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full houses on sky

Gaz680Gaz680
edited May 2016 in Poker Chat
im increasingly concerned by the amount of hands that are won by full houses on sky. i just played a sit and go £5.50 buy in the first three hands were won by a full house. sky continually pair the deck so a full house is a possibility,  i worked out one in three hands has a paired deck. if its truley random how can this continue to happen every game? the odds possibilitys say that a full house is one of the hardest to hit,yet on sky it seams to happen all to often. you should see on average a full house every 20 or so hands yet five in ten hands on a single game? come on we all no itst truley not random, and before tekay puts his two pennys worthin and says its regulated, the gambling comission on the isle of man couldnt give a monkeys chuff as. long as they get their quarter of a mill fee for the licence every year. how often do they actualy check the randomness of the servers,? i spoke to a sky call center employee and she didnt have a clue when they last got audited or checked,the random factor is done by placing a prism in a lazer to generate by binary code mayb the prizm needs to be polished now and then,come on sky we al want a fair deal no more pairing the decks every other hand
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  • Jac35Jac35
    edited May 2016
    How do Sky gain by giving us a lot of full houses in a Sng?
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  • Phantom66Phantom66
    edited May 2016
    Probabllity of the flop containing a pair is 17%, of a board containing a pair is 49% i,e every other hand that gets to the river.

    So pairs are more common than you assume. Not sure where you got your one in three hands has a paired deck?

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  • Ice_TigerIce_Tiger
    edited May 2016
    Playing live last week. I got two full houses then quads is successive hands. 

    This is unlikely to happen but does happen sometimes. In fact if it never happened, there would be more of a reason to question it.

    Show me a player that thinks online poker is rigged and you show me a losing player just about every time.
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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited May 2016


    The Gambling Commission - I assume you mean UKGC - are not based on the Isle of Man, & never have been.
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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited May 2016

    People do get SO confused with stats.
     
    One chap was saying the other day that a deck of cards has NEVER been shuffled in the exact same order twice. How does he KNOW that? He does not, because it's impossible to know. Nobody keeps a register of every shuffle on earth, so nobody knows.

    We know it's HIGHLY UNLIKELY, but that's a different thing.
     
    Just because the odds are gazilions to 1 does not mean it can't happen, or that it can't happen "out of turn".

    A million to 1 shot could come in tomorrow, then take 10 million attempts before it hits again.  It will still be a million to one shot though.

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  • Gaz680Gaz680
    edited May 2016
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky:
    How do Sky gain by giving us a lot of full houses in a Sng?
    Posted by Jac35
    im not saying sky gain any thing im just saying on this particular game the first five hands were won by a full house in total there were nine full houses dealt in that one game which seems a very high percentage of winning hands were full houses
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  • Gaz680Gaz680
    edited May 2016
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky:
    The Gambling Commission - I assume you mean UKGC - are not based on the Isle of Man, & never have been.
    Posted by Tikay10
    my mistake its alderney in the chanell islands a of shore tax haven for the rich and dodgy
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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited May 2016
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky:
    um yes the gambling commision is registerd office on the isle of man
    Posted by Gaz680
    The UKGC, who regulate Sky Poker & all UK-facing gaming sites, is based in Birmingham, West Midlands.

    Here's how to find them.

    http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/pdf/how to find us 2013.pdf

    You may be thinking of the Isle of Man Gambling Supervision Committee who are an ADR (Alternative Dispute Resolution) available to Gaming Regulators including UKGC.
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  • HiJokerHiJoker
    edited May 2016
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky:
    im not saying its rigged but there are a lot of paired decks to give the full house option and im just about break even average player
    Posted by Gaz680
    'sky continually pair the deck so a full house is a possibility'

    Yes you are
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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited May 2016
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky:
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky : my mistake its alderney in the chanell islands a of shore tax haven for the rich and dogey
    Posted by Gaz680
    Nope, that's incorrect, too.

    The UKPC which governs Sky Poker & UK facing sites is based in Birmingham, West Midlands. ALL UK based Sky Poker customers are regulated by the UKGC in Birmingham.

    A few (less than 1%) overseas based Sky Poker players (Finland, Gibraltar etc) are Regulated by the Alderney Gaming Control Commission simply because they fall outside the remit of the UKPC who ONLY regulate UK facing sites.
     
    The links are at the bottom of this, & every page, say this......


    Customers in United Kingdom: Sky Bet, Sky Casino, Sky Poker, Sky Vegas and Sky Bingo are licensed and regulated by the Gambling Commission (licence number 38718).All other customers: Sky Bet, Sky Casino, Sky Poker, Sky Vegas and Sky Bingo are licensed and regulated by the AGCC.
     
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  • Gaz680Gaz680
    edited May 2016
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky:
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky : Nope, that's incorrect, too. The UKPC which governs Sky Poker & UK facing sites is based in Birmingham, West Midlands. ALL UK based Sky Poker customers are regulated by the UKGC in Birmingham. A few (less than 1%) overseas based Sky Poker players (Finland, Gibraltar etc) are Regulated by the Alderney Gaming Control Commission simply because they fall outside the remit of the UKPC who ONLY regulate UK facing sites.   The links are at the bottom of this, & every page, say this...... Customers in United Kingdom: Sky Bet , Sky Casino , Sky Poker , Sky Vegas and Sky Bingo are licensed and regulated by the Gambling Commission (licence number 38718) . All other customers: Sky Bet , Sky Casino , Sky Poker , Sky Vegas and Sky Bingo are licensed and regulated by the AGCC .  
    Posted by Tikay10
    im not talking about the ukpc the gambling comission which oversees online gambling and betting is registerd in alderney
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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited May 2016
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky:
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky : im not talking about the ukpc the gambling comission which oversees online gambling and betting is registerd in alderney
    Posted by Gaz680
    Yes, the Alderney Gaming Commission is based in Alderney. It does not regulate Sky Poker's UK facing business. It does regulate the (far less than 1%) of overseas based Sky Poker players, as the UKGC's remit does not extend overseas.

    AGCC does not regulate any UK facing gaming sites, all UK facing sites are regulated by the UKGC, including all of Sky Poker's UK based business & players.

    AGCC only regulate non UK facing gaming.

    I have no idea why are you talking about AGCC.

    Anyway, we are going round in circles. We are playing 3 strikes & out, & you've had 3 strikes, so I'll leave you to it. 

    Have a good afternoon & evening.      
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  • Gaz680Gaz680
    edited May 2016
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky:
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky : Nope, that's incorrect, too. The UKPC which governs Sky Poker & UK facing sites is based in Birmingham, West Midlands. ALL UK based Sky Poker customers are regulated by the UKGC in Birmingham. A few (less than 1%) overseas based Sky Poker players (Finland, Gibraltar etc) are Regulated by the Alderney Gaming Control Commission simply because they fall outside the remit of the UKPC who ONLY regulate UK facing sites.   The links are at the bottom of this, & every page, say this...... Customers in United Kingdom: Sky Bet , Sky Casino , Sky Poker , Sky Vegas and Sky Bingo are licensed and regulated by the Gambling Commission (licence number 38718) . All other customers: Sky Bet , Sky Casino , Sky Poker , Sky Vegas and Sky Bingo are licensed and regulated by the AGCC .  
    Posted by Tikay10[/QUOTEyes your corecct tekay sorry i saw the botom of the page and it said al other coustomers regulated by alderney gambling comission must get my glasses perscription updated i thought it was the whole of the uk based coustomers regulated from there
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited May 2016
    i once saw 4 royal flushes in one night i had 2 of them but it was only one night in the 8 years i,ve been on sky and i play most nights.sort it out sky :)
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  • Nuggy962Nuggy962
    edited May 2016
    Random - beautiful thing

    Sometimes, when things are truly random, it appears they are not random, when in actual fact, that's just how random works. 

    Us mere mortal humans have hard time excepting that. 

    Lecister was 5000-1 to win the league - they did it though. Wouldn't say it was fixed :)

    National lottery - exact same balls drawn out for the jackpot, just random doing its work! 

    Matt bates winning a mtt.... Oh wait, terrible example! 

    Don't overthink it and get yourself worked up, only starts putting doubt into your head which will lead to you potentially making bad long term decisions in game.

    Gl sir


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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited May 2016
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky:
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky :
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky : Nope, that's incorrect, too. The UKPC which governs Sky Poker & UK facing sites is based in Birmingham, West Midlands. ALL UK based Sky Poker customers are regulated by the UKGC in Birmingham. A few (less than 1%) overseas based Sky Poker players (Finland, Gibraltar etc) are Regulated by the Alderney Gaming Control Commission simply because they fall outside the remit of the UKPC who ONLY regulate UK facing sites.   The links are at the bottom of this, & every page, say this...... Customers in United Kingdom: Sky Bet , Sky Casino , Sky Poker , Sky Vegas and Sky Bingo are licensed and regulated by the Gambling Commission (licence number 38718) . All other customers: Sky Bet , Sky Casino , Sky Poker , Sky Vegas and Sky Bingo are licensed and regulated by the AGCC .   Posted by Tikay10[/QUOTEyes your corecct tekay sorry i saw the botom of the page and it said al other coustomers regulated by alderney gambling comission must get my glasses perscription updated i thought it was the whole of the uk based coustomers regulated from there
    Posted by Gaz680

    Your red card has been rescinded.

    OK, I gotta go before my head explodes. ;)

    Take care mate, & have a good day.
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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr
    edited May 2016

    Tikay, you simply aren't paid enough money, whatever it is it should be more.

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  • Gaz680Gaz680
    edited May 2016
    on another point i just had the same hand dealt five times in a row!!! ten jack of diamonds irang coustomer service and gave them the hand history numbers and the very helpful lady gave me a free ten pound token which i used to double up with for nowt
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  • shakinacesshakinaces
    edited May 2016
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky:
    on another point i just had the same hand dealt five times in a row!!! ten jack of diamonds irang coustomer service and gave them the hand history numbers and the very helpful lady gave me a free ten pound token which i used to double up with for nowt
    Posted by Gaz680
    Poor CC are going to be inundated with spurious claims now it's been advertised that you can blag a free tenner for doing so :)
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  • DonttelmumDonttelmum
    edited May 2016
    How's your day going so far Tikay?
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  • Gaz680Gaz680
    edited May 2016
    wel i just pointed out thst to have a fair game how can you be dealt the same hand five hands in a row very helpful coustomer service must be said,they would only give you a free token if your point held up under scrutiny the hands were checked and emailed back within five min  
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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited May 2016
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky:
    How's your day going so far Tikay?
    Posted by Donttelmum




     
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  • Gaz680Gaz680
    edited May 2016
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky:
    The Gambling Commission - I assume you mean UKGC - are not based on the Isle of Man, & never have been.
    Posted by Tikay10
    i just recieved a very nice email from donna withead head of coustomer service sky poker is licenced and regulatedby the alderneygamblung comission comission but i wont go on about it any more
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  • chillingchilling
    edited May 2016
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky:
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky :  
    Posted by Tikay10
    Unrecognisable from your old passport pic.You wont get in USA with that!
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  • NoseyBonkNoseyBonk
    edited May 2016
    Tekay, there's a thread in The Rail for you and your exploding head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • DonttelmumDonttelmum
    edited May 2016
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky:
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky :  
    Posted by Tikay10
    Hopefully the swelling goes down soon.
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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited May 2016
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky:
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky : i just recieved a very nice email from donna withead head of coustomer service sky poker is licenced and regulatedby the alderneygamblung comission comission but i wont go on about it any more
    Posted by Gaz680
    Please see my previous posts in which I explained it clearly & accurately.

    Forgive me, but I'm not going to respond further.      

    This is on the bottom of every page of this website;

    "Customers in United Kingdom: Sky Bet, Sky Casino, Sky Poker, Sky Vegas and Sky Bingo are licensed and regulated by the Gambling Commission (licence number 38718).


    All other customers: Sky Bet, Sky Casino, Sky Poker, Sky Vegas and Sky Bingo are licensed and regulated by the AGCC."

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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr
    edited May 2016
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky:
    the game in question has been analysed and my hands looked at very helpful coustomer service i must admit just one bad game im a regular player every day win some lose some but this game realy blew my patience issue solved with the free token happy days just anoyed me to recieve those hands when all the hands were being won by a full house never seen a game like it
    Posted by Gaz680
    I'll give you a £10 token if you don't post again.
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  • Gaz680Gaz680
    edited May 2016
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky:
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky :  
    Posted by Tikay10
    the game in question has been analysed my hand history was checed and the very helpful coustomer service manager sent a nice email with a free ten pound token i was just anoyed to be given the same hands five hands in a row and al the hands were won by a full house al my issues were resolved the manager gave me a nice apology mail and a very quick reply so big ������to the coustomer service team iv never seen a game like it
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  • Gaz680Gaz680
    edited May 2016
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky:
    In Response to Re: full houses on sky : I'll give you a £10 token if you don't post again.
    Posted by hhyftrftdr
    you dont have to read it if you dont want to im not forcing u the issues been solved and am just pointing out my views
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