In Response to Re: Vaigrets Alternative perms : No problem, by the very nature of what we are doing, one will succeed one day the other the next (hopefully for the syndicate anyway). Going forward, I will record each of our profit and loss (The syndicate and yours), to get a longer term picture as time goes by. I hope you do get LEG 6. Cheers, G Posted by StayOrGo
MY ALTERNATIVE PERM Mine would be 2.05 Listen to me 2nd and Turn Turk 1st 2.35 Beat That 2nd and Brother Tedd 1st 3.05 1,2,3,4,8, 9, 12 Winner 8 Vancouver 3.40 1,3,4,6 WINNER 6 DESTINYS GOLD 4.15 1,2,3,4 WINNER 2 DAYS OF HEAVEN 4.45 3,4,5, 6 LOSER BROWNVILLE WON = 1792 x .50 p = £896 Good luck us this afternoon Posted by vaigret
HONOURS EVEN LOSER IN THE LAST HAD A FEELING COURSE WINNER WOULD DO ME
NOT A FAN OF DOING THESE WITHOUT THE NAPS AND REMOVERS BUT GRAHAM SAID FEEL FREE TO DO ONE TOMOZ SO HERE GOES 2.00 PARIS ROOFTOPS TRILLIANT ITALIAN HEIRESS LIGHTENING DANCE 2.30 FAST AND HOT AZZURI THAMES KNIGHT ART OF SWING MILKY WAY 3.05 LADWEB FREDERICKA 3.40 LONDON PRIZE STERNRUBIN CHARTBREAKER MEDBURN CUTLER 4.15 MILTON ROAD QUICK SKIPS LAD 4.45 TIME TO EXCEED THE WARRIOR 640 LINES AT 0.50 =£320 Posted by vaigret
GL V!
Yes I know what you mean re NAP's and removers but it's too much work to do it when we are not going for it.
It's just a way of people having a crack at it on their own when they think it's +ev to do so.
If someone gets particularly good results over time we can look further at their thoughts/processes.
I am all for offering people the opportunity to show their prowess, although as you know, I'm not keen on people showing how "wise" they are after the event, so this offers a fair platform for people to showcase their skills should they wish to do so.
It's a way of recording their results over time, and as such, it is yet another avenue (on top of the NAP's and REMOVERS process) for people to put "weight" behind their opinions.
Plus it is completely optional if and when they do it, so it's flexible too.
Although if one is to approach it seriously, it would be wise to only do it when you think it is +ev
This can be on a GO or a NO-GO day, either is fine.
Cheers,
G
P.S. Unless you mention otherwise, I will assume, going forward, that you want your profit and loss recorded for all perms you put forward.
In Response to Re: Vaigrets Alternative perms : GL V! Yes I know what you mean re NAP's and removers but it's too much work to do it when we are not going for it. It's just a way of people having a crack at it on their own when they think it's +ev to do so. If someone gets particularly good results over time we can look further at their thoughts/processes. I am all for offering people the opportunity to show their prowess, although as you know, I'm not keen on people showing how "wise" they are after the event, so this offers a fair platform for people to showcase their skills should they wish to do so. It's a way of recording their results over time, and as such, it is yet another avenue (on top of the NAP's and REMOVERS process) for people to put "weight" behind their opinions. Plus it is completely optional if and when they do it, so it's flexible too. Although if one is to approach it seriously, it would be wise to only do it when you think it is +ev This can be on a GO or a NO-GO day, either is fine. Cheers, G P.S. Unless you mention otherwise, I will assume, going forward, that you want your profit and loss recorded for all perms you put forward. Posted by StayOrGo
Hi G,
As regards profit and loss not worried either way only doing as I had some time and noticed your post on the other thread. The idea was to post the alternative when we had all the info and can fully understand no naps and removers on non going days. That would be a complete waste of time.
To be honest with this I just flicked through for half an hour or so and added horses to get the perm upto something like £300 . No science behind it other than that.
THIS IS MADNESS BUT WHEY HEY LETS HAVE SOME FUN AT WORCESTER TODAY 2.20 5 DESERTMORE HILL WINNER 6 CRY FURY 8 ALLOTTARAIN 2.50 1 BENEFICIAL JOE 2 DR ROBIN 4 HERES AND GHOSTS 3.20 1 DRUMLYN 7 CAPTIVA ISLAND 3.50 3 OVER THE AIR 4 SAM NOIR 12 LAKE CHAPALA 14 JIGSAW FINANCIAL 4.20 3 BURROW LANE 7 THREE STAR GENERAL 4.50 1 BUONOROTTI BOY 2 DEEBAJ 4 SAFFRON WELLS 7 ASCENDANT 768 X 50P =£384 Posted by vaigret
honestly I did get rid of Light entertainment before the first as you will see by the staking, which I had got wrong in the first place.
I seem to remember thinking your staking was initially correct. Certainly if you originally had 4 in the first leg and the rest were the same, then £384.00 would have been correct.
I knew I had got it right when I first posted but then decided to add buarotti boy in the last with the plan to get rid of Light entertainment. Then went with getting rid of Tail of Intrigue.
Then when I saw I still had light entertainment still in I thught I had messed up and got rid of that when I didn't need to.
Don't worry with this if I get it up as don't deserve it for being idiot
THE REMOVERS AND NAPPERS HAVE SPOKEN AND SO THE ALTERNATIVE ONE PERM OK £.00 OVER IS 2.10 1 2 3 4 2.40 2 3 7 9 10 3.10 1 2 5 3.40 3 4 5 7 9 4.10 7 4.40 1 12 600 LINES AT 0.50P =£300 WORRIED RE ROMEO IS BLEEDING AND ONLY ONE IN 4.10 Posted by vaigret
SORTED AS ABOVE
utility non runner so having only one in 4.10 is one small worry over
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REALLY WORRIED RE bROWNVILLE
NOT A FAN OF DOING THESE WITHOUT THE NAPS AND REMOVERS BUT GRAHAM SAID FEEL FREE TO DO ONE TOMOZ SO HERE GOES
2.00 PARIS ROOFTOPS
TRILLIANT
ITALIAN HEIRESS
LIGHTENING DANCE WIN
2.30
FAST AND HOT
AZZURI
THAMES KNIGHT ALL LOST
ART OF SWING
MILKY WAY
3.05 LADWEB
FREDERICKA BOTH LOST
3.40
LONDON PRIZE WIN
STERNRUBIN
CHARTBREAKER
MEDBURN CUTLER
4.15 MILTON ROAD WIN
QUICK SKIPS LAD
4.45
TIME TO EXCEED
THE WARRIOR
640 LINES AT 0.50 =£320
Hi G,
As regards profit and loss not worried either way only doing as I had some time and noticed your post on the other thread. The idea was to post the alternative when we had all the info and can fully understand no naps and removers on non going days. That would be a complete waste of time.
To be honest with this I just flicked through for half an hour or so and added horses to get the perm upto something like £300 . No science behind it other than that.
Just hope it doesn't come up.
Father V
2.00; 1,6,7,10
2.30; 4
3.00; 1,3,4
3.30; 1,2,3,4,8
4.00; 1,3,5,10
4.30 ;1,3,5
720 x 50p =£360
LOSER
I'm glad we passed though, so at least no syndicate money was lost.
Cheers,
G
2.20
5 DESERTMORE HILL WINNER
6 CRY FURY
8 ALLOTTARAIN
2.50
1 BENEFICIAL JOE ALL LOSERS
2 DR ROBIN
4 HERES AND GHOSTS
3.20
1 DRUMLYN WINNER
7 CAPTIVA ISLAND
3.50
3 OVER THE AIR
4 SAM NOIR
12 LAKE CHAPALA
14 JIGSAW FINANCIAL WINNER
4.20
3 BURROW LANE
7 THREE STAR GENERAL WINNER
4.50
1 BUONOROTTI BOY
2 DEEBAJ
4 SAFFRON WELLS
7 ASCENDANT WINNER
768 X 50P =£384
I knew I had got it right when I first posted but then decided to add buarotti boy in the last with the plan to get rid of Light entertainment. Then went with getting rid of Tail of Intrigue.
Then when I saw I still had light entertainment still in I thught I had messed up and got rid of that when I didn't need to.
Don't worry with this if I get it up as don't deserve it for being idiot
I know mate but its for my own piece of mind, embarrassing and senility kicking in !!!!!
2.15:1 WINNER & 2
2.45: 2,3,4,7 all losers
3.15 : 1, 5, 6 WINNER
3.45 :2,4,5,10 WINNER
4.15 3 & 7 LOSERS
4.45: 3,5,6,7 LOSERS
768 @ 50p =£384
2.15 : 1 WINNER
2.45: 1,2,3,4,5 all losers
3.15: 1,5,6 WINNER
3.45: 2,4,5,10 WINNER
4.15: 3,7,8 WINNER
4.45: 5,6,7 LOSERS
540 @ 0.50p = £270
2.30 - 8, 15, 16 1st 2nd and 3rd
3.05 - 3, 7, 13 7 = 3rd
3.40 - 6, 14 LOST AND LOST
4.20 - 7, 12, 18
5.00 - 4,7,12
5.35 - 12, 13
324 bets at 0.10p = £32.40
2.10
1
2
3 ALL LOST
4
2.40
2
3
7 ALL LOST
9
10
3.10
1 WINNER
2
5
3.40
3
4
5
7
9 WINNER
4.10
7 LOST
4.40
1
12
600 LINES AT 0.50P =£300
WORRIED RE ROMEO IS BLEEDING AND ONLY ONE IN 4.10
utility non runner so having only one in 4.10 is one small worry over
2.10
1,3,4,6 ALL LOST
2.40
2,4, 7,,10 ALL LOST
3.10
1,2,4 WINNER 1
3.40
1,3,4, 5,9 WINNER 9
4.10
7 LOST
4.40
12
240 lines at 50p =£120