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Not impressed

VespaPXVespaPX
edited December 2013 in Poker Chat
So i take a look at the results page as i do every morning, and what do i see...

A guy that subjected me and others to vile abuse less than a week ago makes a big cash in the Primo.

I did report it at the time, and maybe he has been chat banned, but given the nature of the abuse he should have been banned from playing on here.
If you did that at a football match it would be an automatic lifetime ban.
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  • Jac35Jac35
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Not impressed:
    So i take a look at the results page as i do every morning, and what do i see... A guy that subjected me and others to vile abuse less than a week ago makes a big cash in the Primo. I did report it at the time, and maybe he has been chat banned, but given the nature of the abuse he should have been banned from playing on here. If you did that at a football match it would be an automatic lifetime ban.
    Posted by VespaPX
    It's really frustrating Vespa.
    This thread will be closed and you'll be told to report it to Customer Care. 
    A number of people I know have done just that. 
    Then, next time you play,  you see them there again doing exactly the same thing.

    I find it so bizarre that Sky will close threads so quickly over trivial things. 
    Yet chatbox abuse seems to be constantly ignored.
    No doubt we'll be told that these things are taken seriously. Just doesnt seem like it sometimes. 
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  • VespaPXVespaPX
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: Not impressed:
    In Response to Not impressed : It's really frustrating Vespa. This thread will be closed and you'll be told to report it to Customer Care.  A number of people I know have done just that.  Then, next time you play,  you see them there again doing exactly the same thing. I find it so bizarre that Sky will close threads so quickly over trivial things.  Yet chatbox abuse seems to be constantly ignored. No doubt we'll be told that these things are taken seriously. Just doesnt seem like it sometimes. 
    Posted by Jac35
    Agreed Jac
    Need stronger action to stamp it out.

    Its quite telling really that if you posted something like he did, in the chat box ,on Twitter or Facebook you would probably be arrested.
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  • jordz16jordz16
    edited December 2013
    I have found this incredibly unfair in the past also. I believe the victim of the abuse should get a full report on what punishment the culprit recieved, there may be some reasons why this cant be done but this is how it works in the real world. Hearing its "been dealt with" really doesnt cut it.
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  • DANDYDON87DANDYDON87
    edited December 2013

    Describe the abuse you received...

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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Not impressed:
    So i take a look at the results page as i do every morning, and what do i see... A guy that subjected me and others to vile abuse less than a week ago makes a big cash in the Primo. I did report it at the time, and maybe he has been chat banned, but given the nature of the abuse he should have been banned from playing on here. If you did that at a football match it would be an automatic lifetime ban.
    Posted by VespaPX
    For the fan watching/abusing the players, not for the players on the pitch.

    You can punch/bite//spit at/ try to break the leg of an opponent and not be banned for life as a player, not even close.

    Chat ban sufficient.
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  • deadeyeddeadeyed
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Not impressed:
    So i take a look at the results page as i do every morning, and what do i see... A guy that subjected me and others to vile abuse less than a week ago makes a big cash in the Primo. I did report it at the time, and maybe he has been chat banned, but given the nature of the abuse he should have been banned from playing on here. If you did that at a football match it would be an automatic lifetime ban.
    Posted by VespaPX
    name and shame
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  • VespaPXVespaPX
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: Not impressed:
    In Response to Not impressed : name and shame
    Posted by deadeyed
    I would probably get a forum ban for doing that.
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  • VespaPXVespaPX
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: Not impressed:
    Describe the abuse you received...
    Posted by DANDYDON87
    It was of a racist and sexist nature
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  • VespaPXVespaPX
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: Not impressed:
    In Response to Not impressed : For the fan watching/abusing the players, not for the players on the pitch. You can punch/bite//spit at/ try to break the leg of an opponent and not be banned for life as a player, not even close. Chat ban sufficient.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    A long suspension then?
    Wonder how a casino would deal with it.
    Tell the player not to say anything for the rest of the evening?
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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: Not impressed:
    In Response to Not impressed : name and shame
    Posted by deadeyed
    I hope nobody does, as that would never be acceptable to the Business.

    I really hope the thread remains open, so these things can be discussed in an adult & sensible manner, but the suggestion of "name & shame" would work against that.
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  • VespaPXVespaPX
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: Not impressed:
    In Response to Re: Not impressed : I hope nobody does, as that would never be acceptable to the Business. I really hope the thread remains open, so these things can be discussed in an adult & sensible manner, but the suggestion of "name & shame" would work against that.
    Posted by Tikay10
    Wont be named by me.
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  • jordz16jordz16
    edited December 2013
    if you post racist remarks on most types of social media then the matter is passed onto police and the account it was made from is swiftly closed. why should sky poker be any different?
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  • nffc4evanffc4eva
    edited December 2013
    Boo hoo. Get over yourself and stop whinging 
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: Not impressed:
    In Response to Re: Not impressed : A long suspension then? Wonder how a casino would deal with it. Tell the player not to say anything for the rest of the evening?
    Posted by VespaPX
    Prob throw him out.

    Not sure that's a valid comparison again either, because this isn't a casino.

    Just a chatban fixes the problem, it's gone away now, it wont happen again.

    His punishment is not being able to chat/use the forum. If anything sky are probably punishing him by keeping his account open as most of these kind of players lose money at the game. So sky/us punters will profit from him being able to play.

    Said before there's much bigger issues on the site than stuff like this which go unpunished. At least (presumably) they took some action on this occasion. Although it wouldn't surprise me if they hadn't.
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  • jonjo75jonjo75
    edited December 2013
    The problem is that the victim who has been abused and reported it has no way of knowing if anything has been done.This can be very frustating and makes you think whats the point of reporting it.
    There must be someway of informing the victim what (if anything) has been done.
    Is there anyone out there who can tell me that they have recieved a warning or know of someone who has been repremanded for their chat because I dont and have no way of knowing if anything is ever done about this.
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  • Das_BootDas_Boot
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Not impressed:
    So i take a look at the results page as i do every morning, and what do i see... A guy that subjected me and others to vile abuse less than a week ago makes a big cash in the Primo. I did report it at the time, and maybe he has been chat banned, but given the nature of the abuse he should have been banned from playing on here. If you did that at a football match it would be an automatic lifetime ban.
    Posted by VespaPX
    It's an offence under s1 of the malicious communications act and you can forward to the police to investigate. Sky will be obliged to pass on details of the alleged offender. Probably the threat of same would suffice but I'd progress it if it happened to me. 
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  • SlipwaterSlipwater
    edited December 2013
    I wasn't on the rail so I didn't see any of this happening, but racism in any form - and on any level - is disgusting. We are all adults here, but as usual, it seems maturity does not go hand in hand with that. I am sorry you were subjected to this Vespa. Unfortunately, it will never stop. 99% of the world belongs to good people. The rest will always be morons.
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  • ryderrooryderroo
    edited December 2013
    Hate to try simplify this but Vespa if you are sat with this guy again turn off chat!! not a great solution as you,ll miss the normal good natured banter, but you won,t have to put up with a complete D--- H---, insert any other appropriate words, last thing don,t let the B------ grind you down or impinge on your enjoyment of poker and this site! gl
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  • gerardirlgerardirl
    edited December 2013
    True, Ive had something similar from a player that follows me and abuses me despite not even playing at the table. He also does it to several other players. He has two accounts which is seemingly taken very seriously yet he continues to use them both.

    I give up I just stick him on ignore now. Great new option from sky btw ehich you might find handy vespa.
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  • Sky_PokerSky_Poker
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: Not impressed:
    True, Ive had something similar from a player that follows me and abuses me despite not even playing at the table. He also does it to several other players. He has two accounts which is seemingly taken very seriously yet he continues to use them both. I give up I just stick him on ignore now. Great new option from sky btw ehich you might find handy vespa.
    Posted by gerardirl
    Please send us details via PM, on both counts.
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  • cheren1984cheren1984
    edited December 2013
    Vespa   was it the same idiot the other day when you was on my table that was being racist and homophobic towards me ? 
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  • VespaPXVespaPX
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: Not impressed:
    Vespa   was it the same idiot the other day when you was on my table that was being racist and homophobic towards me ? 
    Posted by cheren1984
    Yep thats the one
    I reported it straight away to CC
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  • MRBURNS4MRBURNS4
    edited December 2013
    First off all respect to the posters and Sky for allowing this thread to continue.

    I like many have come across players that in chat that have said things in the real world would end up with a court apperance. I understand Sky cannot enter into details of what the results of there investergation is. However it is not unreasonbile that we are told ie the player has been banned from site or chat ban etc TBH a page of list of players and reason for ban may be uncomftable for them but tough they are the offenders and may stop others.

    I also reported a player for outrages comments usual of I kill you, and your family, I ...... you mother etc I have to be honest I havnt bothered reporting since as the player in question received no chat ban and to this day continues this behavour and feels even more able to act like this as he know I reported him with no action on him.

     I even had other players mention his name and has done the same to them this is where with no feedback on any report made to Sky dosent work as if for some reason the opperater taking the report makes a error or worse forgets to make a report no one ever knows

    People that make these statments are of course just trying to tilt you however I do not see why this should ever be allowed if in everyday life the same coments would result in Police action
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  • Sky_PokerSky_Poker
    edited December 2013

    We do urge you to report things like this please. We do monitor, but your help is appreciated. If you think there is a repeat offender who needs looking into, please report them again.

    As usual, please provide as much detail as possible on:

    - The alias of the person
    - The table / game it was in
    - The time and date

    Please make sure that the alias is accurate especially because it makes it much easier to find.

    Thanks
    Sky Poker
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  • paige55paige55
    edited December 2013
    so sad to here you got abused vespa,had it happen to me some time ago,why back in 2009,but i have not had any bad abuse since then, luv trish xx keep on reporting,it is the only way to stop it,best wishes to you vespa xxx
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  • LENGALENGLENGALENG
    edited December 2013

    Why is name and shame so frowned upon?

    In my local area,the police are at present running a drink driving scheme where anyone found guilty of drink driving
    over the festive period are named and shamed on a public web site for all to see.It would seem therefore that this policy
    is some what justified,especially if the good old law enforcers think its the right thing to do......

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  • THEROCK573THEROCK573
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: Not impressed:
    Vespa   was it the same idiot the other day when you was on my table that was being racist and homophobic towards me ? 
    Posted by cheren1984
    can i just ask how its possilble for anybody to know you're sexuality or race from there computer screen?
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  • Das_BootDas_Boot
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: Not impressed:
    Why is name and shame so frowned upon? In my local area,the police are at present running a drink driving scheme where anyone found guilty of drink driving over the festive period are named and shamed on a public web site for all to see.It would seem therefore that this policy is some what justified,especially if the good old law enforcers think its the right thing to do......
    Posted by LENGALENG[/
    Not the same - convicted and guilty of a crime vs an alleged offence. That's why quite rightly there cannot be any naming and shaming. 
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  • deadeyeddeadeyed
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: Not impressed:
    In Response to Re: Not impressed : I hope nobody does, as that would never be acceptable to the Business. I really hope the thread remains open, so these things can be discussed in an adult & sensible manner, but the suggestion of "name & shame" would work against that.
    Posted by Tikay10
    lol....ok, send him to bed with no tea!!
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  • cheren1984cheren1984
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: Not impressed:
    In Response to Re: Not impressed : can i just ask how its possilble for anybody to know you're sexuality or race from there computer screen?
    Posted by THEROCK573

    when and where did i say it was possible that he new my sexuality or race  OR was i just stating that he was very abusive the other day 

    cheren84 = cherene  girls name and girls avatar that maybe gave it away 
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