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Tough decision?
Ok I have been playing in a tournament for about 2 1/2 hours. 400 people started and now you are down to 51 which is exactly ONE PLACE OUT OF THE MONEY. You have 5000 chips, are on the button with the blinds at 300/600 ante 50.
A solid player in middle position moves ALL IN for 6000 chips and it folds around to you. You have JJ. Just to cash this tournament means your BR increases by 20%.
Fold or Call?
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Whatever happens, you're putting your tourney on the line on a coin flip twice- once wondering what he has, and again once you go heads up- because even if you are ahead pre flop, he could catch a set/straight/flush/2 pair depending on his cards and you're still out.
Not for me, if you can get your chips in first- sure, but I wouldn't be calling in this position without kings IMO, the position is important. On the BB facing a push from the button? I think I'm calling from there, the odds of him trying to buy your blinds are massively higher, and you could easily be facing a push from 7/3 or some garbage like that. If you do run into a big pair, then that's harsh luck- but if you double up, you're almost guaranteed to cash high.
Do you not realise? that poker is about gambling!!! and to get 2 Jacks at ANYTIME pre flop!!! have you thought about playing darts or snooker or some other non sporting activity, because you're missing the point. Kind regards
With no bankroll worries I may make the call. because to make the serious money you have to be aiming to final table not just beat the bubble.
But it all depends on the opponent, how solid is he ? What is his range in that spot ? Could he be just using the bubble pressure to shove with a mid pair or A 10/ A J ?
Of course you can make a case for calling here your just going the wrong way about it. And errrm... "Kind Regards"
I went all in, and then so did the guy after me who had almost identical chips as mine, he had A4 and he hit his A on the flop.
this left me with 0.34 of a chip with 5places to the bubble.
Say you fold and hope to cash before the blinds get to you, you're gonna lose 300 chips to ante's(assuming it's 10 seated) by the time the big blind hits. With you paying the BB, you've lost 20% of your stack(compared to your stack with the JJ)and are rapidly losing fold equity. To call a min raise is gonna cost you over 10% of your stack.A decent raise is gonna pot commit you and you might be forced to do it with a lot worse than J J.
To me, you're only delaying a tough decision and throwing away a premium hand with less than 10 BB in your stack.
WITH LESS THEN 10 BB LEFT IM CALLING ALL DAY LONG NOT GOING TO GET MUCH BETTER SITUATIONS TO DBL UP, AS FOR JUST TRYING TO BEAT THE BUBBLE IM AIMING FOR THE WIN NOT JUST TO CASH.
The decision is to do with cashing being a 20% BR increase. Can you afford to pass up that opportunity?
1)The blinds fold and he picks up the antes and blinds's
2)He's called and double's up
3)He's called and loses and bubble bursts.
So by folding he's only gonna ladder up 33% of the time.He's then still got less than 10bb's and looking for a hand to shove with and he'll probably end up doing it with worse than J J.Still gotta call. It would be a different matter if he had 15-20 bb's.
You are letting the fear of bubbling blind you to the correct play when being short stacked. What hand are you looking for to call in this spot? AA or KK? Would QQ be in the muck as well?Even with 15-20 bb's I'd be looking to take him on with JJ,
To call him is a tough decision, but it's one you have to make in this scenario.if you fold and he's not called or he double's up(especially with a hand you had beat) you are gonna have to make another tough decision by the time blinds get to you. You are losing fold equity with every hand. If you let the blinds go through you again, you are gonna get called light by a big stack when you do find a hand Even if you do double up, you've only gonna have just over 10 bb's again and will be facing another tough decision.
There's no shame in bubbling,every player does it(last night I bubbled after nearly three hours play) but the correct play in this scenario(IMO) is to call. It's a tough decision but they have to be made. I actually think by calling you are giving yourself the best chance of cashing.
Now be a good lad and tell us what happened.