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Why play on the cash tables when you do everything by the book and still get called by the donks.
I have decided to give up playing on the cash tables.
I do everything by the book. Only play the big hands. Put in the correct size bets and raises.
But still get called by the donks who manage to hit every time.
Mastercash is a great programme and I watch it every week to learn how to play the cash tables correctly, unfortunately the donks don't watch the program and will still call with any two no matter how you play your hand.
Never again will you see me on the cash tables.
I do everything by the book. Only play the big hands. Put in the correct size bets and raises.
But still get called by the donks who manage to hit every time.
Mastercash is a great programme and I watch it every week to learn how to play the cash tables correctly, unfortunately the donks don't watch the program and will still call with any two no matter how you play your hand.
Never again will you see me on the cash tables.
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Only play people who are at a similar level or better than us.
That way our profits will riseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Cah is different to tournys, u cannot play "by the book" every hand is an event! theres no "correct way" to play any 2 cards! its like the warzone of poker, once u enter, stand up n be counted, or die!!!!!
throw ur instruction manual out the window, adapt or collapse!
DOHH
I don't play cash myself, but am fascinated by the strategy involved and have watched plenty of it at all stakes and levels.
As far as I can tell, it's far more common to play loose and raggy hands down the streets in cash compared to tournaments. So only playing big hands with "correct" size bets and raises is not I think an optimal strategy in cash.
I sit and watch a cash table for about 15 minutes before I play to work out the players and after I join they seem to change there play and go fishy. I cannot work out the reasoning behind the play of some players.
2p 4p cash table. Tonight I had KK on the button, three players limped, I raised it up 4 x BB and got 3 callers.
Flop came 9 5 Q rainbow, Checked round to me, I bet 3/4 pot and get one caller. Turn comes a 7 non flushing. I bet all-in for £2.22 and get the call. He turns over 9 5 os. What was he doing calling my raise in the 1st place.
I had not played any hands for about 2 rounds as I am a tight player.
The point I was trying to make is that cash game play,is so much more creative and personality based than tourny, theres ALWAYS an optimum play in a tourny, in cash u can 4 bet with 23 suited....n can flat call A 3 bet with AA, theres so many options! its great fun, and if u can make it pay, even better!
DOHH
SEEMS TO ME UR PLAYING BELOW UR SKILL LEVEL, SORRY BOUT CAPS JUST REALISED BUT CNT BE BOTHERED TO DELETE IT N TYPE IT AGAIN. LOL. ADJUST UR RAISe size according to who ur playing against. an overbet is a good move at lower levels, gl, Its one of those things i cnt rly help u with, u will suss it out for urself n just get a feel for it!
DOHH
But yeah maybe cash isn't suited to your skill set. If you have a good record at DYMs stick to them.
You used to win but now its full of donks uve quit? course!
GL bullying the small stakes players!
Who u tryin 2 kid?
DOHH
I dnt understand why u wud quit when the tables have become full of donks? Unless being a donk is now a compliment?
When you get the goods, bet and bet hard.
Make them pay for their draws
Im not saying ur wrong at all! Im just amazed u see this as a negative? lol Surely its all in ur favour, tighten up, n let the money come to u, rather than having to work for the money! I think ya crackers for giving it up especially if ur a compatent player, as u must be to have been playing at quid 2 quid!
More donks the better, easy money! (btw Im one!) Ill bet 70 quid to see if u can fold ya top pair !
lol
DOHH
I really dont understand this post. Surely you want cash tables flooded with lucksters. The more the merrier. The bottom line starts hurting when they start learning.
btw, how long were you playing for. how many tables and hours etc is this sample. It is impossible to lose here at these stakes if you are playing abc by the book and using correct bet sizes.
Maybe you just didnt play for long enough to iron out the variance
cash poker is totally different to tourney poker and hands such as 45, 78 etc are not such a disadvantage to the premium hands and i will call or re-raise all day long with them against players who i consider 'rocks' like yourself (and yeah i will get called a fish lol) and see a flop, and then choose to get involved or not depending on whether i hit a big hand or have a draw to a big hand! sure mostly the flop will miss me and i can let the hand go for a small price, however when i do make a hand i can then aim to take your whole stack which could be a monstrous payoff for a small investment!!...remember in cash poker big pots are won when big hands collide ie fullhouse, flushes,straights, trips....(how many of these normally come from premium starting hands?)...a good player in a cash game does not wait for premium hands, he can play more hands and some of these hands will be the so called weak hands which by many would be routinely dumped in the muck!
obviously your not throwing away a pair of kings or AK before the flop but you MUST mix your good hands with an astute selection of other hands (10-9 offsuit, 7-5 suited, four-trey offsuit etc etc) not only are these hands not as weak as they appear but they are infact the hands which will most likely win your opponents whole stack!!...
i honestly hope this makes sense lol because like i said im drunk! but i just wanted to put my point across...
Andy
Just play ABC poker.
like u say ur drunk, online line play (in my experiene) requires a little patience,( even if its playin 3 hands every half hour.... the very few cash games i've played, need you to play with the of the flop and then make a decision,,, might seem the the same .. but in reality totally diferent
This could well be the case.
$1/$2 level is certainly not full of fish and lucksters these days.
I see 2p/4p tables which regularly have 5 or 6 people seeing the flop. This is a very hard level to play against as the game just becomes luck based. Although i have not played at the higher levels i assume that the pure luck based play is not as rife and poker skill(which i do not possess at the cash game) will come more into play.
Okay Fitzer I fully understand your point about enjoying the game. Thats what it's all about I suppose, I hate low stakes games as I don't enjoy them, and end up donking off just to get out of them! So I do see where your coming from.
If playing bigger stakes has the same effect on you, then it could become alot more expensive.
You're gettin abit of resistance from a few people throughout this thread, but I do understand what ya mean now.
GL, DOHH
2p/4p is not hard to play as you dont need to get reads on people or put them on hands. You just need to play ur own cards, bet big hands strong, never bluff and you are a guaranteed winner here. Making your standard opening raises 5 or 6x bb should cut down on players per flop. If it doesnt, then make your raises bigger.