The September diary

calcalfold

Been lacking motivation since withdrawing most of my roll, I have now withdrawn down to £40 and will be logging one months play in an attempt to be accountable to myself and recapture a structured playing schedule to take forward into the winter.

First session tonight.

No more football betting and no more tourneys (excluding freerolls) for me. A pure 4nl month.

LARSON7

Good luck, look forward to hearing how you do.

Will be an interesting read.

calcalfold

Cheers Larson,

I think the frequency that our buddy Dave plays could see my returns swing around 25% either way.

Jac35

Lol

I was just going to set you a challenge for the month and then I read your last post.

I fear it will be impossible.

To go alongside the September 4nl grind, you also have to avoid being critical or mocking of other players.

Seriously, I feel you offer some really good advice to people. The trouble is, is that it is often missed as people understandably pick up more on the more unpleasant things you post.

calcalfold

Jac,

Totally agree about the mocking, being critical can be okay depending on how it is presented, ie is it constructive.

I think I just need to give my advice and leave it there. I admit I dont have all the answers - far from it indeed, and also realise that my expertise is 4nl cash and nothing more. Its just when I am sure of myself I have trouble just leaving it at the one post and get drawn into the mocking mode. Acerags thread in BBV being a prime example.

Feel free to PM me when I am stepping the boundary, just yourself though, I am sure there is a limit on the inbox.

Jac35

Just seen that thread.

Hmmm, I think it's okay for me to let that one go.

hhyftrftdr

Must resist urge to drop down to 4nl and bust you

calcalfold

Keep dreaming

4nl is my domain

hhyftrftdr

In Response to Re: The September diary:

Keep dreaming 4nl is my domain
Posted by calcalfold

Didn't fancy it then?

calcalfold

??

hhyftrftdr

You know what. Disappointed that the 4nl 'don' would leave almost immediately. 

Nevermind.

calcalfold

I start a session with a lot of tables, and close down those with the (relative) better players until I have about 5 tables I am happy with.

Why would I waste time sitting with (semi) competent regs?

Although If you think the sole reason I moved was just because of one player (ie yourself), then your deluded.

A "don" by my definition makes the best decisions to give the most +ve situations. Doesnt let ego tell him to go toe to toe with ok players. I try and iso the droolers and have no shame in admitting it.

hhyftrftdr

We both know the truth CCF

I was only coming to give your b/r a boost anyway. Surprised you turned down that opportunity. Twice.

calcalfold

I know enough to realise that your going to be better than most of the other 4nlers.

KK, not even sure why I shoved so soon, dont usually do that.

Note to self, stop pot betting and mix it up

Upon review I think I butchered a lot of these spots.

Up a few quid overall

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
mrgarcia1	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£4.19
calcalfold	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£7.56
	Your hole cards	K K
Sammi1	Fold
Superman_	Raise		£0.12	£0.18	£4.10
rennn7	Call		£0.12	£0.30	£2.45
mrgarcia1	Call		£0.10	£0.40	£4.09
calcalfold	Raise		£0.56	£0.96	£7.00
Superman_	Fold
rennn7	Call		£0.48	£1.44	£1.97
mrgarcia1	Call		£0.48	£1.92	£3.61
Flop
		Q 4 10
mrgarcia1	Check
calcalfold	Bet		£2.00	£3.92	£5.00
rennn7	All-in		£1.97	£5.89	£0.00
mrgarcia1	Fold
calcalfold	Unmatched bet		£0.03	£5.86	£5.03
calcalfold	Show	K K
rennn7	Show	Q Q
Turn
		7
River
		4
rennn7	Win	Full House, Queens and 4s	£5.42		£5.42

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Superman_	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£5.44
archwiz28	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£5.39
chinared	Ante		£0.02	£0.08	£5.64
	Your hole cards	A A
bobby8787	Call		£0.04	£0.12	£3.59
calcalfold	Raise		£0.20	£0.32	£3.85
chinared	Call		£0.20	£0.52	£5.44
angermoose	Fold
Superman_	Fold
archwiz28	Fold
bobby8787	Call		£0.16	£0.68	£3.43
Flop
		4 3 J
bobby8787	Check
calcalfold	Bet		£0.68	£1.36	£3.17
chinared	Raise		£1.40	£2.76	£4.04
bobby8787	Fold
calcalfold	All-in		£3.17	£5.93	£0.00
chinared	Call		£2.45	£8.38	£1.59
calcalfold	Show	A A
chinared	Show	3 3
Turn
		9
River
		2
chinared	Win	Three 3s	£7.75		£9.34

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
calcalfold	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£5.30
Initfun	Sitout
Superman_	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£5.47
	Your hole cards	K K
MisterK22	Raise		£0.16	£0.22	£2.24
calcalfold	All-in		£5.30	£5.52	£0.00
Superman_	Fold
MisterK22	All-in		£2.24	£7.76	£0.00
calcalfold	Unmatched bet		£2.92	£4.84	£2.92
calcalfold	Show	K K
MisterK22	Show	A K
Flop
		J 9 8
Turn
		Q
River
		4
calcalfold	Win	Pair of Kings	£4.47		£7.39

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
jinder	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£2.95
emad1960	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£2.42
	Your hole cards	K 9
CrystalLee	Fold
calcalfold	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£4.07
Loderingo	Fold
jinder	Call		£0.02	£0.12	£2.93
emad1960	Check
Flop
		2 5 4
jinder	Check
emad1960	Check
calcalfold	Bet		£0.09	£0.21	£3.98
jinder	Call		£0.09	£0.30	£2.84
emad1960	Call		£0.09	£0.39	£2.33
Turn
		6
jinder	Check
emad1960	Check
calcalfold	Bet		£0.39	£0.78	£3.59
jinder	Call		£0.39	£1.17	£2.45
emad1960	Fold
River
		2
jinder	Check
calcalfold	Bet		£1.17	£2.34	£2.42
jinder	Call		£1.17	£3.51	£1.28
calcalfold	Show	K 9
jinder	Muck	7 8
calcalfold	Win	Flush to the King	£3.24		£5.66

SHANXTA

first 3 are super standard

but why are you open limping K9s?

F_Ivanovic

In Response to Re: The September diary:

first 3 are super standard but why are you open limping K9s?
Posted by SHANXTA

Cause it's 4NL and Ks cards play well multi-way because you can often get someone's stack if you flop a flush...

calcalfold

For the reason Ivanovic gave, I will limp Kxsuited on the button and one before. So many times pots are limped its not going to cost me much. And i back myself to get away from it when I hit air.

Lambert180

1) It's a bad habit to get into
2) You win a bigger pot when you both miss, and take it down with a cbet
3) You win a bigger pot when you hit a hand and can start value betting
4) You can steal the blinds which is often underrated in cash

rancid

open limping is bad, smack yo self


maybe I will hit big = all nl4 players


= u

calcalfold

.

calcalfold

Rubbish sky formatting

LARSON7

Has your fave player been on? Not seen him in a while

calcalfold

Hey mate, no not a bean

Roll up to about £56

A couple from tonight, Good variance returning. Had a poor few days at cash.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
dgw69	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.83
NoChicken	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.32
	Your hole cards	Q J
calcalfold	Raise		£0.08	£0.14	£3.93
JINTY	Call		£0.08	£0.22	£15.29
Rocinante	Call		£0.08	£0.30	£6.17
dgw69	Fold
NoChicken	Call		£0.04	£0.34	£3.28
Flop
		K 10 9
NoChicken	Bet		£0.04	£0.38	£3.24
calcalfold	Raise		£0.25	£0.63	£3.68
JINTY	Fold
Rocinante	Call		£0.25	£0.88	£5.92
NoChicken	Raise		£1.03	£1.91	£2.21
calcalfold	Call		£0.82	£2.73	£2.86
Rocinante	Fold
Turn
		Q
NoChicken	All-in		£2.21	£4.94	£0.00
calcalfold	Call		£2.21	£7.15	£0.65
NoChicken	Show	7 K
calcalfold	Show	Q J
River
		6
calcalfold	Win	Straight to the King	£6.61		£7.26

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
45ten	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£7.94
trout6	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.63
	Your hole cards	J A
DavaBear	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£1.20
calcalfold	Raise		£0.16	£0.26	£3.88
DogWalker1	Fold
45ten	Fold
trout6	Fold
DavaBear	Call		£0.12	£0.38	£1.08
Flop
		10 4 K
DavaBear	Check
calcalfold	Bet		£0.19	£0.57	£3.69
DavaBear	Call		£0.19	£0.76	£0.89
Turn
		Q
DavaBear	Check
calcalfold	Bet		£0.57	£1.33	£3.12
DavaBear	All-in		£0.89	£2.22	£0.00
calcalfold	Call		£0.32	£2.54	£2.80
DavaBear	Show	J 9
calcalfold	Show	J A
River
		2
calcalfold	Win	Straight to the Ace	£2.34		£5.14

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
FurbyYy	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£1.51
calcalfold	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.93
	Your hole cards	K A
JORDAN40	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£2.88
tlsmaste19	Raise		£0.08	£0.18	£1.86
wilfilson1	Fold
FurbyYy	Fold
calcalfold	Raise		£0.20	£0.38	£4.73
JORDAN40	Fold
tlsmaste19	All-in		£1.86	£2.24	£0.00
calcalfold	Call		£1.70	£3.94	£3.03
calcalfold	Show	K A
tlsmaste19	Show	2 2
Flop
		K 4 Q
Turn
		7
River
		4
calcalfold	Win	Two Pairs, Kings and 4s	£3.64		£6.67

LARSON7

Nice1 going well, good jump in the last few days.

calcalfold

First big hand of the day

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Qpidstunt	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£4.97
rosieP23	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£2.24
	Your hole cards	K A
calcalfold	Raise		£0.20	£0.26	£3.80
hotangel12	Call		£0.20	£0.46	£6.13
DIEZELDEN	Call		£0.20	£0.66	£2.08
paddo69	Call		£0.20	£0.86	£3.57
Qpidstunt	Fold
rosieP23	Fold
Flop
		10 J Q
calcalfold	Bet		£0.43	£1.29	£3.37
hotangel12	Call		£0.43	£1.72	£5.70
DIEZELDEN	Call		£0.43	£2.15	£1.65
paddo69	Fold
Turn
		Q
calcalfold	Bet		£1.36	£3.51	£2.01
hotangel12	Fold
DIEZELDEN	Call		£1.36	£4.87	£0.29
River
		J
calcalfold	Bet		£0.32	£5.19	£1.69
DIEZELDEN	All-in		£0.29	£5.48	£0.00
calcalfold	Unmatched bet		£0.03	£5.45	£1.72
calcalfold	Show	K A
DIEZELDEN	Show	2 Q
DIEZELDEN	Win	Full House, Queens and Jacks	£5.04		£5.04

calcalfold

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Creamegg	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£6.75
calcalfold	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.88
EVsucks	Sit out
	Your hole cards	K Q
azumi	Fold
nuk_em	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£7.85
jasp3315	Fold
Creamegg	Call		£0.02	£0.12	£6.73
calcalfold	Raise		£0.12	£0.24	£3.76
nuk_em	Call		£0.12	£0.36	£7.73
Creamegg	Call		£0.12	£0.48	£6.61
Flop
		3 10 7
Creamegg	Check
calcalfold	Bet		£0.20	£0.68	£3.56
nuk_em	Call		£0.20	£0.88	£7.53
Creamegg	Call		£0.20	£1.08	£6.41
Turn
		4
Creamegg	Check
calcalfold	Bet		£0.54	£1.62	£3.02
nuk_em	Fold
Creamegg	All-in		£6.41	£8.03	£0.00
calcalfold	All-in		£3.02	£11.05	£0.00
Creamegg	Unmatched bet		£2.85	£8.20	£2.85
Creamegg	Show	6 A
calcalfold	Show	K Q
River
		7
Creamegg	Win	Flush to the Ace	£7.58		£10.43

calcalfold

However there were good hands

Roll up to just over £70

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
duke996	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£4.16
calcalfold	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.69
	Your hole cards	5 5
Pete_hall	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£3.52
geoo	Call		£0.04	£0.14	£5.29
lefthandluke	Fold
888com19	Call		£0.04	£0.18	£2.41
duke996	Call		£0.02	£0.20	£4.14
calcalfold	Raise		£0.04	£0.24	£4.65
Pete_hall	Call		£0.04	£0.28	£3.48
geoo	Call		£0.04	£0.32	£5.25
888com19	Call		£0.04	£0.36	£2.37
duke996	Call		£0.04	£0.40	£4.10
Flop
		3 8 5
duke996	Check
calcalfold	Bet		£0.30	£0.70	£4.35
Pete_hall	Call		£0.30	£1.00	£3.18
geoo	Fold
888com19	Fold
duke996	Call		£0.30	£1.30	£3.80
Turn
		8
duke996	Check
calcalfold	Bet		£0.40	£1.70	£3.95
Pete_hall	Call		£0.40	£2.10	£2.78
duke996	Call		£0.40	£2.50	£3.40
River
		4
duke996	Check
calcalfold	Bet		£0.40	£2.90	£3.55
Pete_hall	Raise		£0.80	£3.70	£1.98
duke996	Call		£0.80	£4.50	£2.60
calcalfold	All-in		£3.55	£8.05	£0.00
Pete_hall	All-in		£1.98	£10.03	£0.00
duke996	All-in		£2.60	£12.63	£0.00
calcalfold	Unmatched bet		£0.55	£12.08	£0.55
duke996	Show	7 6
calcalfold	Show	5 5
Pete_hall	Show	7 6
calcalfold	Win	Full House, 5s and 8s	£11.17		£11.72

hhyftrftdr

Some of your bet sizing baffles me.

calcalfold

Thanks for the insightful post.

For example?

hhyftrftdr

Minraise with 55 in the BB after 4 limpers. What are you trying to achieve with this?

Open raise with AK for 20p, yet only a 12p raise after 2 limpers with the KQs OOP.

calcalfold

Min raising small pps

Reasoning

Firstly I do sometimes make it 12 or 16p, and secondly there are a couple of other hands I will min with - so its not super exploitable.

I will generally do this when there are several players who are just not folding to bigger raises. I will flop the set a small % of the time, the range of calling hands at 4nl is so crazy wide that I am not able to assign ranges with much accuracy. I am happy just to make it a small raise and not waste much money for when I miss. The times I do hit, there are more players left in the pot to have also caught a bit of the flop - more players for me to have chance of stacking. Yes there are more people left to stack me, but I just acknowledge that take that risk.

The idea of min raising small pps being a leak was pointed out to me a while back, I took it on board and did a few weeks trial raising more. I did a hell of a lot worse than I did with my min raising. Before anybody chips up "this will be exploitable higher up" - Well, im not playing higher up am I!

I will 4xbb raise if a decent reg is the only player left in the hand pre and I can have more chance of them folding pre, or to a contin bet post.

Simple fact of the matter, at 4nl I do a lot better raising small pps small pre. Maybe because I am not good enough to assign ranges post and bet accordingly, or maybe I am playing 5 tables and cannot follow the dynamic of each table closely enough........ I just tend to make a habit of doing things that win me more ££ in the long run.

What do you mean OOP KQs, I am oop with AK as well, no real reasoning for bet sizing with the KQs 12p and 20p AK.