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thats it im off away for a week

edited June 2010 in Poker Chat
Sorry guys, going to need to take a break for at least a week. Ive just watched my two pot sized bets with top pair get called by second pair all the way down, for the guy to hit 2 pair on the river. Ive lost every race ive been in i cant win a single hand. Getting so frustrated. So im off for a bit. May pop on the forums though but wont be seen on any of the tables. This kind of fortune gone on over a week now, cost me nearly £160 so im saying enough is enough.
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  • edited June 2010
    lol unlucky Don - breaks are for wimps ;)

    You aren't ashamed again are you?
  • edited June 2010
    im not ashamed mate, but im down to my last £1 in my account from £170 last week and i havent withdrawn a penny. Ive had 3 races today 

    Me AK opponent shoved me i called he had 55 i lose.

    Same opponent i had QQ I shove He calls with A7 flop has two 7s in it.

    Another game i shove with 8s get called by AJ flop AJJ

    Ive just had enough of it. i cant win a single 50 50 or even a single hand. i need to take time to recover, poker is my only sorce of income, so taking a hit like this is going to set me back weeks.



    Heres a prime example,
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    xSmall blind  20.00 20.00 5482.50
    The_Don90 Big blind  40.00 60.00 2099.00
      Your hole cards
    • 10
    • 10
         
    karlluke Fold     
    MereNovice Fold     
    sooty17 Fold     
    feltdeck Call  40.00 100.00 2300.00
    xRaise  140.00 240.00 5342.50
    The_Don90 Raise  240.00 480.00 1859.00
    feltdeck Fold     
    xCall  120.00 600.00 5222.50
    Flop
       
    • 4
    • J
    • 10
         
    xCheck     
    The_Don90 Bet  300.00 900.00 1559.00
    xAll-in  5222.50 6122.50 0.00
    The_Don90 All-in  1559.00 7681.50 0.00
    xUnmatched bet  3363.50 4318.00 3363.50
    xShow
    • Q
    • Q
       
    The_Don90 Show
    • 10
    • 10
       
    Turn
       
    • 3
         
    River
       
    • Q
         
    xWin Three Queens 4318.00  7681.50
    Every single hand ive played has been like that.
  • edited June 2010

    Yeh fair play but playing tournys - ur always gonna have runs like this.

    Maybe look at playing cash when u come back for more consistent results/income.
  • edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: thats it im off away for a week:
    im not ashamed mate, but im down to my last £1 in my account from £170 last week and i havent withdrawn a penny. Ive had 3 races today  Me AK opponent shoved me i called he had 55 i lose. Same opponent i had QQ I shove He calls with A7 flop has two 7s in it. Another game i shove with 8s get called by AJ flop AJJ Ive just had enough of it. i cant win a single 50 50 or even a single hand. i need to take time to recover, poker is my only sorce of income, so taking a hit like this is going to set me back weeks.
    Posted by The_Don90
    Hi Don

    It was only recently that I came off of a run of 6 consecutive weeks similar to yours, no cards no hits beaten on the river, went from £70 right down to £6 and all of a sudden it changed, you are probably better having a break, gl in whatever you do:)
  • edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: thats it im off away for a week:
    Yeh fair play but playing tournys - ur always gonna have runs like this. Maybe look at playing cash when u come back for more consistent results/income.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    I would play cash mate, but for the level i need to avoid the vast amount of idiots i cant afford to join, im unemployed and signing on, hense poker being my main income. I struggle to much in the lower stakes and just burn money away. Plus i dont understanfd this NL30 (is the £30 BB or 30pBB?)
  • edited June 2010
    Sorry guys i know i sound really bad i need to cool down. Im just so frustrated. (on a positive note, nothing to say its sky ive lost loads on another site aswell under almost the exact same circumstances)
  • edited June 2010

    NL30 - is both 30p bb and a £30 buy in lol.

    Play the fish - take their money and move up.

    Everyone has to do it, well not everyone, but most people start down at the lowest cash level.

    Its part of your poker journey, and you deffo wont look back or regret it.

    You say ur bankroll was £170? - that is easily enough to play 5p/10p (NL10) - where steady, maybe even boring, abc poker will make you easy money. (you cud play your mtts/dym's/bounty hunters on the side to break up the grind)

    Deposit 30 quid if u have it and give it a go today
  • edited June 2010
    Ive put my last £1 on England to win today, thats comming from a Scot that is as Scottish as you can get (no racism intended) so ive killed temptation to jump back on the tables.

    Other than that ill vist the forums but nothing else
  • edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: thats it im off away for a week:
    NL30 - is both 30p bb and a £30 buy in lol. Play the fish - take their money and move up. Everyone has to do it, well not everyone, but most people start down at the lowest cash level. Its part of your poker journey, and you deffo wont look back or regret it. You say ur bankroll was £170? - that is easily enough to play 5p/10p (NL10) - where steady, maybe even boring, abc poker will make you easy money. (you cud play your mtts/dym's/bounty hunters on the side to break up the grind) Deposit 30 quid if u have it and give it a go today
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    My weekly deposit limit a fiver ive already put £5 in today and got fished. Ive upped that to £25 but i still need to wat 24 hours for that.

    I had a shot of the 30p tables but i still found i got fished lol. Although not as bad as the 4p tables. what time do you usually play, ill maybe put in a little tomorrow and get on a table with you and learn the cash game off an experianced cash player, since i have a set out tournament style of play.

    Why do i get the feeling im like a second comming of Phil Hellmuth
  • edited June 2010

    haha Don u know that putting a quid on England, wins you 50 pence? lololol it never rains, but it pours eh m8
  • edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: thats it im off away for a week:
    haha Don u know that putting a quid on England, wins you 50 pence? lololol it never rains, but it pours eh m8
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Yea but thats 50p i used to have and dont now lol.
  • edited June 2010
    try a cheap game and well this happens, just shows my luck
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    The_Don90 Small blind  50.00 50.00 1730.00
    xBig blind  100.00 150.00 2840.00
      Your hole cards
    • 2
    • 2
         
    zFold     
    aFold     
    lFold     
    eFold     
    The_Don90 Call  50.00 200.00 1680.00
    xRaise  100.00 300.00 2740.00
    The_Don90 Call  100.00 400.00 1580.00
    Flop
       
    • 4
    • 5
    • 4
         
    The_Don90 Bet  100.00 500.00 1480.00
    xRaise  700.00 1200.00 2040.00
    The_Don90 All-in  1480.00 2680.00 0.00
    xCall  880.00 3560.00 1160.00
    The_Don90 Show
    • 2
    • 2
       
    xShow
    • J
    • K
       
    Turn
       
    • 10
         
    River
       
    • 6
         
    xWin Flush to the King 3560.00  4720.00
  • edited June 2010
    Poker runs can go down as well as up.. but I admit it can be a head-mash. My upward streak came to an end at Christmas 2009 and lost a load since & am now trying to build back up. One of the things I admire about Tom Dwan is his ability to lose and just move on. I keep that in mind & try to stay positive and ride these things out.
    Good luck.
  • edited June 2010
    Hey Don

    We all need a break now and then so take a week off and forget about poker. Come back refreshed and ready to kick some 4r5e

    As for DOHHHHHHH, i just love your enthusiasm, now thats poker...

    Paul
  • edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: thats it im off away for a week:
    Hey Don We all need a break now and then so take a week off and forget about poker. Come back refreshed and ready to kick some 4r5e As for DOHHHHHHH, i just love your enthusiasm, now thats poker... Paul
    Posted by -Typhoon-
    Thanks. My live game is still going well so ill maybe go up to the casino and play that instead for a week or two and come back confident again.

    As for DoHHHHHHHH can you help me out, learn the differances from cash and torunaments please. It was always tournaments that my old man played so thats what i learnt.
  • edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: thats it im off away for a week:
    Poker runs can go down as well as up.. but I admit it can be a head-mash. My upward streak came to an end at Christmas 2009 and lost a load since & am now trying to build back up. One of the things I admire about Tom Dwan is his ability to lose and just move on. I keep that in mind & try to stay positive and ride these things out. Good luck.
    Posted by NoseyBonk
    I agree with every word of this. I seem to have hit a brick wall at the minute & am losing to some of the most horrific beats I've ever had go against me but I know that at in an instant it can & will change for me. It's happened before & will happen again so I'm not too worried about it.

    At the end of the day mate as long as you're getting your money in good then things will change in the long run.
  • edited June 2010

    Hey Don, Ive tried this sort of thing in the past (helping micro stakes cash players), one time it worked, and the guy is now doing well, the other time, it went so bad, and not only did I fail to improve the guys poker, we also dont talk anymore.

    In the end, he ended up blaming me for his losses, as he couldn't grasp the theories and strategies I was trying to get across to him about micro stakes cash.

    I guess it depends on personalities, if we clash, it cud go wrong.

    I watch alot of poker, and if u want me to watch u play and give general observations then no problem.

    I said I wud do this with donkeyplop, but for one reason or another it hasn't happened yet.

    The problem is when I play myself, I can't explain alot of the things I do, I just do them coz it feels right.

    But obviously basics are basics, and if ur making big errors I cud point them out to you. When ur bak on ur feet I can watch ya, let me know.
  • edited June 2010
    In Response to thats it im off away for a week:
    Sorry guys, going to need to take a break for at least a week. Ive just watched my two pot sized bets with top pair get called by second pair all the way down, for the guy to hit 2 pair on the river. Ive lost every race ive been in i cant win a single hand. Getting so frustrated. So im off for a bit. May pop on the forums though but wont be seen on any of the tables. This kind of fortune gone on over a week now, cost me nearly £160 so im saying enough is enough.
    Posted by The_Don90
    I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL, YESTERDAY N T-O-T WAS 2ND LATE ON IN TOURNY AND WITHN 5 MINS WAS OUT GOING UP AGAINST SHORT STACKS 4 TIMES AND LOST EVERYONE ON FFF RIVER WHEN I WAS MILES IN FRONT ON FLOP AND TURN PLUS RIVER HITS FOR THEM, I FELT GUTTED
  • edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: thats it im off away for a week:
    Hey Don, Ive tried this sort of thing in the past (helping micro stakes cash players), one time it worked, and the guy is now doing well, the other time, it went so bad, and not only did I fail to improve the guys poker, we also dont talk anymore. In the end, he ended up blaming me for his losses, as he couldn't grasp the theories and strategies I was trying to get across to him about micro stakes cash. I guess it depends on personalities, if we clash, it cud go wrong. I watch alot of poker, and if u want me to watch u play and give general observations then no problem. I said I wud do this with donkeyplop, but for one reason or another it hasn't happened yet. The problem is when I play myself, I can't explain alot of the things I do, I just do them coz it feels right. But obviously basics are basics, and if ur making big errors I cud point them out to you. When ur bak on ur feet I can watch ya, let me know.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Thanks would be very much apprechiated, what level do you normally play out of curiosity?

    On a side not, i think i have a typical Negraneu problem, i can name my opponenets cards, knowing there beating me and because i want to know if im right so badly i call. I need to stop that to be fair.

    I understand the feeling right thing, i usually always do things on gut, which i usually do right. But when the guts not there i struggle to call.
  • edited June 2010

    Haha curiosity killed the cat - and the DOHH !!

    I know exactly that feeling, although I wouldnt say I was like Negranu, Im miles better than him ;)

    I play anything from 15/30p to 50/£1,  ----- start low during the day and move up after midnight.

    Giz a shout when u get some money on.
  • edited June 2010

    Poker Shocker - J-K beats 2-2!

    Don, it's a flip - barely that, in fact. Pre-Flop, you were 48% v 52%.

    Take a little break, man, sometimes poker messes with our heads.
  • edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: thats it im off away for a week:
    Haha curiosity killed the cat - and the DOHH !! I know exactly that feeling, although I wouldnt say I was like Negranu, Im miles better than him ;) I play anything from 15/30p to 50/£1,  ----- start low during the day and move up after midnight. Giz a shout when u get some money on.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    I wouldnt say im as good but its a similarity, was the only comparasion i could think of.

    Ill maybe get some money on tomorrow once im a little refreshed and have a pop on 10/20p if £20 sufficient for that, and hopwefully move up throughout the day as you say.

    In Response to Re: thats it im off away for a week:
    Poker Shocker - J-K beats 2-2! Don, it's a flip - barely that, in fact. Pre-Flop, you were 48% v 52%. Take a little break, man, sometimes poker messes with our heads.
    Posted by Tikay10
    It was more the way the hand played tikay, it was a bad example, i shoved on the flop he had nothing and hit a runner, i knew it was a race, wouldnt have minded a spike to a K of J, but to call an all in on a flop with K high was more what i was peeved at. lol.
  • edited June 2010
    Nothing wrong with taking a break m8. From what I have seen your tourny play is strong enough for you to do well over a period of time.
    But a run of bad beats does affect your game and playing without confidence is difficult.
    Personally I find that I play better after a few days off, and come back from working away with a clear mind.
    I would have no sympathy at all if you had backed USA !

    Tony

  • edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: thats it im off away for a week:
    Nothing wrong with taking a break m8. From what I have seen your tourny play is strong enough for you to do well over a period of time. But a run of bad beats does affect your game and playing without confidence is difficult. Personally I find that I play better after a few days off, and come back from working away with a clear mind. I would have no sympathy at all if you had backed USA ! Tony
    Posted by penguin7
    Haha i missed the game aswell falling asleep during the Argentina second half. saw the score tho.

    Thanks for the encouragement, i know i can play tournaments well, and at the stakes i do play theirs only a few players that really worry me (not played many of the main events so no came accross many of the bigger players often) but i know if i play my best on a good day i can cash in 3 of 4 tournaments, usually win one of the early doors one and won a couple of the latter night ones too. I think i sometimes ger a little over confident though aswell.

    For example before i went on this bad run id won 5 live games in a row and a good few tournaments on here. I went on a bad run in MTT for a couple of days but i then had a 100% record for 2 days in DYMS but then that ended to and since then in think ive cash one in 3 DYMS which is nowhere near good enough and only tournament i cashed in was a refund, but i was sitting with 6000 chips to the average 2500 at that point.


    On a side note done a scary with my last 30p and managed to win it. So went into a £1 got AA shove all in and some donk calls with J9 and flops trips.
  • edited June 2010
    I had a similar terrible run of luck in February, in just about every all-in situation where I was dominating my opponent he/she would hit their miracle cards, I just couldn't do anything right. Even if I was holding quads I would be resigned to the fact that somebody else would probably turn over a straight flush, thats how bad it was.

    But bad luck can never last forever, I started playing less frequently and at lower buy-ins until my cards started to hold up and my jinx gradually came to an end. Then my luck corrected itself by going the other way, in May I was running red-hot and full of confidence, it ended up being my most profitable month ever.

    Hang on in there Don, you'll be back to winning ways sooner or later.
  • edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: thats it im off away for a week:
    I had a similar terrible run of luck in February, in just about every all-in situation where I was dominating my opponent he/she would hit their miracle cards, I just couldn't do anything right. Even if I was holding quads I would be resigned to the fact that somebody else would probably turn over a straight flush, thats how bad it was. But bad luck can never last forever, I started playing less frequently and at lower buy-ins until my cards started to hold up and my jinx gradually came to an end. Then my luck corrected itself by going the other way, in May I was running red-hot and full of confidence, it ended up being my most profitable month ever. Hang on in there Don, you'll be back to winning ways sooner or later.
    Posted by GaryQQQ
    Yea funnily enough May was my most profitable ever month online aswell, give me a shout when your on a hot one, ill come back then :D. My problem is like i said poker is my only income, bar signing on, so i cant really afford these bad runs unless i make 2 or 3 months worth in the good runs, which i didnt in May, mainly because i only played the last weeks worth.

    To be completely fair my biggest problem is myself. When i have a bad day, i want to make it a good day, i challenge myself to win two tournaments for everyone i fail to cash in. Unfortunetly on  a bad day that means im buyin to loads of tournaments. They are usually bounty hunters and i can take 2 or 3 bountys before i go bad, usually down to my sneakyness to pick on the idiot that went all in and lost and kept 200 chips back.

    As i live off poker income, i usually do 8 - 12 hour sessions a day, which means inparticular this week im struggling to replace it. Its really all i know from when i get up till i go to be. I managed a 23 hour session once because a tournament just wouldnt end. I teand to find the more tired or the hungryer i am i do better i pick up on every little thing when im tired. Most of my useful notes on players have came from when ive been playing shattered. However i also make silly mistakes during these times aswell. My reads at this time are usually 80% correct, but as i said to DOHHHHH im that focused on knowing im right with a player i dont have a note on i call when i know im beat.

    I know i can play strong tournament poker, but im still learning, ive only played around 600 online games and maybe another 200 live so im only now starting to understand betting patterns, position plays etc. However that is mostly down to the fact ive taught myself most of what i know, i learnt a little from watching my old man, but i didnt understand it. I must also note, i have a 90% record against him in games, hes only taken me out once when we both only had 1 and a half big blinds left or the last 3 players in a home fast structured game, i shoved on SB with KQ him being commited called we both had 12000 blinds 4000/8000 at this point only 72000 chips in play and the other guy who had folded had the rest of it. He shows 23 which he was blind and spiked a 3 and i missed. Fair enough, we had our giggles but i know i can outplay him 90% of the time.

    Apart from that, im still learning the game. But i know know where my flaws are, if anything this bad run has helped me spot them so i thank it for that, i got over confident and believed i was playing near perfect poker, when to be fair i wasnt. I was making the odd bad call and getting "lucky" but i usually always knew where i stood. However now that i know where my weakness is i have full confidence of going away, playing a few live games during this week, maybe go up to Edinburgh to the Casinos and work on this and come back onto the site refreshed.

    After that im going to start to learn to play in small limit cash games and work my way up through them. That way ill earn a little extra if i play my best, and that would allow me to play in the tournaments and recover from bad runs such as these easy enough.
  • edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: thats it im off away for a week:
    Haha curiosity killed the cat - and the DOHH !! I know exactly that feeling, although I wouldnt say I was like Negranu, Im miles better than him ;) I play anything from 15/30p to 50/£1,  ----- start low during the day and move up after midnight. Giz a shout when u get some money on.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Thats me boosted my limit, not that thats sorted. Playing on the NL10 tables. Ill let you know how i get on.



    Edit: that went well now
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    kcxyz Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £24.43
    tyranus Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £2.40
      Your hole cards
    • 8
    • 8
         
    xCall  £0.10 £0.25 £25.77
    hairyhaggi Fold     
    The_Don90 Raise  £0.40 £0.65 £8.09
    THEHAWK Fold     
    kcxyz Fold     
    tyranus Fold     
    xCall  £0.30 £0.95 £25.47
    Flop
       
    • 4
    • 5
    • 8
         
    xCheck     
    The_Don90 Bet  £0.48 £1.43 £7.61
    xRaise  £2.39 £3.82 £23.08
    The_Don90 All-in  £7.61 £11.43 £0.00
    xCall  £5.70 £17.13 £17.38
    xShow
    • 7
    • 6
       
    The_Don90 Show
    • 8
    • 8
       
    Turn
       
    • A
         
    River
       
    • 7
         
    xWin Straight to the 8 £15.85  £33.23
  • edited June 2010
    Helol Godfather Don,

    Sorry to hear about your downswing :(

    It's NEVER fun and can make you seriously doubt yourself as well as your game.. Take a break from playing online and have a breather. But stay and play with us on the forum! I've got used to seeing your soppy face (Avatar) everywhere :)

    Good luck.. It'll soon swing around again and in the mean time it looks like the Community are giving you some EXCELLENT advice.

    Posting a message to the Poker Gods for you.. (with my mind obviously..I don't have an address or anything).

    xLM
  • edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: thats it im off away for a week:
    Helol Godfather Don, Sorry to hear about your downswing :( It's NEVER fun and can make you seriously doubt yourself as well as your game.. Take a break from playing online and have a breather. But stay and play with us on the forum! I've got used to seeing your soppy face (Avatar) everywhere :) Good luck.. It'll soon swing around again and in the mean time it looks like the Community are giving you some EXCELLENT advice. Posting a message to the Poker Gods for you.. (with my mind obviously..I don't have an address or anything). xLM
    Posted by LML
    Thanks Lisa,

    Yea thats my old dogs, she was my pride and joy, but she thought a bus was food and i couldnt catch her in time. Miss her to bits now, but ive got my memories :).

    Thanks, i hope that message gets to them soon, playing a bounty hunter just now, but struggling, but thats usually when i play my best. i just need to make sure i get paid for a monstar within the next 30 - 40 hands and im kool
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