Raise flop if u want maniac to fold A8 of diamonds Posted by DOHHHHHHH
+1 again.
Raising the flop is nothing like 3-betting pre-flop with AA.
When we 3-bet pre-flop with AA, we narrow our opponents' ranges down to hands that we have crushed and have poor equity against us. That's because we have the nuts and nothing has good equity against us. Every time we build the pot, we're gaining value. Sometimes the villains fold but we know that means we probably couldn't have got much more value anyway.
In this hand; if we raise the flop we narrow the deep-stacked villain's range to hands that beat us or have good equity against us. We fold out many hands that we have beat. We end up building the pot in a situation where we know our equity isn't too good. We also lose value from the pre-flop aggressor who we believe will pay us off on later streets if we do just flat, against whom we don't need to raise to play for stacks.
I think your forgetting we playing versus two ranges not one
i think we disagree where our continuation range and also both villians c ranges are wider
futher down the streets our ranges narrow
sorry but heavily crossing our fingers and hoping villian will barrel off versus two is slightly optismic where only reasons for flatting are for maniac to barrel and nit to flat behind
don't think you even considering turn action, where you want mainiac to barrel off into two so u can get your value
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Raise flop if u want maniac to fold A8 of diamonds
Raising the flop is nothing like 3-betting pre-flop with AA.
When we 3-bet pre-flop with AA, we narrow our opponents' ranges down to hands that we have crushed and have poor equity against us. That's because we have the nuts and nothing has good equity against us. Every time we build the pot, we're gaining value. Sometimes the villains fold but we know that means we probably couldn't have got much more value anyway.
In this hand; if we raise the flop we narrow the deep-stacked villain's range to hands that beat us or have good equity against us. We fold out many hands that we have beat. We end up building the pot in a situation where we know our equity isn't too good. We also lose value from the pre-flop aggressor who we believe will pay us off on later streets if we do just flat, against whom we don't need to raise to play for stacks.
i think we disagree where our continuation range and also both villians c ranges are wider
futher down the streets our ranges narrow
sorry but heavily crossing our fingers and hoping villian will barrel off versus two is slightly optismic where only reasons for flatting are for maniac to barrel and nit to flat behind
don't think you even considering turn action, where you want mainiac to barrel off into two so u can get your value