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Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW!

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  • scotty77scotty77
    edited February 2010
    Dan I dont think the issue is the BIs/how rolled the player is.  I think its the fact it was mentioned on the TV channel.  That is something that I find pretty out of taste.

    Will be interesting to know if the guy in question knows about his new found fame, and how he takes to it....with it being mentioned on the TV channel, there must have been a couple of railbirds saying stuff in the chat....
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  • dantb10dantb10
    edited February 2010
    If the other dude had won, they would ov given him a shout out!

    Ive seen loads of threads saying 'ooo lolufold sat with 500bb' etc...

    The guy wont give 2 hooots! He'll get all the action he wants! (but his name aint mentioned so...)
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  • ChirpyChipChirpyChip
    edited February 2010
    Lol when somebody asked James's opponent earlier, who is being discussed here obviously, today about this forum thread he just said "loooooooooooooooooooool"..... he thought it was absolutely hilarious and didint seem to care one bit!

    Tikay is simply not at Fault..... in fact I have asked him several times to adopt me as his Grandson lol..... and btw nice win James, keep it up.


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  • OMahonyOOMahonyO
    edited February 2010


    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW!:
    If the other dude had won, they would ov given him a shout out! Ive seen loads of threads saying 'ooo lolufold sat with 500bb' etc... The guy wont give 2 hooots! He'll get all the action he wants! (but his name aint mentioned so...)
    Posted by dantb10

    I have personally started a thread saying `lolufold sitting 750bb deep at nl500`, never got any stick for it.

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  • the_gibbthe_gibb
    edited February 2010
    Who is bored of this now...
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  • zxghostxzzxghostxz
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW!:
    Ihonestly dont see the big deal! the guy lost say 5buy ins! I lose 5 buy ins every day!!! The dude that lost wont give 2 monkeys as he's obviously rolled for those limits, as they have been playing since the game with james! It was a thread to get people railing a big game for sky standards, but 2 put it into perspective, its like a 20nl player losing 100 quid, its all comparative to bankroll. They are rolled for it, they take the hit and move on! "mountain out of a mouse tu rd" class line, made me chuckle!
    Posted by dantb10
    haw can you say loseing  10 grand is no big deal?  id be looking for a gun.
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  • TRIP5TRIP5
    edited February 2010
    I for one was really excited at getting to rail some live nose-bleed poker and don't have the time to trawl the tables waiting for this sort of action to happen (few and far between) so if the problem is that TK brought this match to our attention then maybe someone like Acebarry10 could post the info up instead? I would hate to think that we can't be told about these games!

    If i'm understanding this correctly, when TK was observing the tables the stacks were even, it just so happens that lJAMESl won on this occasion, however it could have been the other way round.

    This was mentioned earlier in the thread...Maybe there should be a seperate thread where we can all post if we hear of/know about 'big' games that are going on?

    Didn't see the Primo live this week so can't comment on that aspect until I catch the re-run...

    x
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  • beanehbeaneh
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW!:
    Hi all Have just got in and seen how ridiculous this thread has gotten out of hand. I think you should all lay off Tikay right away he has done nothing wrong, getting people to rail a HU match is absolutely fine when its big on Sky why not? I could of easily of lost myself the stacks were both £5k when he posted and thats absolutely true. On full tilt anyone can rail games and there are tonnes of sites that show wins/losses of players online.  Sky doesnt show players overall wins/losses and my opponents name certainly wasn't mentioned once. Get off Tikays back please. As for it being announced on air I had no idea about that and didn't want a mention but Sky can say what they want to be honest aslong as they are not mentioning names. There is a show on Sky called 'top of the pots' where I have seen myself win and lose huge pots on air. I'm not going to cry about the ones I lost I think it's good for TV and within Skys right to show them. I personally think if this match was to be replayed on Sky I would find this highly disrespectful to my opponent no matter how big our bankrolls are there is still pride involved and everyone hates losing, so my answer to that would be a definate No.  I'm really disappointed in 2 players in this thread in particular you've decided to use half your posts on the entire forum in this thread getting on Tikays back. The players name hasn't been mentioned. He is the one that asked to play higher (£2000nl) when I was happy at £500nl. He can most definitely afford it. So stop worrying please guys we are both big boys and if I would of lost I would of taken it on the chin, I wouldn't of came on here crying because I lost in a HU game. Loads of people were railing before the thread was mentioned there were about 12 people all talking in the chat box at once. People rail my games all the time I'm sure they've seen me on big losing sessions aswell as big winning sessions, I'm not going to stop them there right to watch poker entertainment.   
    Posted by lJAMESl


    Sigh does anyone read posts?


    No ones had a dig AT TK, people just instantly defend him. Yes he started the thread but it's the general idea that Sky employees shouldn't be the ones involved in disseminating results. 


    Also notice that you play on TV tables to allow your hands to be shown, the HU match wasn't so it wouldn't reach top of the pots or whatever it's called.

    Your 3 rd point seems counter intuitive to what you've said above. Then again i've not even considered the idea of showing the whole match because that's just lol.


    Half my posts to get at TK? babes, learn to read. And as you say you have had big losing sessions before (I can think of one recently!) BUT we didn't have a congratulations thread for that winner from Sky employees..... It's best if it just doesn't come from up top. The forum is a place for the community and railing is a  big part of that I just don't think the direction should be coming from those that also advertise the site. I have repeated that about 8 times but most don't seem to read posts, especially the longer ones. Everyone just wants to take things as an insult or dig (especially towards TK).


    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW!:
    The suggestion that I am not impartial I find hurtful in the extreme.
    Posted by Tikay10


    I hope you dont think that because of me...


    Do you find it hurtful when someone thinks online poker is rigged or asks a question in area 51? 


    It's not about whether YOU ARE IMPARTIAL or WHETHER ONLINE POKER IS RIGGED, because we know the answer to both of those. 

    It's about HOW IT SEEMS to a random outsider which Is why I think a forummer should start railing-esque threads.




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  • lJAMESllJAMESl
    edited February 2010
    Beaneh just give a rest! You have 32 posts on here and half of them you've used to cause arguments or controversy... on another site you actually use your posts well. 

    What's the point honestly? To make yourself look like a big suit? This is a forum everyones entitled to there opinion but here I'm sorry but you are more interested in sticking your 2 pence worth in than actually saying anything constructive. 

    Also there are no TV HU tables have you not noticed, I would play on them if there was I don't care who watches me. I suggest you write into full tilt and ask them to ban highstakes db and poker table ratings as you are so concerned about it. This is not even close to what those sites do showing winnnings and losses of players which is what they do. I would never ask anyone to replay the HU match because its disrespectful to my opponent as simple as that. If I lost the match sure my pride would of been damaged too but I'm not gonna cry about it or make some argumentative posts on the forum to stir trouble.

    All these whinging posts are a total waste of time, causes more harm than good. You really need to leave it now its boring honestly.
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  • beanehbeaneh
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW!:
    Beaneh just give a rest! You have 32 posts on here and half of them you've used to cause arguments or controversy... on another site you actually use your posts well.  What's the point honestly? To make yourself look like a big suit? This is a forum everyones entitled to there opinion but here I'm sorry but you are more interested in sticking your 2 pence worth in than actually saying anything constructive.  Also there are no TV HU tables have you not noticed, I would play on them if there was I don't care who watches me. I suggest you write into full tilt and ask them to ban highstakes db and poker table ratings as you are so concerned about it. This is not even close to what those sites do showing winnnings and losses of players which is what they do. I would never ask anyone to replay the HU match because its disrespectful to my opponent as simple as that. If I lost the match sure my pride would of been damaged too but I'm not gonna cry about it or make some argumentative posts on the forum to stir trouble. All these whinging posts are a total waste of time, causes more harm than good. You really need to leave it now its boring honestly.
    Posted by lJAMESl

    mate you haven't read my post again. nor do you seem to understand why i've posted.


    Try reading again?


    Also just so you realise, FTP etc do not host results and Coward Folderer doesn't come out saying so and so won lots todays.  There has been months of discussions about opr/hsdb etc etc that's not the same as this situation.

    So again re read my posts, or Elsa's as she sums my thoughts up nicely.



    Criticising my post count is just lol, especially considering we know each other. Most posts in this thread have been childish/defensive even when there is no reason to be. 


    Do you actually see where i'm coming from or just think you are being attacked along with the out and out attack on TK!?
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  • Seagull158Seagull158
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW!:
    I would just to like make some clarifications. First of all, I would like to apologise to Tikay, James, "the guy" and anybody else that has or may have been offended by any posts that I have made in this thread. It was not my intention to offend or show lack of respect toward anybody, I was merely expressing my opinion. I would just like to make the following points: * I have huge respect for Tikay both as a poker player and analyst and as a member of the SkyPoker community. I did not in anyway intend for it to come across that Tikay was intentionally behaving in an unethical way or showing favouritism toward a specific player like some people in this thread have claimed. I believe Tikay to be of sound poker conscience and the pinnacle of poker standards, ethics and morals. He often goes above and beyond what is expected of him within the SkyPoker community and strives to help and advise anybody that needs such assistance. * My original posts had nothing to do with the Total Player competition. I feel honoured and privileged to be part of the competition and do not take my place in it for granted. I was not in anyway trying to bring the competition into disrepute by, in anyway, suggesting that Tikay was in someway showing favouritism toward a Total Player nominee in James. I believe Tikay to be of sound judgement and integrity and I simply don't accept for one instant that he would ever do such a thing. I have since spoken privately to James about this and I understand his irritation at mine and others posts on this issue. I have come to the conclusion that it was unwise for me to make the posts that I have and I instead should of kept my thoughts to myself on the matter as the risk of offending somebody, especially Tikay, was too high. I would like to gracefully withdraw the comments that I have previously made and apologise once again for any undue offence that I may have caused. I would urge everybody here to forget about this matter and to continue making the SkyPoker community the best it can be; thankfully with Tikay at the helm that shouldn't be a hard task to achieve. All the best Browndog
    Posted by BrownnDog
    Good post Brownndog. I can appreciate the pros and cons on both sides of the discussion (and the grey areas in between).
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  • lJAMESllJAMESl
    edited February 2010
    Obv I know you, which surprises me even more of the amount of effort you've put into this thread. It makes me wonder what your real motive is in this thread. I've never had any problem with you. I didn't ask for it to be read out on air nor would I of wanted it to be. I haven't heard what has been said either, but its happened now.. such is life. It obviously wont be happening again. 

    But the way you have come across in this thread is just in here to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Sky recently has been full of childish comments and its becoming over the top more and more each time. I think everyone can see that this thread has some differences in opinion but some people don't know when to stop repeating the same things over and over. We are going round in circles. The simple fact is people can rail which games they want if someone else other than Tikay wants to start these threads than thats fine. If this is what your saying then sure it would be better if someone other than Tikay mentioned it but I don't think he's done anything wrong at all.

    I'm done with this thread now and wont be commenting on it again.

    GL to everyone and happy railing :)
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  • LONGPLAYLONGPLAY
    edited February 2010
    this is an excellent and responsible thread that is of great use to sky players with regards to good bankroll management and in no way does it encourage "quite the opposite", lets hope that many lower stake players don't get too hyped to "grab a piece" of this type of action that's been trumpeted about with this thread...for every 1 player that does well with this type of play there are 50 who go busto and are never seen again,it's not something that sky should be promoting or highlighting. 
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  • 5toneFace5toneFace
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW!:
    this is an excellent and responsible thread that is of great use to sky players with regards to good bankroll management and in no way does it encourage "quite the opposite", lets hope that many lower stake players don't get too hyped to "grab a piece" of this type of action that's been trumpeted about with this thread...for every 1 player that does well with this type of play there are 50 who go busto and are never seen again,it's not something that sky should be promoting or highlighting. 
    Posted by LONGPLAY
    Im pretty sure both players have big enough rolls to play these stakes
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  • LONGPLAYLONGPLAY
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW!:
    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW! : Im pretty sure both players have big enough rolls to play these stakes
    Posted by 5toneFace
    that doesn't make it a good thing to promote and highlight on a site like this.
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  • SharksbiteSharksbite
    edited February 2010
    I think this thread should be closed, just my opinion, for the sake of all parties involved?
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  • 5toneFace5toneFace
    edited February 2010
    But it does make 3/4 of ur earlier post irrelevant!
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  • beanehbeaneh
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW!:
    Obv I know you, which surprises me even more of the amount of effort you've put into this thread. It makes me wonder what your real motive is in this thread. I've never had any problem with you. I didn't ask for it to be read out on air nor would I of wanted it to be. I haven't heard what has been said either, but its happened now.. such is life. It obviously wont be happening again.  But the way you have come across in this thread is just in here to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Sky recently has been full of childish comments and its becoming over the top more and more each time. I think everyone can see that this thread has some differences in opinion but some people don't know when to stop repeating the same things over and over. We are going round in circles. The simple fact is people can rail which games they want if someone else other than Tikay wants to start these threads than thats fine.

    If this is what your saying then sure it would be better if someone other than Tikay mentioned it but I don't think he's done anything wrong at all.

    So you didn't read my posts and now have stumbled across what I said. 

    This is ALL I said. The childish comments came from other people. I never criticised TK just tried to make clear why it doesn't seem the best idea coming from him.


    Thanks for reading my posts so intently. I am on life tilt atm from some of this stupidity.




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  • beanehbeaneh
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW!:
    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW! : Im pretty sure both players have big enough rolls to play these stakes
    Posted by 5toneFace

    i'm pretty sure you dont know what is required for a BR to play HUNL !!

    The players bankrolls is completely unrelated to whether it can be discussed, it's their choice to sit at those stakes.
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  • LONGPLAYLONGPLAY
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW!:
    But it does make 3/4 of ur earlier post irrelevant!
    Posted by 5toneFace
    recommended use of bankroll for good bankroll management..1 or 2 percent,doesn't quite add up here does it.
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  • 5toneFace5toneFace
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW!:
    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW! : i'm pretty sure you dont know what is required for a BR to play HUNL !! The players bankrolls is completely unrelated to whether it can be discussed, it's their choice to sit at those stakes.
    Posted by beaneh
    U dont know anything about me, to know what I do and dont know!!!

    My point is that Longplays argument about bankroll management is irrelevant!!
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  • maximus66maximus66
    edited February 2010
    I really dont understand what the problem is with this thread!?!?

    I was glad this thread was put on here last night because it gave me the chance to watch at the stakes that are a million miles away from my level and was great to watch.

    Tikay was unfairly 'nailed' by some people in my opinion for no reason what so ever.



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  • 5toneFace5toneFace
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW!:
    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW! : recommended use of bankroll for good bankroll management..1 or 2 percent,doesn't quite add up here does it.
    Posted by LONGPLAY
    U have no idea what any players bankroll is!!!!!
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  • LONGPLAYLONGPLAY
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW!:
    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW! : U dont know anything about me, to know what I do and dont know!!! My point is that Longplays argument about bankroll management is irrelevant!!
    Posted by 5toneFace
    so you think these guys have 500k poker bankrolls then? because that's the only way the maths works here.
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  • 5toneFace5toneFace
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW!:
    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW! : so you think these guys have 500k poker bankrolls then? because that's the only way the maths works here.
    Posted by LONGPLAY
    looooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

    U dont need 500k pmsl, 
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  • LONGPLAYLONGPLAY
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW!:
    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW! : looooooooooooooooooooooooooooool U dont need 500k pmsl, 
    Posted by 5toneFace
    you need to email sky,let the presenters and analysts know that their recommended use of bankroll amount is incorrect,you have discovered alternative figures and you need to put them right.
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  • 5toneFace5toneFace
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW!:
    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW! : you need to email sky,let the presenters and analysts know that their recommended use of bankroll amount is incorrect,you have discovered alternative figures and you need to put them right.
    Posted by LONGPLAY
    What do they recommend?
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited February 2010
    This whole thread is typical of what's been happening on this forum of late.

    There is a difference of opinion between people on a subject. Big deal it happens every minute of every day. People should be able to differ without it degrading into a slanging match. A small number of people (including myself) disagreed with what had taken place but whereas some people argued their point in a civilised and well constructed manner some used this as an excuse to hurl abuse. Then the 'we will defend Tikay' group start shouting about Tikay being 'nailed' etc. and comments are made to 'get off Tikay's back', 'leave him alone' etc.

    Then we have another thread started saying we should all show support for Tikay and have a group hug. What is this some sort of dysfunctional family where we all bicker and argue, hurl abuse tell each other to get out then have a group hug to make up and quench our attachment disorders. Whenever a difference of opinion occurs in the forum just lately, it's reminiscent of the shouts of 'fight fight' in the playground just before everyone piles in.

    Tikay's a big lad and can look after himself. He wasn't particularly singled out and wasn't abused by the people who disagreed with what took place. When someone makes a reasoned and well constructed argument against anything, the retort shouldn't be to tell them to leave if they don't agree with your point of view, or they disagree with someone you like.

    Because he works for and represents Sky, Tikay has a difficult job to do to try and keep everyone happy and remain politically correct. I for one will disagree with him occasionally and I will speak up when I do. I don't expect this to lead to insults or derision from either of us and although I disagree with something I will always try to respect the other point of view. 

    Vive la Difference! 



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  • scotty77scotty77
    edited February 2010
    5tone - ignore Longplay.  he appears to be devoid of any sense at all.  whatever he posts is just a ramble of words.  coming in on here thinking this is a discussion about bankroll LOL.

    James/TK - i think its obvious that beaneh doesn't care about the fact that the HU match was highlighted.  What is the issue is that it was mentioned on the TV channel and also brought to the forums attention by TK.  TK is the most recognisable face of sky poker, and it could easily be seen as bias, especially as it is well known that you and TK are good friends outside of the poker table too.

    now everyone who knows TK will also know that this is not the case.  he was simply letting the forum know of a entertaining HU encounter taking place at the nosebleeeds, with one of the players being a well liked and respected forum member.

    if it was started by a random donk like me then there wouldn't be an issue.  however i do think that it could be seen as bias by any outside member/passing lurker/the villain himself.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Serious H-U Action on Sky Poker - NOW!:
    5tone - ignore Longplay.  he appears to be devoid of any sense at all.  whatever he posts is just a ramble of words.  coming in on here thinking this is a discussion about bankroll LOL. James/TK - i think its obvious that beaneh doesn't care about the fact that the HU match was highlighted.  What is the issue is that it was mentioned on the TV channel and also brought to the forums attention by TK.  TK is the most recognisable face of sky poker, and it could easily be seen as bias, especially as it is well known that you and TK are good friends outside of the poker table too. now everyone who knows TK will also know that this is not the case.  he was simply letting the forum know of a entertaining HU encounter taking place at the nosebleeeds, with one of the players being a well liked and respected forum member. if it was started by a random donk like me then there wouldn't be an issue.  however i do think that it could be seen as bias by any outside member/passing lurker/the villain himself.
    Posted by scotty77


    The most prolific thing you've ever written Scotty ........ oodles of common sense in there.

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