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8pm, 9pm and 10.30pm - Bounty Hunter Chip Stack and Late Registration Changes
Is there a structure change or just more chips?
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I could ask this question for all the tournaments with the changes but for now. What time did the main finish for Monday/Thursday/Friday/Saturday last week and how to you envisage this changing with the changes to the starting stacks? Whilst more chips proves more popular with recreational players, being up till the early hours will put lots of recreational players off.
Matt
i think that even a 40% or so increase in starting stack will not extend the game by very much really. those games will last less than 10% longer.
however, if they added levels i would be quite concerned. i would favour keeping the number the same or even have fewer levels.
As I say, I think they're ok as they are and this change with make little to no difference but if one change is made to blind levels it was to be more/smaller incremetal blind increases rather than less.
no offence, but my point was not to reduce the number of levels. i favour keeping the number of levels the same as opposed to increasing the number which was favoured by dohhhhhhh.
my point was that the increase starting stacks makes little difference to tournament length.
matt's issue was forewarning about increasing the length of a game and playing into the early hours.
i am happy with everything paul.
Will post more thoughts on this after I have a good luck at the structure changes but initially:
This calls for Zandig
First up, the 9pm. In my opinion easily the best structured MTT on the site previously.
You've dropped two early levels (the 10/20 and the 25/50) which I can get behind. Starting stack has been increased to 5k, not really sure that change was needed at all, in fact probably would have been better off left alone but no real major issue there.
There's only been one level added in later. At level 29. Which would happen roughly six hours into the MTT. Which is 3am. For a MTT which usually finishes between 1am and 2am. I'm not sure that was needed, even with the additional chips this MTT won't see 3am very often at all. I would much rather more levels be slid in from around level 10 onwards, have more play at the sharp end.
Late reg is now available until around 10:40pm (ending just before 150/300 rather than 40/80 before which was open until roughly 10.05). Feels overly long to me. The real problem I see is without ante pressure, the average stack is going to be bunched around 7k or so when late reg closes in, that's around 23bb. And the structure doesn't slow down to incorporate 'play' at this time. Honestly, it feels like it's been set up by a Hyper reg who intends to buy in at the last minute. I may well be off with my numbers, in fact I hope I am and the MTT plays out totally differently, we'll see tonight and I am completely open minded to trying the structure. I just don't think it needed tinkering with and I have no idea why late reg is so long.
As someone who's found the main event bounty hunters less and less enjoyable, I read the boost of a starting stack as a positive and something that appealed to me enough to want to give the new format a go.
With the larger starting stack I'd be surprised if the finishing times went on much longer than they do now, maybe half an hour extra?
Anyway with late registration being extended, could there be a justification, for moving the tournament start times forwards?
I don't think there was any complaints about late registration finishing too early, so how about moving the start time forwards and with the late reg at extra levels, the late reg option, time wise, will be pretty much where it has been for the last 12+ months, then everyone might be happy?
May I ask what was wrong with this tourney?
It usually finished by 2 had lots of play and most regs on SKY I believe thought it was pretty spot on.
Giving a bigger stack but taking out levels is purely a trick to make people believe they are getting more value for their £50.
A bigger starting stack does not give you more play if you change the levels
Here is a comparison of the 9pm BH old and new structure
Lets say that after every level for the first 10 levels you have the original starting stack and how many BB you would (roughly) have.
OLD NEW
4000 5000
Level BB Level BB
1 10/20 200 15/30 166
2 15/30 133 20/40 125
3 20/40 100 30/60 83
4 25/50 80 40/80 63
5 30/60 66 50/100 50
6 40/80 50 75/150 33
7 50/100 40 100/200 25
8 75/150 26 125/250 20
9 100/200 20 150/300 16
10 125/250 16 200/400 12
So basically after every level in the old structure you would have more BB so how is this providing more room for play at earlier levels?
I'm more concerned with the apparent loss of the 22:15 £22 BH which I went to late reg for at 22:40ish but it was not there! Is the list of othher changes?