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can somebody explain to me,why certain players,who already have a seat to the ukpc in nottingham,
are still entering satellites to the event.
when it clearly explains in the ts and cs ,a maximum of 1 seat is eligable to all players?
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this issue was raised last week with both opinions for and against the issue of playing for a second seat and taking a cash value - see the thread called "a wee bit flawed".
no real right or wrong answer, as as stated in the thread it would take a rule change which could then be detrimental to the satellite prize structure
If you have bought into any event on sky, then play a sat for the same event, you will be awarded the cash equivalent of the buy in.
People do it across all different levels of games, from £33 main events to indeed the UKPC sats.
Some people dislike it, but it's only natural if someone has an edge in Sat's they will play them for the cash.
The only problem is sky don't advertise that you can play sats for money. Why, I don't know.
So only the minority that know about it, do it, otherwise the sats at all levels would get more runners.
It isn't as though players are spoilt for choice on here for tournaments with £1,000 to the winner.
if once a player had qualified they were not allowed to try a second time.
there would have been 51 fewer entrants into sunday's semi-finals.
of these, there were 10 winners of a second place.
a rule would have been harmful to all players seeking to qualify.
But, no. still think it's fine. Ts and Cs should make it clear though.
Now if Sky set up tournament cash as a payout for sats when you have a seat I would be happy with that. If they set up the software where you cannot register for a satellite if you are registered for the target event and vice versa, I wouldn't complain about that either. Heck, Skypoker can ask nicely and publically, while I wouldn't condemn anyone else for continuing to grind Sats I would probably desist. They of course couldn't use the examples of people who win a dozen+ WSOP main packages as a glowing example of satellite grinding as they have done on occasion but thems the breaks.
The fact is I pick games I think I have an edge in with a top level prize I want to win with a buy in I can afford. To say that, and only that part of poker, is morally wrong deeply offends me and I consider it to be utterly without cause.
Skypoker last month laid on a huge amount of promos for the UKPC, they did put in the T & C you can only win one of the promo packages and that is completely fair with protection for smaller bankrolled players. I would never argue against that. And I would welcome more of them even though I would not play them.
The guys can do what they want. Nothing ''morally wrong'' with it whatsoever.
Difficult to elaborate on what Tommy has said so I'll just do a +1 and leave it at that
if it doesn't say you can't, do it!
We all have our own standards and often they differ from others.
Personally, I've given up on ethics but whether it be TommyD, Dohhhhh, donttellmum, lovejunky or especially spornybol
I just hope the tournament goes to a forum regular not a pro!
Good luck guys take it down!!
here's another fact...
had the rules been that anyone who had already qualified was not allowed to play qualifiers anymore, then this week, there would have been 51 fewer entries (10.2 seats) in the quarter finals and 7 fewer semi-final seats going to those people.
what this means is that three people (3.2) who now are playing in the sunday night semi final would not have a seat and would be twiddling their thumbs.
The satellite grinders are doing nothing wrong, playing in these games is good game selection for them because there will always be a number of weak players in the field who've made it there from the micro sats.
My view is impartial because I cannot/do not want to play in the UKPC. However if I were interested I wouldn't touch the sats with a bargepole. Not only do you have to beat huge rake (43.75% if you start at £2.30 or £1.15), should you get to the final round you're then going to have to beat some of the stongest MTT/Satellite players on the site.
In my opinion you'd be better off trying to win your buy-in a different type of MTT.
The reality is that sky doesn't have a very sophisticated sat system for a large buy in re entry tournament. What about people wanting to fire more than one bullet but who want to qualify for these entries? You can say they could get awarded a tournament token for another £1k sky event but its not like there are large amounts of these.
Also, do you have the same view for all sats on sky eg mains etc?