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Aight, its an appeal, to all forumers, to plzzzz start using the poker clinic.
It really is good for helping yours/mine and other peoples game. The benefits of using it, wether to post hands, or give your views on other peoples hands, goes without saying.
When I've been posting a hand recenty, I cud put it up and within a day, I could have 10 replies. Before I post the hand, I could write a list of 10 names, and more often than not, these people will be the ones to reply.
This facility will work MILES better if more people contribute, their opinions, hands, and even question the opinions of others.
There are very few low stakes players who use it, off the tiop of my head, probably only myself, OmahonyO, blackfish and dudeskin use it reguarly who play low stakes.
Is here any reason for this?
Would you guys contribute more if there was a designated low stakes are in the clinic?
Do you feel people wont give you respect and feel intimidated?
I could reel off 30 names of poker players who use the forum at least every other day - WHO i HAVE never seen post in the clinic. - It wud be great to see you using the poker clinic, as it helps me personally as well as you.
(had this idea when I saw loonytunes post this afternoon)
Also Iknow the presenters are reallllllyyyyyy busy organising stuff - but if they popped in and even replied to 1/2 of the hands when theyre around, this wud boost interest bigtime.
SO CMONNNNN GUYSSSSSS HAVE A PEEK IN!!
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Im now playing low stakes aswell, and think this would benifit although i never see any of the players i see on the tables on the forums except for Oynutter and lucky7777 although im not quite worked up the levels yet. (On NL8 now btw )
I have noticed some people having digs in the poker clinc. E.g. a hand i put up mostly for new players, and a little for myself about folding pocket 7's which sky says are in the 10 best starting hands, and someone said, "standard fold waste of my time" but i just ignore it.
I also agree if the likes of the anylisers (i cant spell i know) popped in every now and then and gave their views on a couple of hands, not all just a few, this would boost interest.
Good to see some support for this area of the forums though DOHHHH.
I read whatevers in the clinic every day without fail with the occasionally post. I have learnt no end there and know what you mean about the same old faces posting day in day out.
I propbably don't post as much as I should, not cause of intimidation, but more of not having anything to add that someone with 10x more experience has already said.
I will try and add my view before reading what everyone else has already written.
maybe some time this week???
I OPENED A THREAD DOHHHHHHH,
SO HOPE THIS HELPS OUT M8Y !
I visit the Poker Clinic on a regular basis as reading the posts does help my own game. Unfortunately however, I do not consistantly play text book poker, so I tend not to give my opinion on many of the posts.
I hear people say pocket 7's or Pocket 5's is an insta fold to a 3 or 4 x BB raise and I feel like pulling my hair out, cause its not always an insta fold in my opinion, it really all depends on the read you have on players on your table, stack sizes, gut instinct and so forth.
Although I do feel I could bring another view to the argument, I think I would be pretty quickly dressed down by the more experienced players that visit the clinic.
I really do like the clinic and enjoy all the posts but yes I feel it's very intimidating place to give your opinion, which is why I only read them, however, if other players could respect the opinions (Right or Wrong) of the less experienced players then I would give it a go.
Pokertrev.
nice post dohhhhhhh
here are my thoughts...
The poker clinic is there to HELP people not to criticise peoples play in a negative manner.
It would be refreshing to get a variety of opinion from all players, regardless of ability or perceived experience or ability. There are alot of lower stake players that could hold their own at the higher stakes quite comfortably, and the amount of money people choose to play for does not affect their ability.
Nobody should be afraid to post for fear of being mocked for their views.
I like the fact that some of the higher stakes players comment on my strategy posts, but i am just as interested in the opinions of regular players, who just play for fun. Why?, because we all see situations differently, and it would be very boring if we all agreed.
hoggers
lol, im glad this has gotten replies from alot of the forum regs.
A few people have stated they feel intimidated, or out of their depth in the clinic.
Before I adresss this, let me tell you all I feel exactly the same alot of the time. But these big players, Cliokid, zing, beaneh, Lol_raise, lynx 0- give great advice, and to say Im opposing them would be both stupid and untrue - They have helped me loads.
All Im sayin is that if more of us, the lower stakes guys get busy in there - it wont be anywhere near as 'intimidating' for us. To see the farmiliar names there will make it an easier place for us to contribute.
If you dont wanna, thats fine, this thread was just about trying to guage why people dont, and hopefully find a solution.
I could post a hand from a £2 dym - and a £5/£10 cash payer could come and give me advice - Although I wud appreciate this, Id much prefer advice from a £5 dym payer, who's been there and dunnit? - ya know?
Thers loads of low stakes players who can think and talk and most importantly play good poker on sky, I'd hate to think you/us guys are being held back and missing out on a great learning opportunity coz we're intimidated?....
And if they say owt nasty, just tell em to b0 llax I wud!! lol
Theyre nice guys reallly.
Lets help ourselves by helping eachother guys, is a poker forum after all
We are talking STDs here aren't we ???
No!!!!!!! ...................oh..................OK then.
I read the Sky Poker forum clinic most days, but for me to give poker advice would be a bit like like a plumber giving medical advice. But I like the clinic a lot, so please keep posting there everybody.
"I read the Sky Poker forum clinic most days, but for me to give poker advice would be a bit like like a plumber giving medical advice."
You wud be V V V surprised Gary - how many ways is there to play a poker hand?
If I had access to peoples hand histories. I wud spends hours reading them - even better if I can read explanations and ask questions.
U guys under-estimate yourselves.
The really interesting hands are few and far between, but do usually attract a good response.
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Way hayyyyy
Bradfords answer to Kerry Katona???
Thats a personaised DOHH/JJ compliment but only if u say yessssssssssssssss
Some white powder stashed in the lorn mower where the grass is sposed to go
One thing I did think of, and have thought this from day 1.
Most of the other big poker forums out there do not have a poker site running along side like sky. Therefore, forum users usernames are probably going to be different to their poker aliases on whatever site they play.
Here at sky it is the same name. This can cause a couple of problems,
1 - Ppl may not want to post hands, as it could be seen as giving free reads and notes to opponents. It wouldnt surprise me if ppl actually made notes on ppl after reading some of their posts in clinic. I, for one have thought twice about posting certain hands, but posted them anyway lol.
2 - PPl may not be bothered about giving away reads, but may just be concerned about opening themselves up personally to critisism or micky taking or whatever. This doesnt usually happen here, but of course it is possible.
For a while now, I have wondered if maybe its a good idea, for people who wish to post strat threads in the clinic, may do so anonymously. I have seen posts in different parts of the forum by `anonymous` but have no idea how they do it.
Just an idea
Hi JJ,
Excellent thread!
I confess, I never visit "The Poker Clinic", I just don't have the time, as too much of my time is absorbed by dealing with the negative moany-woany stuff, so I'm cutting down on the negative time I spend on the Forum quite significantly, so I can concentrate on smiley-wiley stuff.
But I like to help where I can, & in this case, I'll try & large up "The Poker Clinic" via Blogs, Tweets, & on the various Shows.
I'm doing a lot of Shows this month, & I'll give it a plug on all of them, assuming my memory does not fail me.
For what it's worth, your contributions to The Poker Clinic, & the Community generally, should never be under-estimated. In "The Club" which we recorded yesterday, & which first airs next Monday, we covered an interesting contribution you made. (The 7-8 of clubs hand).
I dont like posting any of my hands, or giving my poor opinion or advice (hindrance)
I'm only starting out with cash....I've posted some hands today to see if I'm on the right track..a little too tight..too loose...missing something obvious?
Cummon guys....get over here!!!!!
It's not all bad beats and I could do with all the help I can get!
Seriously, absolutely what he just said. The Clinic is actually ticking along at the moment but personally I'd like to see more of the beginners coming on there as well. If you're even unsure of how you want to play mid-pairs or something, that area is perfect for people who have a hand that they want picking apart and perhaps a helping hand in what they find a tricky situation.
Remember; what we might consider standard is difficult/tricky for others. I'm all up for helping as many along as possible and appreciate the help of the Community 'regs' here.