What do you need to be a good poker player.

Darkangel7

DISCIPLINE

Darkangel7

Ok was late this morning. I know what I meant to say but was worded wrong. Take the mick all you like. Don't make a blin bit of difference. Least it's got forum talking. 

gerardirl

Yep discipline, patience, fresh alert mind, always willing to evolve.

Tikay10

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Yep discipline, patience, fresh alert mind, always willing to evolve.
Posted by gerardirl

...and the ability to ignore those who describe your play as a "joke".

I was in stitches last night after you won that hand & the fella kicked off. Thought you handled it perfectly.
 
"Sorry m8, I'm new to the game, just learning....." 

aussie09

clenbuterol

Chris_Mc

Low blow chilling. Lol

HENDRIK62

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An athlete needs to train, keep fit and keep in shape and stamina. As a poker player what do you need that is on par with an athlete. Would you class poker players in the same ball park as an athlete?
Posted by Darkangel7

Didn't you meet Hhyftrftdr at MK?........just sayin ;-)

Jac35

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An athlete needs to train, keep fit and keep in shape and stamina. As a poker player what do you need that is on par with an athlete. Would you class poker players in the same ball park as an athlete?
Posted by Darkangel7

She said class poker players Jimi

This post doesn't really apply to Hhyftrftdr

Tikay10

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In Response to What attributes do you need to be a poker player? : She said class poker players Jimi This post doesn't really apply to  Hhyftrftdr
Posted by Jac35

She also said "athlete".

Case closed.

HENDRIK62

I knew I could rely on youu two gents to keep the ball rolling :-))

weecheez1

A thick skin helps :-)

unknown_username

the willing to learn

concentration

decent inernet (note to self)

rainman397

Good morning all.

All you need to be a  poker  player is £2.20 and an understanding Wife.

All the best.

Rainman397.

ned17

In my case at the moment plenty of money 

markycash

Interesting post!

I think this varies so much from person to person.

I know some successful players who grind 15 hours a day and are hugely overweight. Then if you look at Negreanu, he is very health conscious, eats well and is heavily into exercise etc.

Personally I would say some general factors which might help a player do well are...

Being able to find the correct balance between hard maths and creativity. Too much creativity can mean leaking masses of chips and if hard maths were all that mattered the game would filled with mathematicians stockpiling everyones money. So a good balance between the two is key IMO.

Strong analytical skills can help players find the best games for them, the right amount of tables for them to play, help them work out the best solutions on specific hands/tourneys etc.

An ability to reflect on your own game and constantly make changes when required.

Personally I would say one of they most important factors is to be dynamic. For example not be a particular player type such as LAG or TAG or whatever but instead to adapt to the optimal style for the players you are surrounded by or the stack of chips you have in front of you.

unknown_username

most importantly is to enjoy the game

RAKKKI

PLUMS!

Arctic666

Im new too it but patience and aggression seem to be the way forward, its applying them in the correct situatons I struggle with lol

Darkangel7

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Interesting post! I think this varies so much from person to person. I know some successful players who grind 15 hours a day and are hugely overweight. Then if you look at Negreanu, he is very health conscious, eats well and is heavily into exercise etc. Personally I would say some general factors which might help a player do well are... Being able to find the correct balance between hard maths and creativity. Too much creativity can mean leaking masses of chips and if hard maths were all that mattered the game would filled with mathematicians stockpiling everyones money. So a good balance between the two is key IMO. Strong analytical skills can help players find the best games for them, the right amount of tables for them to play, help them work out the best solutions on specific hands/tourneys etc. An ability to reflect on your own game and constantly make changes when required. Personally I would say one of they most important factors is to be dynamic. For example not be a particular player type such as LAG or TAG or whatever but instead to adapt to the optimal style for the players you are surrounded by or the stack of chips you have in front of you.
Posted by markycash

What I meant was athletes train and are athletic, how can people grind so many hours and keep their stamina up and mental awareness. It kills me after a few hours and my mind starts to wander. That's why I probably run so bad as I do. I enjoy the game but would you class players a bit like athletes? Everyone has to be on their top game and how to maintain it. Do you have to train your brain for concentration for so many hours. Some players play 13 hours a day so I hear. How do they keep their focus and become successful. There has got to be some form of something that makes them like they are.

Darkangel7

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In mtts donna, there are many , many, top players, but normally only one winner.So consistency must be the key. Do we judge ourselves by the goals we concede, or the goals we score.
Posted by chilling

Depends on how we look at things, like is the glass half full or half empty.

Did I meet H at MK? Not sure cant remember

Essexphil

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In Response to Re: What attributes do you need to be a poker player? : What I meant was athletes train and are athletic, how can people grind so many hours and keep their stamina up and mental awareness. It kills me after a few hours and my mind starts to wander. That's why I probably run so bad as I do. I enjoy the game but would you class players a bit like athletes? Everyone has to be on their top game and how to maintain it. Do you have to train your brain for concentration for so many hours. Some players play 13 hours a day so I hear. How do they keep their focus and become successful. There has got to be some form of something that makes them like they are.
Posted by Darkangel7

Key to this is knowing your own limits. No-one can grind for ever, and everyone has optimal amounts of time (and numbers of tables). This is one of the reasons why a lot of good poker players (and, coincidentally, me) are ex-chess players, used to concentrating for hours knowing you are often only as good as your one bad play...

I would recommend any regular player thinks carefully about how long they will play for on any given day, and what their maximum and typical amount of time should be

Darkangel7

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In Response to Re: What attributes do you need to be a poker player? : Key to this is knowing your own limits. No-one can grind for ever, and everyone has optimal amounts of time (and numbers of tables). This is one of the reasons why a lot of good poker players (and, coincidentally, me) are ex-chess players, used to concentrating for hours knowing you are often only as good as your one bad play... I would recommend any regular player thinks carefully about how long they will play for on any given day, and what their maximum and typical amount of time should be
Posted by Essexphil

Wow Phil that's intresting. Did you play professionally? That in itself is something I never grasped how to play unfortunately.

Essexphil

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In Response to Re: What attributes do you need to be a poker player? : Wow Phil that's intresting. Did you play professionally? That in itself is something I never grasped how to play unfortunately.
Posted by Darkangel7

No-i peaked at 11, when I was ranked 4th in the world for under 12s. Junior international/County player, but wine women and song took over

Darkangel7

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In Response to Re: What attributes do you need to be a poker player? : No-i peaked at 11, when I was ranked 4th in the world for under 12s. Junior international/County player, but wine women and song took over
Posted by Essexphil

Omg that is an amazing achievement for someone so young. Something to brag about too. Bit too young at 11 though for wine women and song wasn't it

unknown_username

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In Response to Re: What do you need to be a good poker player. : Depends on how we look at things, like is the glass half full or half empty. Did I meet H at MK? Not sure cant remember
Posted by Darkangel7

In my case the glass is usually Empty .....who's round is it?

Darkangel7

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In Response to Re: What do you need to be a good poker player. : In my case the glass is usually Empty .....who's round is it?
Posted by POKERTREV

Craigs lol

percival09

Analytical skills, critical thinking and the ability to execute what you've learnt are more important now than ever before in poker. Why? Simple - the techno revolution has provided us with immense software capable of calcuating extremely complicated simulations in seconds, those same simulations that would be close to impossible for any human to calculate. 

You need to be a) curious which would lead to the discovery of the aforementioned software, b) capable of analysing what you've found in your calculations, c) be able to criticially think about what you've found to help you gain greater understanding about how poker works so you can apply it effectively, which leads me nicely on to d) execution. It's all well & good studying and roughly knowing how a spot should work, or watching a Sauce video and thinking you would make the same decisions, but in real time it's a completely different story. You have to incorporate all that you've learnt previously, and then apply it in the 15-30 seconds time that you have to make your decision. And of course once you think you've got a solid game, you need to be able to adjust to your opponents' style of play because poker is one of those beautifully complex games where each opponent is likely to be playing a different strategy in every single spot to another opponent, meaning there's a different optimal response in every single spot. Fun!!!

Like most other things in life, this bunch of stuff is usually required: work-ethic, dedication, perhaps knowing the right people, enjoyment, etc. 

percival09

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Does the 15-30 seconds not shrink dramatically when a player is multi-tabling?
Posted by chilling

ja effectively, but someone who is multi-tabling should be very comfortable with the majority of decisions that have to made in poker, i.e. automatic decisions. The more experience someone gains, theoretically they should be more able to play multi-tables. Of course the automatic decisions don't turn much of a significant net profit against other competent players because they'll be roughly doing the same thing, it's the more complex spots that make people the $$$. The less mistakes you make = the more money you make. sounds easy :?

Aerionz

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Interesting post! I think this varies so much from person to person. I know some successful players who grind 15 hours a day and are hugely overweight. Then if you look at Negreanu, he is very health conscious, eats well and is heavily into exercise etc. Personally I would say some general factors which might help a player do well are... Being able to find the correct balance between hard maths and creativity. Too much creativity can mean leaking masses of chips and if hard maths were all that mattered the game would filled with mathematicians stockpiling everyones money. So a good balance between the two is key IMO. Strong analytical skills can help players find the best games for them, the right amount of tables for them to play, help them work out the best solutions on specific hands/tourneys etc. An ability to reflect on your own game and constantly make changes when required. Personally I would say one of they most important factors is to be dynamic. For example not be a particular player type such as LAG or TAG or whatever but instead to adapt to the optimal style for the players you are surrounded by or the stack of chips you have in front of you.
Posted by markycash

Negreanu is paid a $3 million annual salary. You can't really compare that to your average pro, who needs to grind just to pay the bills and put food on the table.

hhyftrftdr

Just been down the gym for 17 hours.

Darkangel7

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Just been down the gym for 17 hours.
Posted by hhyftrftdr

omg H lol