The September diary

hhyftrftdr

Not as such with regards to the last sentence. Whilst being UTG means you could well be OOP, you don't know this as you enter the hand. But being in the SB and raising, you know you'll definitely be OOP should you get a caller.

Fair enough for the reasoning, but you wouldn't click it back with QQ+, so I'd say your range is somewhat unbalanced should the table be paying attention. Which they won't be of course as it's 4l, but we should assume someone is alert to our moves.

SHANXTA

don't worry about being exploitable at 4nl, yeah sure you don't wanna get in to bad habits if you plan to move up, but you should be playing the best possible way to beat the games that you're in at the moment

don't min raise 55 after 4 limpers, it's pointless, and in general, I think you need to look at alot of your bet sizing. the 3bet with AK pre is way too small and then i'd day the raise pre with KQs is too small as well. also, why are you betting so small on the turn/river in the 55 hand with what is effectively the nut? you're playing in a game where people will call you down way too light and you don't seem like you wish to take advantage of this?

calcalfold

I would have thought the small bet on the turn was pretty obv.

I am betting small on the turn because I know (and mean know with 99% certainty) that at least one has a draw. This small bet allows them to chase cheaply (to a worse hand) or allows either one to bluff/semi bluff shove over the top. Perhaps I could have gone a little bigger, but if I was playing the hand again I would do pretty much the same.

The small bet on the river, this is where I was wrong at thought they were chasing to the flush. the small bet allows a missed flush to shove over bluffing, lets the 8 raise me, or lets a small pair call that would otherwise have folded to a 3/4 pot bet.

I covered the "pointless" min raise when replying to hhfhsfusifdhsfusdfdosbnfosdfs.

Roll now about £84

Peace

calcalfold

Enjoyed this one

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Pavillion	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£6.39
calcalfold	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.10
	Your hole cards	K K
pauln12017	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£2.33
shayler	Call		£0.04	£0.14	£2.58
Theredcat	Fold
Pavillion	Fold
calcalfold	Raise		£0.20	£0.34	£3.90
pauln12017	Fold
shayler	Call		£0.20	£0.54	£2.38
Flop
		K 6 6
calcalfold	Check
shayler	Check
Turn
		A
calcalfold	Bet		£0.54	£1.08	£3.36
shayler	Raise		£1.08	£2.16	£1.30
calcalfold	Raise		£1.08	£3.24	£2.28
shayler	All-in		£1.30	£4.54	£0.00
calcalfold	Raise		£1.52	£6.06	£0.76
calcalfold	Unmatched bet		£0.76	£5.30	£1.52
calcalfold	Show	K K
shayler	Show	2 6
River
		10
calcalfold	Win	Full House, Kings and 6s	£4.90		£6.42

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
FISHER13	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.29
calcalfold	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.96
goodbyeb01	Big blind		£0.04	£0.10	£1.16
	Your hole cards	4 8
GAZZER	Fold
TheRat1	Call		£0.04	£0.14	£1.01
goodbyeb01	Check
coup4m4	Call		£0.04	£0.18	£3.52
FISHER13	Call		£0.02	£0.20	£3.27
calcalfold	Check
Flop
		8 8 9
FISHER13	Check
calcalfold	Bet		£0.10	£0.30	£3.86
TheRat1	Call		£0.10	£0.40	£0.91
goodbyeb01	Fold
coup4m4	Call		£0.10	£0.50	£3.42
FISHER13	Call		£0.10	£0.60	£3.17
Turn
		K
FISHER13	Check
calcalfold	Bet		£0.32	£0.92	£3.54
TheRat1	Call		£0.32	£1.24	£0.59
coup4m4	Call		£0.32	£1.56	£3.10
FISHER13	Fold
River
		10
calcalfold	Check
TheRat1	Bet		£0.04	£1.60	£0.55
coup4m4	Call		£0.04	£1.64	£3.06
calcalfold	Raise		£0.32	£1.96	£3.22
TheRat1	Fold
coup4m4	Call		£0.28	£2.24	£2.78
calcalfold	Show	4 8
coup4m4	Muck	K 7
calcalfold	Win	Three 8s	£2.07		£5.29

Up £12 for the poker, but lost £12 on a footybet, nit at poker degen at sports betting,

Roll £81

Slow month

Jac35

A straight up question, no levels
You're quite comfortable with your game and make a profit at these stakes.
Why not move up?

LARSON7

Hey Calc!

Not seen your diary in a while, if you started from £30 nice going with the increase.

With your 5s hand, at the end of the day do what is right for you.

I would say generally i'd repop it pretty big to try and get it to heads up or just call (check) to set mine. Most times we are not going to hit our five, so with a good raise and a thinned field, we have a better chance of taking it down post flop when we don't hit the set. Playing it 5/6 way without our set/ straight draw, we are folding the majority of the time.

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Paul, I would say a lot of players play at this level because they win and play for fun. There's loads of decent/ winning players that play 4nl. CCF, Craig, Tintin, dabossman to name but a few

rancid

specially at nl4 m/r any hand is pretty pointless

with ya small prs your just inflating the pot for someone else
flops will go multiway = you don't hit sets enough of the time

m/r any value hand = multi way flops = less % chance of you winning

inlfating pots for the times that you hit is a pretty bad idea, cause you inflating them for the large % you don't hit

if you have the chance to see multi way flops for cheap at nl4 with implied hands then do so

essentially if no one folds pre then no need to inflate pot with weak holdings at nl4
if flop goes multi way the size of the pot is increaed anyway, so multi way flops bloat the pot anyway so if we do hit the flop hard the pot size is good

calcalfold

In Response to Re: The September diary:

A straight up question, no levels You're quite comfortable with your game and make a profit at these stakes. Why not move up?
Posted by Jac35

Well a couple of reasons really.

At this stage I would not be rolled to move up, might look at this in a few months though.

I did move up to 8nl (When I hit the 4 digit br I thought I should stop nitting it up) Had an amazing +ve first week (too good in fact) made about £250 in the week, then the second week was like a doom switch being flicked. Down about £175.

Found it a lot more stressfull in the numbers (obv only on the way down)

Didnt go any further than that as I withdrew most of my roll to fund a holiday - felt a lot nicer having other people pay for it rather than drawing it from my bank account savings.

And to be fair, im not that good at poker, the grand I made was just from implementing an understanding of basic maths.

Will see if I can grind a few hundred then re evaluate things.

BigHawk89

In Response to Re: The September diary:

In Response to Re: The September diary : Well a couple of reasons really. At this stage I would not be rolled to move up, might look at this in a few months though. I did move up to 8nl (When I hit the 4 digit br I thought I should stop nitting it up) Had an amazing +ve first week (too good in fact) made about £250 in the week, then the second week was like a doom switch being flicked. Down about £175. Found it a lot more stressfull in the numbers (obv only on the way down) Didnt go any further than that as I withdrew most of my roll to fund a holiday - felt a lot nicer having other people pay for it rather than drawing it from my bank account savings. And to be fair, im not that good at poker, the grand I made was just from implementing an understanding of basic maths. Will see if I can grind a few hundred then re evaluate things.
Posted by calcalfold

You had 1k bankroll playing 4/8nl?? Daaa what???

calcalfold

Well, got it up to £1k playing 4nl, was not really fussed about moving up. Personally no real need to make bigger money at 8nl/10/nl20nl etc.

It was (and still is) more like a pass time, some people play Fifa or cod, some people read books or DJ etc I just played/play 4nl - almost like a habit to the point it wasnt about the money, just outhinking other people (granted its not hard at 4nl)

Just realised at £1k I would have a pop at 8nl to see if I could beat it.

calcalfold

BR £93, take a look at hand 2, put yourself in villains shoes, what do you do to get away or how do you play this differently?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Krakerz	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£0.51
calcalfold	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.03
	Your hole cards	A A
splendid	Fold
T	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£2.30
jphagg30	Call		£0.04	£0.14	£2.03
bustout44	Fold
Krakerz	Fold
calcalfold	Raise		£0.20	£0.34	£3.83
T	Call		£0.20	£0.54	£2.10
jphagg30	Fold
Flop
		6 10 5
calcalfold	Bet		£0.41	£0.95	£3.42
T	Call		£0.41	£1.36	£1.69
Turn
		8
calcalfold	Bet		£1.16	£2.52	£2.26
T	All-in		£1.69	£4.21	£0.00
calcalfold	Call		£0.53	£4.74	£1.73
calcalfold	Show	A A
T	Show	5 4
River
		K
calcalfold	Win	Pair of Aces	£4.38		£6.11

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Missed	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.52
TheRat1	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.54
No_vice	Big blind		£0.04	£0.10	£2.36
simonhkr30	Big blind		£0.04	£0.14	£3.16
	Your hole cards	8 8
calcalfold	Raise		£0.16	£0.30	£3.75
No_vice	Fold
simonhkr30	Call		£0.12	£0.42	£3.04
m	Call		£0.16	£0.58	£5.47
Missed	Call		£0.14	£0.72	£3.38
TheRat1	Fold
Flop
		5 8 A
Missed	Check
calcalfold	Bet		£0.47	£1.19	£3.28
simonhkr30	Fold
m	Raise		£1.02	£2.21	£4.45
Missed	Fold
calcalfold	Raise		£1.32	£3.53	£1.96
m	Call		£0.77	£4.30	£3.68
Turn
		Q
calcalfold	All-in		£1.96	£6.26	£0.00
m	Call		£1.96	£8.22	£1.72
calcalfold	Show	8 8
m	Show	K A
River
		4
calcalfold	Win	Three 8s	£7.60		£7.60

hhyftrftdr

I wouldn't limp call with 5 high. Hand 2 difficult to put down though, esp at 4nl.

harding10

In Response to Re: The September diary:

Well, got it up to £1k playing 4nl, was not really fussed about moving up. Personally no real need to make bigger money at 8nl/10/nl20nl etc. It was (and still is) more like a pass time, some people play Fifa or cod, some people read books or DJ etc I just played/play 4nl - almost like a habit to the point it wasnt about the money, just outhinking other people (granted its not hard at 4nl) Just realised at £1k I would have a pop at 8nl to see if I could beat it.
Posted by calcalfold

You might have no need to make bigger money, but do you not get an urge to improve your own game rather than just play the mechanical stuff at nl4?

calcalfold

Nah not really, like back in the day of N64 Goldeneye etc

Completed it on easy, never had any desire to try medium or hard.

Jac35

In Response to Re: The September diary:

Nah not really, like back in the day of N64 Goldeneye etc Completed it on easy, never had any desire to try medium or hard.
Posted by calcalfold

Loved that game

Complete on easy though? Bah