hands/hr on here).

    If they are playing 3 hrs per session, then they are playing 13+ sessions of being outdrawn/coolered etc, which could be quite demoralising.

    I think ppl need to look past this.  Another thing, I dont think many winning players moan about fixing.

    I was at the casino the other night and someone on my table was saying online poker was fixed. Maybe I am wrong, but I straight away thought `FISH`.

    Also, good bankroll management is key to maintaining your sanity when going on these downswings, or all the time for that matter.
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  • jimbo31jimbo31
    edited July 2009
    as already stated you play much more hands online... it can be deflating when u hit a purple patch and think that how on earth can they hit that 2 outer.... but how many times have you hit that 2 outer??.... it swings in roundabouts and because of the quickness of online and hands per hour inevitably you will get sucked out... but thats the game... and if people think about it... you only remeber the bad beats that happens to you... not the ones that you do to others!
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  • YoungUnYoungUn
    edited July 2009
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Fairness:
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Fairness : nice to meet you to m8, i ran into someone with aces and lost half my stack, hey ho,14 hours of play and one mistake screwed me.
    Posted by mr_mbro
    Ditto Col, lol!

    Good post Rich, I think the bottom line is that online gaming sites would not be in operation without legal regulation, so to even question it is absurd. Hopefully this will prevent any further such topics being posted.
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  • beaujolaisbeaujolais
    edited July 2009
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Fairness:
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Fairness : Ditto Col, lol! Good post Rich, I think the bottom line is that online gaming sites would not be in operation without legal regulation, so to even question it is absurd. Hopefully this will prevent any further such topics being posted.
    Posted by YoungUn[/QUO

    as anyone else noticed that the only part of sky that is controlled by the uk gambling commision is sky bet which cant be manipulated????????????????? due to it being mostly football racing ect
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  • mike1975mike1975
    edited July 2009

    It might just be me being stupid but, i just cant see the point of sky fixing any game. Why would they care who wins a hand?, they get their rake or buy in fee no matter who wins. i just dont see any reason why they would want to pick a specific winner or loser?

    It would be nice to hear from some of the ppl that post that sky is fixed, the reason they think sky would fix the game to make them lose? i mean what do they think sky poker has against them?

    i just find the whole thing weird.

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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited July 2009
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Fairness:
    It might just be me being stupid but, i just cant see the point of sky fixing any game. Why would they care who wins a hand?, they get their rake or buy in fee no matter who wins. i just dont see any reason why they would want to pick a specific winner or loser? It would be nice to hear from some of the ppl that post that sky is fixed, the reason they think sky would fix the game to make them lose? i mean what do they think sky poker has against them? i just find the whole thing weird.
    Posted by mike1975
    And there you have it. It's that simple.
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  • topchipy1topchipy1
    edited July 2009
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Fairness:
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Fairness : And there you have it. It's that simple.
    Posted by Tikay10
    spot on tikay, it silly of anyone who gets a badbeat to say sky is rigged,  everyones gets more bad beats than winning hds and thats part of the game. sky has the best format of any poker site bar none. topchipy over and out, beam me up scottie.
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  • LONGPLAYLONGPLAY
    edited July 2009
    "It might just be me being stupid but, i just cant see the point of sky fixing any game. Why would they care who wins a hand?, they get their rake or buy in fee no matter who wins"        >>>they get their rake no matter who wins you say.... but  ask youself this...if a site rigs action "hole cards" and "action flops" on small blind cash tables the pots are consistantly much much higher than normal due to the nature of these hands eg flush  v lower flush ,set v house etc etc....the end result being a much much higher "take out" per hand for the site, why take x percent of 16 pence pots when you can manufacture 2 quid pots on a regular basis,  i would guess the higher cash tables are pretty fair due to the pot sizes being large anyway because of the blinds and thus the take out is acceptable without the need for manufacturing hands,
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  • scrumdownscrumdown
    edited July 2009
    well said long play  he does  not matter to sky who wins  then u hear players moaning   about sky putting  bots  on tables  what a load of rubbish
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  • offshootoffshoot
    edited July 2009
    Longplay your logic is flawed. The reason lower tables rake so much is because no one folds preflop. This is why you see more action flops because if theres 4 or 5 people to every flop chances are more than one person is always gonna have a bit of it. So youre obviously gonna see more bad beats where AA gets cracked by J2 and the like. Of course the higher you play the less people play hands like J2.
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  • NODEALNODEAL
    edited July 2009
    no way its fixed,     poker in a game where we need clarity of thought.....reading all info without confusion,    if someone believes the game is fixed they are creating thier own confusion...thus taking phantom info into consideration and creating extra possabillities...blah blah blah....get my drift???
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  • DAVEYZZDAVEYZZ
    edited July 2009
    no need to explain yourself all the time,i'm with you guys and sick of the muppets who say its fixed just cos they get unlucky!!!!
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  • OMahonyOOMahonyO
    edited July 2009
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Fairness:
    well said long play  he does  not matter to sky who wins  then u hear players moaning   about sky putting  bots  on tables  what a load of rubbish
    Posted by scrumdown
    Putting bots on tables is not the same as rigging sites, and when you think about it, it is in a sites best interest (financially) to put bots on tables. I have lost count the number of times I have hung onto a waiting list for a table for 10 mins, then thought, f.u.c it and gone on an empty one, only to see it filled in 2 mins.
    By the way, I am not implying in any way that sky puts bots on tables, but if they did want to, they could earn more money, and this does not matter wether the bot wins or loses. Sky, or any other site could win by using losing bots.

    Anyway, I came across a site a while ago that gave double points for your session if you were the first one at an empty table.

    Maybe sky needs to think about implementing this deal?
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  • namesb0ndnamesb0nd
    edited July 2009
    haha,how do like those apples haters?
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  • MereNoviceMereNovice
    edited July 2009

    I no longer play poker on Sky (NOT due to any concerns about the site being rigged or getting fed up with bad beats) but I’m afraid that I couldn’t help myself when reading through some of these forum entries. I just have to stick my oar in.

     

    My favourite conspiracy theories which I think I have heard on just about every site that I play on are:

     

    1. Small stacks “always” lose all-ins (in tournaments). This helps throughput on tournaments and hence the online site obtains more rake through entry fees as people play more tournaments.
    2. Small stacks “always” win all-ins in cash games. This means that cash games are prolonged and more rake is gained by the site.
    3. People go on a losing streak after withdrawing cash. I guess this is to punish them for reducing the interest the online site gets from investing their bankroll. It may also have something to do with variance but you never know.
    4. Flushes win far more hands than statistically likely. This is a self perpetuating myth. The reason being that inexperienced players (and me) play sooooted cards more often than other players. Also, once people claim that flushes win more often than they should then gullible people like me call more with flush draws and hence win more pots (in absolute terms not in percentage terms). Since losing cards are rarely shown unless all-in (and never when folded), then you will never see the true number of times that flush draws are missed.
    5. New players have above average luck to encourage them to play more. Yes, absolutely, I believe the term “beginner’s luck” was coined about the same time as the first online poker site became active. ;-) In my first 12 cash hands on Full Tilt I flopped a set over set twice – as I result I now firmly believe that the site is rigged in my favour despite years of evidence to the contrary – but hey, what can you do?
    6. Big hands clash more often than they should in online poker to generate large pots and hence more rake for the site. Hm, did anyone see the famous hand in the European Open III where AA clashed with KK and QQ – two of the other hands were 55 and 77 on a 6 seater table– it made my eyes water when I first saw it. Sadly it is no longer available for viewing on YouTube. As this clearly shows and a few of you have already pointed out, “live” poker is obviously rigged! To top it all the QQ made a set and won the pot – the KK folded to an all-in pre-flop and would have also made a set! I believe the jury is still out on whether televised poker is more rigged than other live poker.

     

     

     

    With regard to the statistics of monitoring 100 all-in hands and noting the results and comparing the actual outcome to the expected outcome, then I’m afraid that this is next to useless because it is FAR too small a sample to make any assessment on it. The only remarkable thing is the almost exact correlation between the expected and actual results that the guy who reviewed 60 hands observed. We mathematicians would regard this as highly suspicious if we saw it as the result of an experiment since it is “too perfect” to be likely!

     

    In response to the person who said show me quads beaten by a royal flush and I’ll start believing it’s rigged, then sorry mate, it’s already happened in the Sky Open and was shown on tv – a truly remarkable hand. It also happened in the main event of the World Series so that must be rigged too! See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdeNyPxdxBo Also, Jennifer Harman bust out with a full house to a straight flush – see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GONjUZ013SQ . This live poker is truly rigged!

     

    I’m fascinated by the use of “bots” on online sites. I’ve never understood why people are against them. Surely, a good poker player will always beat the predictability of a bot by mixing up his game to a degree that is beyond even the most sophisticated bots. I guess that the advantage that a bot would have is never making any horrendous errors but if the conspiracy theorists are right then playing “perfect” percentage poker will see them lose significantly due to the large number of bad beats – or perhaps bots are immune to bad beats?

     

    I hope that anyone reading this is able to detect how firmly my tongue is in my cheek – it was difficult to convey this without flooding the text with exclamation marks, winks and smiley faces.

     

    Enjoy your poker – bad beats (or suck outs if you’re the one benefitting) and all. Incidentally, for those that say that people who can’t accept bad beats should play chess, I lost a chess game a couple of months ago to a horrendous bad beat. It was about a 5% chance that I would make a really bad move and lose and I did just that! I’ve since stopped playing chess on that site.

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  • jayjaydeejayjaydee
    edited July 2009
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Fairness:
    It might just be me being stupid but, i just cant see the point of sky fixing any game. Why would they care who wins a hand?, they get their rake or buy in fee no matter who wins. i just dont see any reason why they would want to pick a specific winner or loser? It would be nice to hear from some of the ppl that post that sky is fixed, the reason they think sky would fix the game to make them lose? i mean what do they think sky poker has against them? i just find the whole thing weird.
    Posted by mike1975
    If ppl want to think its fixed its up to them inho; ppl think elvis is still alive, what the hey?
    You say why would they fix it?........easy enuff its that 7 iron in a 150 stroke 18 holes that soars high and lands soft on the green for a 2 putt par, THAT one shot brings u back to play something u aint very good at.
    Put it another way if every losing player stopped playing, where would online poker be? To give a loser a miracle card to take that large pot with a full house, in a session where he/she has maybe lost 5/10/20 quid might bring them back. Its a fair point to say that any site doesnt care who wins the hand as they are 'raking it in', but if the majority of losers dont come back, they lose a huge part of their rake.
    Probably not the case, because of regulation and Sky is a multi-billion corporation, in which poker is only a part.
    I agree that its stoopid, but what about free speech?
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  • maccolmaccol
    edited July 2009
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Fairness:
    I no longer play poker on Sky (NOT due to any concerns about the site being rigged or getting fed up with bad beats) but I’m afraid that I couldn’t help myself when reading through some of these forum entries. I just have to stick my oar in.   My favourite conspiracy theories which I think I have heard on just about every site that I play on are:   Small stacks “always” lose all-ins (in tournaments). This helps throughput on tournaments and hence the online site obtains more rake through entry fees as people play more tournaments. Small stacks “always” win all-ins in cash games. This means that cash games are prolonged and more rake is gained by the site. People go on a losing streak after withdrawing cash. I guess this is to punish them for reducing the interest the online site gets from investing their bankroll. It may also have something to do with variance but you never know. Flushes win far more hands than statistically likely. This is a self perpetuating myth. The reason being that inexperienced players (and me) play sooooted cards more often than other players. Also, once people claim that flushes win more often than they should then gullible people like me call more with flush draws and hence win more pots (in absolute terms not in percentage terms). Since losing cards are rarely shown unless all-in (and never when folded), then you will never see the true number of times that flush draws are missed. New players have above average luck to encourage them to play more. Yes, absolutely, I believe the term “beginner’s luck” was coined about the same time as the first online poker site became active. ;-) In my first 12 cash hands on Full Tilt I flopped a set over set twice – as I result I now firmly believe that the site is rigged in my favour despite years of evidence to the contrary – but hey, what can you do? Big hands clash more often than they should in online poker to generate large pots and hence more rake for the site. Hm, did anyone see the famous hand in the European Open III where AA clashed with KK and QQ – two of the other hands were 55 and 77 on a 6 seater table– it made my eyes water when I first saw it. Sadly it is no longer available for viewing on YouTube. As this clearly shows and a few of you have already pointed out, “live” poker is obviously rigged! To top it all the QQ made a set and won the pot – the KK folded to an all-in pre-flop and would have also made a set! I believe the jury is still out on whether televised poker is more rigged than other live poker.       With regard to the statistics of monitoring 100 all-in hands and noting the results and comparing the actual outcome to the expected outcome, then I’m afraid that this is next to useless because it is FAR too small a sample to make any assessment on it. The only remarkable thing is the almost exact correlation between the expected and actual results that the guy who reviewed 60 hands observed. We mathematicians would regard this as highly suspicious if we saw it as the result of an experiment since it is “too perfect” to be likely!   In response to the person who said show me quads beaten by a royal flush and I’ll start believing it’s rigged, then sorry mate, it’s already happened in the Sky Open and was shown on tv – a truly remarkable hand. It also happened in the main event of the World Series so that must be rigged too! See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdeNyPxdxBo Also, Jennifer Harman bust out with a full house to a straight flush – see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GONjUZ013SQ . This live poker is truly rigged!   I’m fascinated by the use of “bots” on online sites. I’ve never understood why people are against them. Surely, a good poker player will always beat the predictability of a bot by mixing up his game to a degree that is beyond even the most sophisticated bots. I guess that the advantage that a bot would have is never making any horrendous errors but if the conspiracy theorists are right then playing “perfect” percentage poker will see them lose significantly due to the large number of bad beats – or perhaps bots are immune to bad beats?   I hope that anyone reading this is able to detect how firmly my tongue is in my cheek – it was difficult to convey this without flooding the text with exclamation marks, winks and smiley faces.   Enjoy your poker – bad beats (or suck outs if you’re the one benefitting) and all. Incidentally, for those that say that people who can’t accept bad beats should play chess, I lost a chess game a couple of months ago to a horrendous bad beat. It was about a 5% chance that I would make a really bad move and lose and I did just that! I’ve since stopped playing chess on that site.
    Posted by MereNovice
    Hi Mere,
    Lets be honest mate ,95% chance you would make a really bad move.  :)
    Seriously ,how you doing? I was wondering where you had disappeared to.

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  • Supa_PhilSupa_Phil
    edited July 2009
    To all these people who keep banging on about' how would they do it', 'the employees would know' etc etc.

    Have you learned nothing from the recent banking crisis?

    Financial stitutions that have existed for hundreds of years have been found to be bent as a car crash. Who knew within these companies? Generally a few people or less!

    Fairness?

    Don't make me laugh.
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  • IAMALLIN2IAMALLIN2
    edited July 2009
    I have read quite a lot about BOTS

    A lot of players state that if you are sure you have a BOT on your table you can clean up
    BOTS act on percentages and will not act if the odds are not there, so overbetting the pot will not give the odds it requires to make the call.

    What do you guys think
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  • Supa_PhilSupa_Phil
    edited July 2009
    In Response to Sky Poker Fairness:
    Hi everyone. I have seen a few threads running on this forums as to whether Sky Poker is fair, or fixed etc etc. these type of topics are perfectly acceptable and i certainly will not be closing them down-  i just wanted to give you all our official stance and ensure you all that at Sky Poker and Sky we take fairness very seriously... i had a quick chat with the compliance and responsibility team at Sky and here is the info should you require it: Sky Poker, Bingo and C asino are licensed and regulated by the Alderney Gambling Control Commission, ( www.gamblingcontrol.org ) and Sky Bet is licensed and regulated by the UK Gambling Commission ( www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk ). To this day Alderney maintains arguably the highest standards to be found in internet gaming and everything we do is tested externally and approved before launch to ensure that it is compliant with regulation and operating fairly. Thanks for your time guys, and a massive thank you for your terrific response to the community so far. with your continued support i am sure we can go from strength to strength and make this community even better. Rich
    Posted by Sky_Rich
    Are you telling me they test before launch only and not at any point in the future?

    Why not just test athletes at the start of their careers and thats it!
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  • LightSpearLightSpear
    edited July 2009

    To all the people who think sky poker is fixed would they please explain to me WHY ?

    Why would sky want to fix it ? All they want to do is build the brand and get as many people playing as possible. That's how they make their money.
     
    The fact is there will always be people who are pot committed, on tilt or who are 'on a roll' who will call an all-in with 2 live cards and have a chance of winning, however slight.

    I also doubt any of the presenters or poker pro's would associate themselves with this site if they felt it was not all above board.

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  • DTWBANDITDTWBANDIT
    edited July 2009
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Fairness:
    well said long play  he does  not matter to sky who wins  then u hear players moaning   about sky putting  bots  on tables  what a load of rubbish
    Posted by scrumdown


            Have  come across a few people who are convinced there are BOTS on this site


            Well i DON'T believe it and the proof is  i reg for a 35p BH SIT & GO at midnight the other day 30 seated fell asleep
     woke up around 10am computer still on  GAME WAS STILL WAITING FOR PLAYERS

          So if there were bots do u not think the table would have been filled within 10 hours on small bet 


              IF YOU ARE HAVING A BAD DAY THEN TAKE A BREAK HAVE A KIT-KAT
             
              AS FOR BOTS I RECOMMEND WATCHING I ROBOT
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  • GORTONEUSGORTONEUS
    edited July 2009
        hi all just thought i would throw my 2 pence worth in ,started playing on line about 4 years ago on 888.com play money at first then upt to real cash but  only free rolls to start , after about  aweek of playing free rolls and not playing for cash or putting cash in a started havin connection problems phone customer service and tried to explain my situation  got the usual responce ect ect yeh then enter a free roll and get this for 1 hour every player on my table folded every hand to me every hand i culd bet with any 2 cards no 1 called all folded every time  and i mean i played every hand from the start and no 1 was  playing back very dodgy just take a minuet to think about what iam saying  i played and won EVERY HAND FOR THE FIRST HOUR NO 1  PLAYED BACK   so at the break being new to poker and the site i phone customer service and explained the situation , this is what they said ,we have no control over the players and its up to them wether they play their hands or fold and that i should b happy that they were all folding yeh right i thought that they was a problem with the software an it had tripped out but i was told that it was working fine and there was no problem, it felt  like i was being sent to coventry by my fellow players this was madness . so i just logged out still had loads of chips but whats the point in playin if no 1 plays back at you , never been back to that site and never will , i now play mostlly on willhill had a few good wins  biggest 1 being £2500  biggest loss was nearly £700 on 1 hand i had fullhouse he had str8 flush river card was a 9 of spades making my fullhouse 9s full of 5s the 9 of spades made his st8 flush this was the day after i won the £2500 had loads of bad beats since and some good 1s to but to put it in a nutshell  no 1 will ever prove sites r fixed  but do i think they can be ?  its  a computer program an humans program it where cash is involved in anything in life b it poker or bank loans  or anything  2 do with cash people will always try to steal its human nature just look at our mps  claiming and  getting  away with it  i also play live and had some final tables  at my local casino but back to sites being fixed  i would like to think no but after my experience on 888  who knows  all that i will say is that bad beats happen the game would b rubbish    without them and would be no good at all  poker is a game of luck and skill  and you need both to win anything  so keep at it and hopefully  we will all win some cash good luck all at the tables  every 1
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  • TaxicabTaxicab
    edited July 2009
    Hello,
    firstly i would like to quote this from Rich "Sky Poker, Bingo and Casino are licensed and regulated by the Alderney Gambling Control Commission, (www.gamblingcontrol.org) and Sky Bet is licensed and regulated by the UK Gambling Commission (www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk)." - This leads me to ask, why is the whole lot not regulated by the "UK Gambling Commission" ?? Aldereny operate out of these rules and make their own up? 

    And from a friend who posted  "It might just be me being stupid but, i just cant see the point of sky fixing any game. Why would they care who wins a hand?, they get their rake or buy in fee no matter who wins. i just dont see any reason why they would want to pick a specific winner or loser?"  - Well i can easily believe that Skybet could fix games against people like me who think they are frauds, they maybe want to teach us not to?  Well i will keep posting what bad luck ive had in a short period of time to warn others...i sadly trust them "not in the slightest"
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  • TaxicabTaxicab
    edited July 2009
    ...in tourneys its as if the rubbish players lead a charmed life to keep them in with
    as gooda chance of winning as anyone here.  Regularly i go all in with the best
    hand and what calls and wins is a hand your average novice would know to fold.
    I think im disliked more, and they give lesser players a chance by playing God.
    AK vs KQ = KQ, A8 vs A5 = A5 i could go on and on, gutshot straights hit despite
    putting there tourney in jeopardy to all in (me infront obviously.)  If maths says im 60/70%
    to win all in, i have honestly won way less than half of those hands over 6 months.
    Answers on a postcard as to whether its legit 100% here, for a million quid for a correct
    answer only, i bet on this place is run by rats.
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  • UnknownUnknown
    edited July 2009
    can anyone explain why uk poker sites, and not just sky, are not licensed by the uk gambling commission, but off shore commissions.
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  • its-a-fixits-a-fix
    edited July 2009

    sorry about the name no pun intended.if it were a fix ther would need to b a heel of a lot of people involved we all go thro good n bad patches{me mostly bad] ME BADSPELLER ALSOO The reason for the name was on my last site it was all i heardso i picked it to annoy people when i river them

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