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** JACKPOT SYNDICATE ** OPPS BUSTED FIRST LEG TODAY (FRI 12TH MAY)

StayOrGoStayOrGo
edited May 2017 in Betting Chat
There is a potential "two perm" option in case the "banker" gets beat too.
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited May 2017
    Final perm option below:

     

    		FRIDAY 12/05/17 CHESTER











    LEG/TIME PERM ONE PERM TWO PERM THREE SHORTLIST FOR, A-E MORN LAT DR
    LEG ONE






    1.50PM 7f LD FR 04 – ICE SLICE
    		04 – ICE SLICE 04 - ICE SLICE 15/2 15/2 4
    1.50PM 7f LD FR 05 – GABRIAL'S KAKA

    		05 - GABRIAL'S KAKA 10/1 10/1 3
    1.50PM 7f LD FR 09 - EL HAYEM 09 - EL HAYEM 09 - EL HAYEM 09 - EL HAYEM 15/8 15/8 2
    1.50PM 7f LD FR


    		11 - MICHELLE STROGOFF 14/1 14/1 1
    LEG TWO






    2.25PM 1m2f LD FR
    		03 - BAY OF POETS 08 – MIRAGE DANCER 03 - BAY OF POETS 6/1 6/1 1
    2.25PM 1m2f LD FR 04 - CLIFFS OF MOHER 04 - CLIFFS OF MOHER 04 - CLIFFS OF MOHER 04 - CLIFFS OF MOHER 4/6 4/6 7
    2.25PM 1m2f LD FR
    		08 - MIRAGE DANCER
    		08 - MIRAGE DANCER 5/1 5/1 6
    LEG THREE






    3.00PM 5f LD FR 05 – ROSABELLE 05 – ROSABELLE 05 – ROSABELLE 02 - TOMILY 13/2 7/1 5
    3.00PM 5f LD FR 10 - EVERGATE 10 - EVERGATE 10 - EVERGATE 03 - RICH AND FAMOUS 5/1 9/2 8
    3.00PM 5f LD FR 03 - RICH AND FAMOUS 06 - PARTITIA 07 - COPPER KNIGHT 05 - ROSABELLE 9/2 4/1 1
    3.00PM 5f LD FR

    		03 - RICH AND FAMOUS 06 - PARTITIA 6/1 6/1 6
    3.00PM 5f LD FR


    		07 - COPPER KNIGHT 15/2 15/2 4
    3.00PM 5f LD FR


    		10 - EVERGATE 7/2 7/2 3
    LEG FOUR






    3.35PM 1m5f LD FR 09 - WALL OF FIRE 09 - WALL OF FIRE 06 - MIDTERM 06 - MIDTERM 5/1 11/2 12
    3.35PM 1m5f LD FR 08 - US ARMY RANGER 08 - US ARMY RANGER 08 - US ARMY RANGER 08 - US ARMY RANGER 9/4 9/4 9
    3.35PM 1m5f LD FR 06 - MIDTERM 11 - WINNING STORY
    		09 - WALL OF FIRE 12/1 10/1 5
    3.35PM 1m5f LD FR 10 - WESTERN HYMN

    		10 - WESTERN HYMN 8/1 8/1 3
    3.35PM 1m5f LD FR


    		11 - WINNING STORY 9/1 9/1 8
    3.35PM 1m5f LD FR


    		12 - DIAMONDS POUR MOI 11/1 11/1 1
    LEG FIVE






    4.05PM 7f LD FR


    		02 – CHEERFILLY 9/1 9/1 1
    4.05PM 7f LD FR 03 - DESERT RAIN 03 - DESERT RAIN 03 - DESERT RAIN 03 - DESERT RAIN 9/4 5/2 7
    4.05PM 7f LD FR 04 - GYMNASTE 04 - GYMNASTE 04 - GYMNASTE 04 - GYMNASTE 15/8 2/1 4
    4.05PM 7f LD FR
    		05 - HIGHLAND PASS 05 - HIGHLAND PASS 05 - HIGHLAND PASS 5/1 5/1 3
    4.05PM 7f LD FR

    		07 – SET IN STONE 07 – SET IN STONE 11/1 8/1 6
    LEG SIX






    4.35PM 5f LD FR 02 - DOUBLE UP 02 - DOUBLE UP 02 - DOUBLE UP 02 - DOUBLE UP 7/2 7/2 2
    4.35PM 5f LD FR 03 - DUKE OF FIRENZE 08 - REFLEKTOR
    		03 - DUKE OF FIRENZE 8/1 8/1 4
    4.35PM 5f LD FR 05 - JUDICIAL 05 - JUDICIAL 05 - JUDICIAL 05 - JUDICIAL 2/1 2/1 3
    4.35PM 5f LD FR


    		08 – CANNY KOOL 12/1 10/1 1
    4.35PM 5f LD FR


    		08 - REFLEKTOR 9/1 17/2 5
    4.35PM 5f LD FR


    		09 - TAEXALI 9/1 9/1 7
    NO OF LINES 3*1*3*4*2*3 = 216 1*3*3*3*3*3 = 243 2*2*4*2*4*2 = 256



    PERM COST 216 LINES AT 50P = £108 243 LINES AT 50P = £121.50 256 LINES @ 50P = £128











    TOTAL COST £357.50





    My Summary
    DateDescriptionSelectionAmount
    <td class="ng-bind
    DateBet RefW/P/S StakeBet TypeEvent / MarketSelectionHcpPriceResultStatusTotal StakeReturn
    12/05/17 1:45:56 PM 2849878/3115167 Jackpot - Pick 613:504 - Ice Slice0 OpenO£128.00£0.00
        Jackpot9 - El Hayem0 Open   
        Jackpot4 - Cliffs Of Moher0 Open   
        Jackpot8 - Mirage Dancer0 Open   
        Jackpot3 - Rich And Famous0 Open   
        Jackpot5 - Rosabelle0 Open   
        Jackpot7 - Copper Knight0 Open   
        Jackpot10 - Evergate0 Open   
        Jackpot6 - Midterm0 Open   
        Jackpot8 - Us Army Ranger0 Open   
        Jackpot3 - Desert Rain0 Open   
        Jackpot4 - Gymnaste0 Open   
        Jackpot5 - Highland Pass0 Open   
        Jackpot7 - Set In Stone0 Open   
        Jackpot2 - Double Up0 Open   
        Jackpot5 - Judicial0 Open   
    12/05/17 1:45:56 PM 2849878/3115167 Jackpot - Pick 6    OpenO£128.00£0.00
    12/05/17 1:42:37 PM 2849851/3115139 Jackpot - Pick 613:504 - Ice Slice0 OpenO£108.00£0.00
        Jackpot5 - Gabrial's Kaka0 Open   
        Jackpot9 - El Hayem0 Open   
        Jackpot4 - Cliffs Of Moher0 Open   
        Jackpot3 - Rich And Famous0 Open   
        Jackpot5 - Rosabelle0 Open   
        Jackpot10 - Evergate0 Open   
        Jackpot6 - Midterm0 Open   
        Jackpot8 - Us Army Ranger0 Open   
        Jackpot9 - Wall of Fire0 Open   
        Jackpot10 - Western Hymn0 Open   
        Jackpot3 - Desert Rain0 Open   
        Jackpot4 - Gymnaste0 Open   
        Jackpot2 - Double Up0 Open   
        Jackpot3 - Duke Of Firenze0 Open   
        Jackpot5 - Judicial0 Open   
    12/05/17 1:42:37 PM 2849851/3115139 Jackpot - Pick 6    OpenO£108.00£0.00
    12/05/17 1:39:50 PM 2849833/3115121 Jackpot - Pick 613:509 - El Hayem0 OpenO£121.50£0.00
        Jackpot3 - Bay Of Poets0
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  • zadoczadoc
    edited May 2017


       Would we need to be sole winners to make a profit?
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited May 2017
    In Response to Re: ** JACKPOT SYNDICATE ** WE COULD GO AGAIN TOMORROW (FRI) AT CHESTER WITH A £10K G CARD ** IF WE CAN GALVANISE TROOPS AGAIN? ** SO ANOTHER ATTEMPT? OR DO WE NEED A REST? :=):
       Would we need to be sole winners to make a profit?
    Posted by zadoc
    No, not at all.

    Sole winners for a 50p line = £5K.

    Say 10 units win, unlikely unless nearly all favs win, then that's £500.

    But I would say that unless every favourite won, that's the least we'd win if we got it. With towards £5K being more likely.

    I'd say a 1 in 8 chance of winning, but average win = /> 8 times stake as good chance of being sole winner if we got it.

    Cheers,

    G
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  • bearacebearace
    edited May 2017
    I think the troops are resting at the moment judging by the lack of response so far! It could be a case of pushing your luck to soon or striking while the iron is hot ..... take your pick!
         I would always back you if you fancy it but perhaps wait to see what the form guys say after they have had chance to look at the card.There is also the possibility of a change of going during the meeting with some heavy downpours forecast which could impact on our selections after the bet has been placed.
         You are the best judje of whether or not it represents value so that should be your decision.
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  • IrishRoseIrishRose
    edited May 2017
    Just WOW - that's all I can say lol

    Snuffer kindly pointed me in the direction of this thread as I rarely pop into this section of chat as I have zero knowledge of horses so I'd be useless in selection help.  My personal fav is to bet on a grey horse lol - I'm sure that's very scientific.....

    Happy to go along with whatever you decide Mr StayorGo.

    Good luck all x
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited May 2017
    In Response to Re: ** JACKPOT SYNDICATE ** WE COULD GO AGAIN TOMORROW (FRI) AT CHESTER WITH A £10K G CARD ** IF WE CAN GALVANISE TROOPS AGAIN? ** SO ANOTHER ATTEMPT? OR DO WE NEED A REST? :=):
    I think the troops are resting at the moment judging by the lack of response so far! It could be a case of pushing your luck to soon or striking while the iron is hot ..... take your pick!      I would always back you if you fancy it but perhaps wait to see what the form guys say after they have had chance to look at the card.There is also the possibility of a change of going during the meeting with some heavy downpours forecast which could impact on our selections after the bet has been placed.      You are the best judje of whether or not it represents value so that should be your decision.
    Posted by bearace
    Yeh, not sure where the guys are.

    Thanks for the weather heads up. I checked bbc.co.uk/weather for Chester and it looks like just some showers which should have minimal impact, but good to keep an eye in case it changes. TY
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  • SnufferSnuffer
    edited May 2017
    I'm free from 11ish onwards tommorow whatever you decide
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited May 2017
    well done today peeps, just got in and wont have time to help out but if we go good luck
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  • DollieDollie
    edited May 2017
    I will happily go along with whatever the experts decide.
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited May 2017
    In Response to Re: ** JACKPOT SYNDICATE ** WE COULD GO AGAIN TOMORROW (FRI 12TH MAY) AT CHESTER WITH A £10K G CARD ** IF WE CAN GALVANISE TROOPS AGAIN? ** SO ANOTHER ATTEMPT? OR DO WE NEED A REST? :=):
    well done today peeps, just got in and wont have time to help out but if we go good luck
    Posted by vaigret
    Cheers Vaigret, it was largely down to you that we didn't just go with the banker in the 5th leg, so you should take a lot of the credit for this, well done mate!
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  • wynne1938wynne1938
    edited May 2017
    I have done my analysis for tomorrrow and It is a green flag to go ahead.
    Let me know if you want me to put up my initial short/long list.
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited May 2017
    FYI, Roger.

    We'll give it till 10.30pm and if we don't hear anything from the guys, we'll give it a miss and we can wallow in our success for a bit longer. :=)
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited May 2017
    In Response to Re: ** JACKPOT SYNDICATE ** WE COULD GO AGAIN TOMORROW (FRI 12TH MAY) AT CHESTER WITH A £10K G CARD ** IF WE CAN GALVANISE TROOPS AGAIN? ** SO ANOTHER ATTEMPT? OR DO WE NEED A REST? :=):
    In Response to Re: ** JACKPOT SYNDICATE ** WE COULD GO AGAIN TOMORROW (FRI 12TH MAY) AT CHESTER WITH A £10K G CARD ** IF WE CAN GALVANISE TROOPS AGAIN? ** SO ANOTHER ATTEMPT? OR DO WE NEED A REST? :=) : Cheers Vaigret, it was largely down to you that we didn't just go with the banker in the 5th leg, so you should take a lot of the credit for this, well done mate!
    Posted by StayOrGo
    Thanks mate it was a pleasure LOL
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  • wynne1938wynne1938
    edited May 2017
    My final list.Feeling lucky.

    Date  /  TimeBet TypeLegSortEvent/SelectionResultStakeReference11 May 17 / 21:51 Sixfold(s) 1 Standard 3:35 Chester  –  Win Us Army Ranger @ Guaranteed Price (9/4) – £14.40O/19249635/0000055/F 2 Standard 3:35 Chester  –  Win Midterm @ Guaranteed Price (4/1) – 3 Standard 3:35 Chester  –  Win Western Hymn @ Guaranteed Price (7/1) – 4 Standard 3:35 Chester  –  Win Winning Story @ Guaranteed Price (8/1) – 5 Standard 4:05 Chester  –  Win Gymnaste @ Guaranteed Price (11/10) – 6 Standard 4:05 Chester  –  Win Desert Rain @ Guaranteed Price (7/4) – 7 Standard 4:35 Chester  –  Win Judicial @ Guaranteed Price (15/8) – 8 Standard 4:35 Chester  –  Win Double Up @ Guaranteed Price (10/3) – 9 Standard 1:50 Chester  –  Win El Hayem @ Guaranteed Price (5/2) – 10 Standard 1:50 Chester  –  Win Rene Mathis @ Guaranteed Price (7/1) – 11 Standard 1:50 Chester  –  Win Sound Advice @ Guaranteed Price (12/1) – 12 Standard 2:25 Chester  –  Win Cliffs Of Moher @ Guaranteed Price (4/6) – 13 Standard 2:25 Chester  –  Win Bay Of Poets @ Guaranteed Price (11/2) – 14 Standard 3:00 Chester  –  Win Rosabelle @ Guaranteed Price (4/1) – 15 Standard 3:00 Chester  –  Win Evergate @ Guaranteed Price (9/2) – 16 Standard 3:00 Chester  –  Win Partitia @ Guaranteed Price (6/1) – Print page
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  • mkgunnermkgunner
    edited May 2017
    well done again today guys
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  • Phantom66Phantom66
    edited May 2017
    I will be wading thru the chester card 1st thing as there are 2 EPRs and a pick7 so if you are going for it I will chip in if I have anything to add.
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited May 2017
    OK. I'm getting an early night tonight. (As I stayed up all last night)

    Roger if people want to go for it, then if you could try and get the prepped card to me by 10am tomorrow, that would be great.

    We can then make a late decision again.

    Cheers,

    G
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited May 2017
    IM game of course 
    no work tomorrow so can do non runners etc with ease.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited May 2017
    My first look for tomorrow comes up with

    1.50 Rene Mathis won last time and handicapper has kept him on same mark. Drawn 5 so not too bad

    2.25 Mirage Dancer won once and Stoute won this with Kris Kin. On his win the second third and fourth have franked form Sorry I know this puts doubt on the banker again

    3.00 Rosabelle not be out of first two three times at this C/D and drawn 1

    3.35 Western Hymn hopefully he can get over his quirks

    4.05 Cheerfilly Drawn 1 and trainer has won two out of last three runnings

    4.40 Duke of Firenze 6th in abbaye last year , winner Marsha won well at Newmarket and trainer had winner today and knows how to handle sprinters

    5.05 St Marys 10-1 ok not in jackpot but I have a feeling for this and Baldings produce good apprentices
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited May 2017
    OK, it looks like a possible go.

    Roger if you could please do the spreadsheet when you get a chance (anytime before 10am tomorrow will be great).

    I will then get spreadsheet out to removers for 11am.

    We can pick 3 naps each again.

    It's not a definite, but a "likely", I would suggest.

    Cheers,

    G
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited May 2017
    this looks tougher than todays card im struggling to fancy anything in the last. i would really like a banker here to allow more selections in the few open races. but i like the look of mirage dancer. cliffs of mohar won well but was in ireland which is not my strong point at all. anybody know anything about race? (in syndicate or not?).

    evergate withdrew from todays last for the 3pm and a ok draw so connections there must fancy there chance. that with roseabelle will be a good race.

    15 35 i can see a bigger priced horse winning.

    we really need lots of voices on this 1 im thinking.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited May 2017
    In Response to Re: ** JACKPOT SYNDICATE ** WE COULD GO AGAIN TOMORROW (FRI 12TH MAY) AT CHESTER WITH A £10K G CARD ** IF WE CAN GALVANISE TROOPS AGAIN? ** SO ANOTHER ATTEMPT? OR DO WE NEED A REST? :=):
    this looks tougher than todays card im struggling to fancy anything in the last. i would really like a banker here to allow more selections in the few open races. but i like the look of mirage dancer. cliffs of mohar won well but was in ireland which is not my strong point at all. anybody know anything about race? (in syndicate or not?). evergate withdrew from todays last for the 3pm and a ok draw so connections there must fancy there chance. that with roseabelle will be a good race. 15 35 i can see a bigger priced horse winning. we really need lots of voices on this 1 im thinking.
    Posted by MICKYBLUE
    great minds think alike with Mirage Dancer and you are right 3.35 is one tough race
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  • MISTY4MEMISTY4ME
    edited May 2017
    I've been having a look at the Friday Chester card, and I agree with MICKYB and VAIGRET that it is a lot more difficult than Thursday's card. I'm definitely struggling to see a banker with confidence. 
    CLIFFS OF MOHER is this year's hyped Superstar Ballydoyle Derby horse according to my Dad, who told me to watch out for it a month ago. I follow all Aidan O'Brien's horses, but I always like to see them run first in their 3-y-o career. His horses are in fantastic form, and it may well win, it's obviously got more speed than VENICE BEACH & Co. from Thursday, due to it being his only entry in the 2.25 race today, so it must be pretty good, but I think Michael Stoute's MIRAGE DANCER must be another horse with a huge amount of potential too, 'coz he often targets this race with his best 3-y-o, and I certainly wouldn't leave it out of any perm.
    Obviously I'm not in the syndicate, but I would be taking a cautious view and sitting on my 'STACK' and waiting for a better spot.... (:D}

     
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  • Phantom66Phantom66
    edited May 2017
    Tough to make the case for a single banker strategy.

    I would be interested to see what plan B looks like but there are some pretty open races over the longer distances.

    edit:Cliffs of Moher has been backed well into odds on territory so statistically you have your banker. Not as easy to oppose as Dahik was yesterday but there are 2 other genuine contenders in Bay of Poets and Mirage Dancer.

    I wont be around later so GL if you are going for it.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited May 2017
    im interested in a plan b as well. cliffs of moher is only the real banker, the rest of fav might win but there are lots of others with plus next to them 

    found my fancy in the last and just noticed vaigret has backed it aswell :) duke of firenze.

    quite a few non runners already aswell which ill post on correct thread once its here
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited May 2017
    In Response to Re: ** JACKPOT SYNDICATE ** WE COULD GO AGAIN TOMORROW (FRI 12TH MAY) AT CHESTER WITH A £10K G CARD ** IF WE CAN GALVANISE TROOPS AGAIN? ** SO ANOTHER ATTEMPT? OR DO WE NEED A REST? :=):
    im interested in a plan b as well. cliffs of moher is only the real banker, the rest of fav might win but there are lots of others with plus next to them  found my fancy in the last and just noticed vaigret has backed it aswell :) duke of firenze. quite a few non runners already aswell which ill post on correct thread once its here
    Posted by MICKYBLUE
    Great minds again Micky
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  • Phantom66Phantom66
    edited May 2017
    Final thoughts...

    Weather could have a say, rain is expected the forecast said "light showers" but the weather radar suggests could be more.


    (Zoom in and "play" to see if anything is landing on Chester)

    Definitely worth keeping an eye on - Cant see it change to soft but could take the sting out of it.

    On the hard to pick 435, I have napped Judicial but I do see alot of danger.

    Duke of Firenze as already mentioned, Canny Kool who has course form and the draw to suit it with a strong front run.

    Reflektor was withdrawn yesterday and runs today and maybe those showers will help.

    Just spotted this article on SL. Seems Chester May festival day 3 is not traditionally a great day for favourites...


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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited May 2017
    Hi guys, just looking at the card now, will get back to you shortly.
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited May 2017
    I am looking at a two or three perm strategy, I will post a potential idea here (give me an hour) and you guys can decide if you think we should attempt it.
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited May 2017
    Hi guys.

    Getting a bit short of time, but if you could please give the three perm option on the opening post your approval or not by 12.30pm.

    I will then use NAP's selections and removal data to work out the A,B,C,D,E's if it is a GO.

    Cheers,

    G
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