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The Joys of PLO8
Some of you have already discovered the joys of Omaha Hi Lo on Sky Poker and the merry band of reprobates that play a game where you get dealt 4 cards and try and win 2 pots. Surely by simple maths this is 4 times as much fun as holdem!
In holdem there are 169 starting hands, in Omaha there are 16,432!! (Overuse of exclamation mark for Tikay's benefit)
In Omaha Hi Lo the Holy Grail of starting hands is AA23 with two suits, it ranks 1st out of 16,432 starting hands. This is a starting hand to die for, or at the very least to have a sharp intake of breath when you see it. After all you have a pair of aces, two nut flush draws, the nut low draw and the second nut low draw, what's not to like? Surely a dead cert winner, you would put your house on it wouldn't you? And the car and the wife.
Compare that to the hand ranked 14,112th (I looked that up too), 5h6d7s9h. It has an awful low draw, only one suit (which my Ah3h had absolutely crushed by the way) and the highest card was a 9. I'm sure Tikay once said never play a hand with a 9 in it.
So we go to war, David against Goliath, some peasant called Sparticus against the Garrisons of Rome, the mighty Russian army against some Afganistan sheep herders. It's a foregone conclusion surely?
See below for the result, I'll be back playing soon..... honestly.
Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
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| Enut | Small blind | 300.00 | 300.00 | 1955.00 | |
| tikay1 | Big blind | 600.00 | 900.00 | 2095.00 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| vagasbin | Fold | ||||
| xxxx | Raise | 1200.00 | 2100.00 | 375.00 | |
| Enut | All-in | 1955.00 | 4055.00 | 0.00 | |
| tikay1 | Fold | ||||
| xxxx | All-in | 375.00 | 4430.00 | 0.00 | |
| Enut | Unmatched bet | 680.00 | 3750.00 | 680.00 | |
| Enut | Show |
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| xxxx | Show |
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| Turn | |||||
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| River | |||||
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| xxxx | Win high | Straight to the 10 | 3750.00 | 3750.00 | |
| No qualifying low hand | |||||
Comments
If so I would like to emphasise the importance of having the BTN and being in position!!!!! (some more !'s for Tikay I know how he loves them).
If it wasn't me then very unlucky mate, opponent is obviously a complete donk
Yes Mark it was you. I think you had knocked me out of one shortly before that too, hitting a 3 outer or some such twaddle on the river. Have you no guilt or compassion? How do you sleep at night?
Anyway enough of this, anyone for a PLO8 DYM?
Regged for the games.
Edit: I see we have a revenge game on, glgl
game. I registered and didn't realise it was not Holdem. Imagine my surprise
when I received 4 cards. After a couple of minutes I realised I was in a game I knew
nothing about but I remembered somewhere seeing on the sky poker
channel that you have to use 2 best cards from your hand. So off I started
and about half way through the first hour I was doing okay. Anyway it was quite enjoyable although I found I had to actually think a lot more which was a bit difficult
for me lol. Imagine my surprise then to finish 2nd. Im sure it was more by luck than judgement but I really enjoyed playing so I might venture into some more PLO8
in the future and see how I get on.
But here's the thing........
I'm pretty sure that Freeroll was PLO, not PLO8.
I'd like a quid for every time I've sat in a PLO game thinking it was PLO8, & vice-versa. I played a PLO Tourney once on 'Stars for 2 hours before I realised it was not PLO8, & so I was on the receiving end of so many chat box comments that were, err, less than complimentary.
So PLEASE be careful if you plan to play any more PLO8. Or PLO.......
Congrats on the score Nanny!
All the players said "no worries, good luck M8". See "say what you mean".....
On a low only flop, multi-way, I pretty much throw 2 pair away. At BEST we are pulling for half the pot, & if wheel cards are being held everywhere, we can end up with zilch.
I prefer a low-variance line in SNG's & DYM's, too, but the more "lively" sorts might well go with 2 pair.
It's much clearer in PLO, however, but if we are multi-way - & we usually are - I much prefer top two, rather than bottom two, or top & bottom.
I thought they were all called PLO8 but I think you are right it was
P.L.O. You got to laugh. I thought they were the same game.
Oh well maybe its time to look at some videos.
Good luck whatever you play
Nannypat66
You can use different combination of your hole and board cards for each pot.
Videos here I come lol.
Thought you were a tad unlucky in the £11er, but that was some tough table, most of whom are experienced & profitable at PLO8.
I do bang on a bit, maybe too much, about how much more fun it is to play PLO & PLO8, but it's really noticeable how many players say what you just said - it re-ignites their love for poker. And yes, it is MUCH easier to be profitable (or lose less) than NLH, where there are so few "value spots" these days.
If you have any questions on the 4 card game, don't hesitate to ask, & I'll try & answer, or get some who actually knows how to play the game to reply.
^^^^
Ha, I saw that hand. His play is not as bad as it may look at first sight, though I'm not sure I can ever make that play. He KNEW you had some sort of Ace, & that was part of his logic. If he knew your actual hand, I fancy he'd still get it in pre.
You did nothing wrong really. Blinds are 100-200, & once you 3 bet it played itself. You don't really have the option of limping in to se a "safe" flop at that point.
From the villain's perspective - who, by the way is VERY good, (had a 6 game clean sweep last night, all at £11 & £16.50) - I guess his logic was that he is never THAT far behind in PLO8.
Bet you'd be surprised to know the pre-flop odds were almost a flip.
You had 55% equity, he had 45% equity. Pretty much a flip.
You were 37% to scoop, he was 27% to scoop.
You win the high 64% of the time, he wins the high 36% of the time.
You get the Low 12% of the time, he gets it 42%.
Hands in PLO8 run very close together, as you can see, but if you could re-run that coup 10,000 times, you'd be comfortably ahead. Looking at single hands in isolation is meaningless really, the long term maths is more important.