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The Mogul Thread Is No More. :/

El_MogulEl_Mogul
edited April 2013 in Poker Chat
GL sir will follow. Post some hands into the clinic if you want some expert analysis from Greghogg
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  • El_MogulEl_Mogul
    edited April 2013
    Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii guys.

    Been dabbling now and then on Sky Poker again recently (after not playing on the site primarily due to university) and really want to improve my cash game! It is dire! I'm successful at SnGs and Tourneys but am a losing cash player. I've never been good at it and it's always been my Achille's heel, my kryptonite.

    Soooo I'm gonna start this thread thing. It won't be a diary as such but more of a blog which I'll update now and again. 

    Have a BR of £70 at the minute so I'm just going to be playing 2p/4p. Hopefully I won't lose the lot and I'll be able to progress. That's the plan anyway!

    Hope you guys will enjoy and any advice will be great! 


    Mogul

    :)
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  • Lambert180Lambert180
    edited April 2013
    Welcome back, aint seen you round the forums for ages.

    Good Luck!
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  • El_MogulEl_Mogul
    edited April 2013
    In Response to Re: Money Pit to Cash Cow - El Mogul:
    GL sir will follow. Post some hands into the clinic if you want some expert analysis from Greghogg
    Posted by percival09
    Cheers mate. :)
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  • El_MogulEl_Mogul
    edited April 2013
    In Response to Re: Money Pit to Cash Cow - El Mogul:
    Welcome back, aint seen you round the forums for ages. Good Luck!
    Posted by Lambert180
    Yeah, been busy with uni and have needed the money etc. And thanks. :)
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  • El_MogulEl_Mogul
    edited April 2013
    Update No. 1

    After a loooooooooooooooong session tonight I am up like 2 quid something? Which is a great win in my book because not only am I finishing a cash session positive but I also came back from an massive initial loss of around 2.5 buy-ins. 

    So so far... so good! :)

    BR: £72.91

    Mogul
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  • El_MogulEl_Mogul
    edited April 2013
    Update No. 2

    Amazingly I'm doing well (touch wood!). Had a session this afternoon which didn't go too well (loss of around £2) but have just finished snother session now in which I made around £10. Happy with my play and didn't get any beats (at least, none that I can think of)!

    No hands to post at the minute as I feel there aren't any that I'm not sure about.

    BR: £80.45

    Mogul
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  • El_MogulEl_Mogul
    edited April 2013
    Disasterous sesh. Will post hands tomorrow... if anyone's following.
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  • LARSON7LARSON7
    edited April 2013
    Swings and round abouts mate, just stick at it and find out what works for your.

    There was a hand last night where you have KJ, on a Jack high board, some bet out strong and you called them all the way even once they were all in. If you see a lot of aggression at 2p 4p most times players are not at it, they have the goods, against a lot of aggression top pair good kicker is hardly ever good.

    Good luck!
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  • El_MogulEl_Mogul
    edited April 2013
    In Response to Re: Money Pit to Cash Cow - El Mogul:
    Swings and round abouts mate, just stick at it and find out what works for your. There was a hand last night where you have KJ, on a Jack high board, some bet out strong and you called them all the way even once they were all in. If you see a lot of aggression at 2p 4p most times players are not at it, they have the goods, against a lot of aggression top pair good kicker is hardly ever good. Good luck!
    Posted by LARSON7
    Poker right? :P 
    Yeah I'm gonna stick at it... Will try to learn from my mistakes and all that!
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  • El_MogulEl_Mogul
    edited April 2013
    Update No. 3

    Soooooo yeah, disasterous sesh last night. Lost around 2.5 Buy-ins. Mixture of (IMO) playing a tad badly and getting unlucky.

    As soon as I lost the last big hand of the sesh I just wanted to quit and withdraw my money. Get this feeling a lot when I lose quite a bit. Anyone else get that?

    BR: £69.37

    Mogul
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  • El_MogulEl_Mogul
    edited April 2013
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       El_MogulAll-in£2.30£8.98£0.00gmanoneCall£2.30£11.28£0.09El_MogulShow
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       gmanoneWinTwo Pairs, Aces and 2s£10.43£10.52
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  • El_MogulEl_Mogul
    edited April 2013
    In Response to Re: Money Pit to Cash Cow - El Mogul:
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceEl_MogulSmall blind£0.02£0.02£4.82TINTINBig blind£0.04£0.06£7.92 Your hole cards https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/spade.gif '); display: block; border: 1px solid #9bc3e5; width: 15px; text-align: center; font-size: 0.9em; background-position: 1px 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat" class="spade">K https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/club.gif '); display: block; border: 1px solid #9bc3e5; width: 15px; text-align: center; font-size: 0.9em; background-position: 1px 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat" class="club">A    HousCatCall£0.04£0.10£0.86ArfurDaleyCall£0.04£0.14£3.90gmanoneCall£0.04£0.18£4.89 https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/hhdealer.gif '); background-color: transparent; background-position: 100% 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat" class="dealer">Ky11arRaise£0.20£0.38£4.60El_MogulRaise£0.60£0.98£4.22TINTINFoldHousCatCall£0.58£1.56£0.28ArfurDaleyFoldgmanoneCall£0.58£2.14£4.31Ky11arCall£0.42£2.56£4.18Flop   https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/diamond.gif '); display: block; border: 1px solid #9bc3e5; width: 15px; text-align: center; font-size: 0.9em; background-position: 1px 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat" class="diamond">2 https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/heart.gif '); display: block; border: 1px solid #9bc3e5; width: 15px; text-align: center; font-size: 0.9em; background-position: 1px 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat" class="heart">3 https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/heart.gif '); display: block; border: 1px solid #9bc3e5; width: 15px; text-align: center; font-size: 0.9em; background-position: 1px 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat" class="heart">A    El_MogulBet£1.92£4.48£2.30HousCatAll-in£0.28£4.76£0.00gmanoneCall£1.92£6.68£2.39Ky11arFoldTurn   https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/club.gif '); display: block; border: 1px solid #9bc3e5; width: 15px; text-align: center; font-size: 0.9em; background-position: 1px 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat" class="club">8    El_MogulAll-in£2.30£8.98£0.00gmanoneCall£2.30£11.28£0.09El_MogulShow https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/spade.gif '); display: block; border: 1px solid #9bc3e5; width: 15px; text-align: center; font-size: 0.9em; background-position: 1px 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat" class="spade">K https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/club.gif '); display: block; border: 1px solid #9bc3e5; width: 15px; text-align: center; font-size: 0.9em; background-position: 1px 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat" class="club">A HousCatShow https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/spade.gif '); display: block; border: 1px solid #9bc3e5; width: 15px; text-align: center; font-size: 0.9em; background-position: 1px 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat" class="spade">A https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/club.gif '); display: block; border: 1px solid #9bc3e5; width: 15px; text-align: center; font-size: 0.9em; background-position: 1px 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat" class="club">5 gmanoneShow https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/diamond.gif '); display: block; border: 1px solid #9bc3e5; width: 15px; text-align: center; font-size: 0.9em; background-position: 1px 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat" class="diamond">A https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/club.gif '); display: block; border: 1px solid #9bc3e5; width: 15px; text-align: center; font-size: 0.9em; background-position: 1px 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat" class="club">2 River   https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/club.gif '); display: block; border: 1px solid #9bc3e5; width: 15px; text-align: center; font-size: 0.9em; background-position: 1px 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat" class="club">J    gmanoneWinTwo Pairs, Aces and 2s£10.43£10.52
    Posted by El_Mogul

    Okay, someone tell me how to post hand IDs again? Haven't dont it in a looong time haha.

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  • Lambert180Lambert180
    edited April 2013
    Make sure you're using the browser and not the download client when viewing the hand history.

    Go to the 'My Sky Poker' tab at the top, click on Hand History, find it and just copy and paste it from there.

    You only get issues if you're copying and pasting it from the download client or if you're copying it from the HH that you can view while at the table.
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  • El_MogulEl_Mogul
    edited April 2013
    Update No. 4

    I've thrown in the towel!

    Played quite a bit of cash the other day... Didn't do too bad during the day but in the night I lost like 2.5 BIs in like, half an hour (yes, I was playing shocking and I was tired). Soooo I've had enough. Cash is just too stressful for me!

    So yesterday I went back to what I know best and played some SnG - Turbo HU to be exact. Played quite a few games over the course of a few hours (All £2.10 stakes) and managed to make a decent profit of around £18.

    So I'm gonna stay away from cash for a while and focus on SnGs and tournies (which, results will show, I'm better at).

    I'm gonna keep this thread going though as I like to write (and hopefully some of you will find it interesting).

    BR: £82.11

    Mogul


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  • SlykllistSlykllist
    edited April 2013
    Sounds all too familiar to me, I've tried a few time to transition from MTT's to cash but always end up reverting to type.  I'm beginning to think that playing 100bb deep is just not for me as my mentality from playing MTT's is to play for the win which means I'm not scared to risk my stack in order to put myself in a position to win a tournament, however when I do this playing cash I just stack off way too often and don't manage to balance this with doubling up on other occaisions!
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  • HITMAN_RVHITMAN_RV
    edited April 2013
    GL Mogul !!  MTT's FTW!!!

    Cash is a peculiar medium to those who have learnt via MTT's!!

    Does not seem to happen other way round....Weird!


    In my limited experiance, quite a few Hungry Sharks swim around the Cash Tables eating up the Good Bad & Ugly MTT ...& Cash Players!!

    This is Why Table Selection IS SO IMPORTANT, something the MTT'ers does put enough emphasis on when making any transition!!

    Hope to See you in Mon's DTD fa Tha Squad soon!!

    GL
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  • El_MogulEl_Mogul
    edited April 2013
    In Response to Re: The Mogul Thread:
    Sounds all too familiar to me, I've tried a few time to transition from MTT's to cash but always end up reverting to type.  I'm beginning to think that playing 100bb deep is just not for me as my mentality from playing MTT's is to play for the win which means I'm not scared to risk my stack in order to put myself in a position to win a tournament, however when I do this playing cash I just stack off way too often and don't manage to balance this with doubling up on other occaisions!
    Posted by Slykllist
    Exactly! Pretty much hit the nail on the head there. Just don't think I'm built for cash. :P

    Mogul
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  • El_MogulEl_Mogul
    edited April 2013
    In Response to Re: The Mogul Thread:
    GL Mogul !!  MTT's FTW!!! Cash is a peculiar medium to those who have learnt via MTT's!! Does not seem to happen other way round....Weird! In my limited experiance, quite a few Hungry Sharks swim around the Cash Tables eating up the Good Bad & Ugly MTT ...& Cash Players!! This is Why Table Selection IS SO IMPORTANT, something the MTT'ers does put enough emphasis on when making any transition!! Hope to See you in Mon's DTD fa Tha Squad soon!! GL
    Posted by HITMAN_RV
    Yeah, MTTs and SnGs are the way forward with me. :P Just cannot get on with cash.

    Doubt I'll be playing on Monday... back in uni and all that.

    Mogul
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  • El_MogulEl_Mogul
    edited April 2013
    Update No. 5

    Had a great session earlier on in the day playing HU Turbos - made about £12 in an hour, so was up to roughly £94. Played 3 tournies (2 £2 BHs and 1 £5 BH) in the evening though which didn't go so well. The cards just weren't going my way; don't think I even got any premiums in any of the 3! Managed to get a bounty but that only softened tonight blow.

    Finished tonight by playing a few more HU Turbos. Nothing great this time; I actually lost a bit but it's nothing major.

    Hollistically though, I'm up 27p on the day. WIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!

    BR: £82.38

    Mogul
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  • El_MogulEl_Mogul
    edited April 2013
    Update No. 6

    Standard update this time.

    Just played an hour of HU Turbos (£2 ones) and made a profit of around £8. Not sure if I'll be playing later as I have quite a few things to do, but yeah... a decent hour all-in-all. :)

    BR: £90.48

    Mogul
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  • El_MogulEl_Mogul
    edited April 2013
    Just found £25. Now that's value! Tehe...
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  • El_MogulEl_Mogul
    edited April 2013
    Update No.7 

    Just come off a 2 hour sesh and I've broken the £100 barrier! Woooooo...

    Played HU Turbos (£2.20) for those 2 hours and made a tidy profit of around £24. Added to todays earlier sesh that's a total profit of around £32 for today.

    Totally happy with the way I played and i think luck may have been on my side quite a bit tonight as well (although I did receive a few beats of my own now and then).

    BR: £114.68

    Mogul
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  • El_MogulEl_Mogul
    edited April 2013
    Update No. 8

    Okaaaay so didn't play yesterday due to moving back into my uni accommodation. Just played an hour now. Not a great sesh but could have been worse. Was slightly on the worse side of variance and I'm feeling quite tired anyway so that probably didn't help. Was going to play the DTD but not sure now 'cause like I said I'm feeling quite tired. Decisions...........

    BR: £107.18

    Mogul
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  • El_MogulEl_Mogul
    edited April 2013
    Had a bit of tea and have more energy so playing the DTDs.

    And why no one posting on my fwed?! :'(
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  • El_MogulEl_Mogul
    edited April 2013
    Update 9

    Played in the DTDs. Only cashed in the one and came 3rd (£34 cash) which I am happy with but I was really hoping to come third as I came third last time I cashed big in a DTD! Ahhh oh well. Happy with my play anyway... even if I did get maybe a bit too aggro during the middle stages, which saw my stack go up and down quite a bit.

    Another successful day (at least, in tournies). :)

    BR: £135.68

    Mogul
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  • LARSON7LARSON7
    edited April 2013

    Dtd? lol

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  • El_MogulEl_Mogul
    edited April 2013
    In Response to Re: The Mogul Thread:
    Dtd? lol
    Posted by LARSON7
    Forum DTD. :P The 2 tournaments that rin on a monday.
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  • LARSON7LARSON7
    edited April 2013
    Nice1, nice score! You are doing brilliant mate, clearly a winning HU and Tournie player.

    When you started this you were talking about playing cash, could you not mix it up, keep with the above to and add in a bit of cash 2?
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  • El_MogulEl_Mogul
    edited April 2013
    In Response to Re: The Mogul Thread:
    Nice1, nice score! You are doing brilliant mate, clearly a winning HU and Tournie player. When you started this you were talking about playing cash, could you not mix it up, keep with the above to and add in a bit of cash 2?
    Posted by LARSON7
    TY! Yeah... I fail at cash. :P If I get to a bigger bankroll and don't mind losing a bit then I'll give cash another dabble but for now I'm sticking with the SnGs and the tournies. :)
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  • bbMikebbMike
    edited April 2013
    Must admit I was delighted when you two went at it there, very unlucky to find him with KK against your AJss three-way. I had a smattering of interest with my rag ace til it got 4-bet! VWP tonight though.
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