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It allows me to hijack a thread and remind Tikay to check his PM's
Ref: Orfordable League Prizes
Many thanks Sir.
Regarding the community Forum.....
My general consensus is, that anything poker related should be open for debate, including HUDS, Staking, Live Poker, the good the bad & the ugly of online poker, how "RNG" random number generators deal a hand, right through to online collusion, when, where & how it could effect you.
There are many many more general poker topics which should and must be allowed to be openly debated, however, using a forum for the purpose of promoting other sites is a definite NO NO and should go without saying.
Clear rules and guidelines for posting and discussing any topics should be at the top of the relevant section of the forum.
Online poker needs to continue to gain the trust of its player database & prospective customers and to do this, we expect a degree of transparency. Onlinepoker companies need to continually reassure their customers that they do everything in their power to keep it's customers money safe, whether that be from fraudsters, collusion, hacking, the use of unauthorised software like HUDS which would give players an unfair advantage over others etc.
If I were new to the site I would expect to be able to discuss all these things if only to gather opinion & to reassure myself that I have joined a reputable site that does not hide from debate but is able to openly embrace it & use it for self promotion.
A healthy discussion/debate on all poker related matters (especially online poker) is a must if the industry is to continue to gain trust. If on the other hand we are using a forum to promote other sites and this is against the forum rules, then the least we can expect is that our post will be edited to remove all such promotion and thus allow the the discussion to continue in a positive manner without the need for being deleted completely.
ps. I won the 4K Re-buy open last night, so i'll have nothing bad said about the RNG
thin brag I know
Tikay as you are responding to questions on this thread I have a couple of things I would like to ask you.
The first is what I MEANT to say in that post last week. The USPs of Sky are the forums, community, 861 and the way they support DTD and the Orfy and all the seat prizes they hand out. Sky has said that their target audience is the recreational player and the game lobby certainly reflects that. These recreational players are happy to dive into a Bounty Hunter, get a couple of heads and enjoy an hour or 2 of poker. That was the point I was trying to make last week albeit horrendously badly. Do you not think there is room in the schedule for a more balanced roster of tournaments such as freezeouts, rebuys etc for a broader appeal across the board?
My 2nd question concerns the thread I started asking for Sky to consider a 2nd Megastack. The thread had some good support and a great response from Sky saying they would look into it but couldn't promise anything. Since then we have heard nothing either positive or negative so I can only assume they have decided against it. So my point is sometimes Sky leave us hanging for any response too many times and I would like them to be more responsive when requests are made.
Tikay as you are responding to questions on this thread I have a couple of things I would like to ask you. The first is what I MEANT to say in that post last week. The USPs of Sky are the forums, community, 861 and the way they support DTD and the Orfy and all the seat prizes they hand out. Sky has said that their target audience is the recreational player and the game lobby certainly reflects that. These recreational players are happy to dive into a Bounty Hunter, get a couple of heads and enjoy an hour or 2 of poker. That was the point I was trying to make last week albeit horrendously badly. Do you not think there is room in the schedule for a more balanced roster of tournaments such as freezeouts, rebuys etc for a broader appeal across the board? My 2nd question concerns the thread I started asking for Sky to consider a 2nd Megastack. The thread had some good support and a great response from Sky saying they would look into it but couldn't promise anything. Since then we have heard nothing either positive or negative so I can only assume they have decided against it. So my point is sometimes Sky leave us hanging for any response too many times and I would like them to be more responsive when requests are made.
Posted by FlyingDagg
I've not replied to all the questions yet, so I'll continue with that shortly.
I genuinely hope both sides of the Table understand each other a little better now.
It's good to waffle.
Promoting or spamming Staking organisations is also a no-no.
I'n not personally averse to Staking in certain circumstances (for big MTT's, but never never in a million years for cash games), and I buy a great deal of action myself, but time & place & all that, & it is not really suitable here.
Don't tell mum though.
Two points there, suitably enboldened.
Yes, of course it is fine to generally discuss other Sites in Diaries & the like, that's a different kettle of fish entirely, & it's abso fine. And Sky Poker readily understand that most players play on more than one Site.
Most of us have our "main" or "base" Poker Site, but we flit on & off other Sites for particular Tourneys or reasons.
A quite peculiar side-issue here, which always amuses me, but I never comment. We actually have regular Posters here on this Community who almost NEVER play on Sky Poker, but like to Post on this Community, & have a little pop at Sky Poker. Go figure that! So when they come on every week & say how much better xxx.com is, I do a little roll of the eyes.....
The HUD debate thing? Well that thread was used as a example, and the sort of opportunity I've been looking for to try & explain a few things. I actually think the whole exercise has been worthwhile, overall. It's so refreshing to see a thread which does not include the accusations of "stupidity" & "idiocy" (expressed in a FAR worse manner) by Management or whatever. That line never solved anything. Even though it may be true.....;)
It tears me apart to see bad blood & aggro, but I truly believe that 95% of it is unintentional, sometimes more "clumsy" than ill-intent.
Some advice has been offered here by both sides of the debate, & everything has been noted & absorbed. It can only be a good thing.
I do regularly see "'I won $x on 'Stars last night", & we all know that 'Stars is an incredibly good site. Even so, Sky Poker have USP's that 'Stars do not, & that includes, for better or worse (we all see it different), the small Buy In Tourneys here don't get 50,000 runners!
We have a community & a TV Channel, too ('Stars have neither), it's all checks & balances, & players have a great choice. Long may that choice last.
I just got owned by the Boss.
Meh.
And that is why BOTH parties need to make a little effort.
It's no good blaming it all on Sky Poker, or all on the players - it is both. This Community is the sum total of what we all choose to make it. Nothing worthwhile was ever achieved without a little effort. You can see the "givers" & "takers" on any Forum, those who work at it to make good or interesting threads, (for no personal return or thanks) & those who just use it as a chuntering stool.
You wake up some mornings & see some dreadful chuntery Posts, then click "see previous Posts", & you suddenly realise that ALL their Posts are the same.
Agendas gonna agenda.
Bit of an awkward shaped box if you think about it.
"....I'll ask on Sky Poker's Community how I can use something they don't allow, & how to use it on another site. I can't ask on that other Site though, as they don't have a Forum...."
Or, if you like....
"....today I'll go into Sainsburys, use their car park, & ask around how best to use Tesco Club Points...."
Quite awkward really - but for clarity, NO, there was no absolutely deliberate ill-intent. It was a good opportunity for me to explain some things, thats all.
I'm much more into avoiding aggro in advance, rather than breaking up fights. Pre-emptive, pro-active, bla bla bla.
Posted by FlashFlush
In Response to Re: Our Community = Your Community : I agree, but short of being heavy handed, what can we do? You are completely right (imo) but it's not something we can really do much about. Honestly, we run these SPT's & it does not occur to people WHY we run them! People do not do it intentionally, it just dos not cross their mind. The internet is destroying stuff like "etiquette".
Posted by Tikay10
As to that Post you made last week, no, sorry, I don't recall it........
END OF........
Wearing Sky Poker apparel at Genting Events is 100% fine, obviously. What's good for the goose is not pate. Cake & eat it, too. Other daft analogies may follow.
PS - Seriously, you make a good point there, & I agree. Apologies, I got my answer wrong earlier.
All done?
All questions answered now I hope.
If so, Upstairs will close the thread.
Oh, wait......
Oh wait.... NEWS FLASH
Morrisey has confirmed his Autobiography will be published this month.
Fancy some light reading TK?