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tonight's 6k rebuy

TheMadMonkTheMadMonk
edited March 2016 in Poker Chat
£10 to enter and £1 rake
I took a rebuy and it cost £11 are sky charging £1 to rebuy ?
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited March 2016
    yes 

    that irritates me a little aswell
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  • TheMadMonkTheMadMonk
    edited March 2016
    Absolute disgrace if they are.if I knew that I wouldn't play the site.would have to be a mug to play on a site charging rake for rebuys
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  • EssexphilEssexphil
    edited March 2016
    Most do now-Stars has just changed to do this
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  • TheMadMonkTheMadMonk
    edited March 2016
    None that I play on do.
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  • SnufferSnuffer
    edited March 2016
    In Response to Re: tonight's 6k rebuy:
    Absolute disgrace if they are.if I knew that I wouldn't play the site.would have to be a mug to play on a site charging rake for rebuys
    Posted by TheMadMonk
    Disgrace? These tournies rely  on rebuys and rake to make the guarantee....will you refund sky if you win and they don't make the guarantee? 
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited March 2016
    In Response to Re: tonight's 6k rebuy:
    In Response to Re: tonight's 6k rebuy : Disgrace? These tournies rely  on rebuys and rake to make the guarantee....will you refund sky if you win and they don't make the guarantee? 
    Posted by Snuffer
    rake doesn,t go into the prize pool m8
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  • TheMadMonkTheMadMonk
    edited March 2016
    Snuffer.most people who play rebuys.take between 3 and 5 rebuys counting add on.on sky that would be paying between 30 and 50% rake.
    No one can beat those odds
    And if sky don't make the gtd.why are you worried.it's up to them to set it at the right level.
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  • EssexphilEssexphil
    edited March 2016
    I don't see the argument re rake on rebuys. If you play a £33 freezeout, you pay £3 rake. If you play an £11 rebuy, and rebuy twice, same result-£30 in prizepool, £3 rake. If anything, rebuys take longer than other tournaments.

    I can see an argument for reducing rake in speeds/hypers, as they are over quicker-however, Sky has (so far as I am aware) always charged rake on rebuys (with the exception of occasional individual MTTs).

    Sky has very few rebuys in comparison to other sites.
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  • EssexphilEssexphil
    edited March 2016
    In Response to Re: tonight's 6k rebuy:
    Snuffer.most people who play rebuys.take between 3 and 5 rebuys counting add on.on sky that would be paying between 30 and 50% rake. No one can beat those odds And if sky don't make the gtd.why are you worried.it's up to them to set it at the right level.
    Posted by TheMadMonk
    With respect, you are not adding the £10 into the prizepool each time. The rake is 9.09%, exactly the same as for MTTs
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  • TheMadMonkTheMadMonk
    edited March 2016
    Essex mate. I only noticed it tonight on sky for the first time
    The way you are looking at it is wrong mate ie no diff between a £33 freezeout or rebuy paying £10 plus £1 plus £1 plus £1 for a rebuy.
    Ive been playing poker for a long time now.and I don't know another player who would pay rake on rebuys/ad on s live or online.
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  • RLT16RLT16
    edited March 2016
    i played a rebuy in a casino in bristol friday night who charged rake on rebuys, just fyi
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  • EssexphilEssexphil
    edited March 2016
    In Response to Re: tonight's 6k rebuy:
    Essex mate. I only noticed it tonight on sky for the first time The way you are looking at it is wrong mate ie no diff between a £33 freezeout or rebuy paying £10 plus £1 plus £1 plus £1 for a rebuy. Ive been playing poker for a long time now.and I don't know another player who would pay rake on rebuys/ad on s live or online.
    Posted by TheMadMonk
    Been playing for about 15 years. There was a time when Sky were out of step with this, but not now. There are still some sites that charge lower rake on rebuys, but not many. Here it is £(10 plus 1) x 3, not £10 plus £3 juice. Rake live is waaaay higher than online.

    Anyway, you now know a player who is willing to pay rake on rebuys-sorry for disputin with Rasputin! GL
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  • RLT16RLT16
    edited March 2016
    I think the bigger issue is the addon break coming at a different time than advertised (this was the case in the mini atleast)
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  • TheMadMonkTheMadMonk
    edited March 2016
    Other sites don't charge rake on rebuys ( I deleted names of sites,as I shouldn't have put them up on sky poker forum,sorry for that)
    Live
    Genting don't charge rake on rebuys
    Grosvenor don't charge rake on rebuts
    Most casinos in Vegas I've played don't charge rake on rebuys
    Though the Vegas casinos do charge way above 10% rake

    I like sky poker.and will continue to play on the site,but won't be playing rebuys on the site,as long as they are charging rake on rebuys and add ons,that's just greed imo


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  • Itsover4uItsover4u
    edited March 2016
    In Response to Re: tonight's 6k rebuy:
    Snuffer.most people who play rebuys.take between 3 and 5 rebuys counting add on.on sky that would be paying between 30 and 50% rake. No one can beat those odds And if sky don't make the gtd.why are you worried.it's up to them to set it at the right level.
    Posted by TheMadMonk

    Plenty of people could beat those odds... There are players with close to 100% roi in mtts.

    The roi is much higher in mtt than any other format for the best players
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  • TheMadMonkTheMadMonk
    edited March 2016
    No player in the world would beat rake of 30/50% if they just played rebuys longterm.
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  • RLT16RLT16
    edited March 2016
    In Response to Re: tonight's 6k rebuy:
    No player in the world would beat rake of 30/50% if they just played rebuys longterm.
    Posted by TheMadMonk
    where are you getting 30/50% from?
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  • TheMadMonkTheMadMonk
    edited March 2016
    Sorry made mistake,none of my posts have been removed,thought it was because I used other sites names,I have removed names now.

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  • RLT16RLT16
    edited March 2016
    i can see them all still
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  • TheMadMonkTheMadMonk
    edited March 2016
    I personally rebuy a max of twice and take an add on ,getting charged a £1 in a £10 rebuy tournie would cost me £4 that's 40%, most players on average take between 3 and 5 (that includes add on) so they would be paying between 30% and 50% rake in the £10 rebuys.
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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited March 2016
    In Response to Re: tonight's 6k rebuy:
    I personally rebuy a max of twice and take an add on ,getting charged a £1 in a £10 rebuy tournie would cost me £4 that's 40%, most players on average take between 3 and 5 (that includes add on) so they would be paying between 30% and 50% rake in the £10 rebuys.
    Posted by TheMadMonk
    That's incorrect Mr Monk

    If you buy in, then have 2 rebuys and an add-on, you are playing a £40 Tournament, for which you are paying £4 rake, which equates to 10%. 
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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited March 2016
    In Response to Re: tonight's 6k rebuy:
    Sorry made mistake,none of my posts have been removed,thought it was because I used other sites names,I have removed names now.
    Posted by TheMadMonk
    Sky Poker would have no problem with you mentioning those 3 sites in that context. They are extremely small sites, in fact Ladbrokes traffic is now negligible. All three are on networks, and are not standalone sites.
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  • TheMadMonkTheMadMonk
    edited March 2016
    Have to disagree with you tikay ,about if I buy into a £10 rebuys tournie,take 2 rebuys and an add on,that ime playing a £40 tournie,ime playing a £10 tournie and getting charged £4 40% by sky for the privilage
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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited March 2016
    In Response to Re: tonight's 6k rebuy:
    Have to disagree with you tikay ,about if I buy into a £10 rebuys tournie,take 2 rebuys and an add on,that ime playing a £40 tournie,ime playing a £10 tournie and getting charged £4 40% by sky for the privilage
    Posted by TheMadMonk

    In which case, you are paying £44 to play an £11 MTT. 

    Anyway, happy to agree to disagree.
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  • TheMadMonkTheMadMonk
    edited March 2016
    Yep we all have different opinions on the matter it seems
    Can I ask tikay (no need to answer if you don't want to)
    Have you ever or would you play a rebuy in a casino,where they were charging you rake every time you took a rebuys or an add on.?(ime talking rebuy tournie not re entry tournie)

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  • Jac35Jac35
    edited March 2016
    In Response to Re: tonight's 6k rebuy:
    Yep we all have different opinions on the matter it seems Can I ask tikay (no need to answer if you don't want to) Have you ever or would you play a rebuy in a casino,where they were charging you rake every time you took a rebuys or an add on.?(ime talking rebuy tournie not re entry tournie)
    Posted by TheMadMonk
    I'm sure that casinos are quite happy not to charge the rake on rebuys and let us spend our money on beer, food, roulette, blackjack etc
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  • TheMadMonkTheMadMonk
    edited March 2016
    If thats the case jac,why do they charge any rake at all?
    They don't charge rake on rebuys/add ons  because no one would pay it.
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  • MattBatesMattBates
    edited March 2016
    In Response to Re: tonight's 6k rebuy:
    No player in the world would beat rake of 30/50% if they just played rebuys longterm.
    Posted by TheMadMonk
    Based on scope over a few sites I have a ROI of 85%, not crazy sample size but still 4.6k games.
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  • TheMadMonkTheMadMonk
    edited March 2016
    Your obviously a very very good player matt (I mean that ,and not being sarcastic in any way)
    Most players struggle to beat 10% rake, in fact its the 10% rake thats the difference between a player being a winning player and a losing player in a lot of cases.
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  • MattBatesMattBates
    edited March 2016

    As you said no player in the world, am I in the same league as Gayle? Should I refer to myself as universe boss?

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