Whats Your Next Move?

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In Response to Re: Whats Your Next Move?:

you are wrong.  you do not calculate odds that way
Posted by scotty77

Your probably right scotty lol, but calculas wasn't my strong point at school and I was just trying to explain my thinking in a simple mannor.

I'm not helping much am I? Perhaps I should just admit defeat and go back to the tables.

Anyway, I do value the points you have made on this post Scotty and every little bit helps to improve my game.

Many Thanks m8y. 

N1CK

In Response to Re: Whats Your Next Move?:

As I have now seen the flop, I think this is the best time to shove all in. On this point I think we can all agree. I have played the hand to the flop and improved my hand so at this stage I think it is safe to say I have to shove regardless of what villain does next. So that being said, can someone break down my options with KK on a 10 handed deepy? 1. Do I shove all in pre without putting my oppo on a hand? 2. Was I correct to raise my oppo's re-raise or should I have just shoved against his re-raise? 3. If I put oppo on AA after he re-raised my re-raise, am I still shoving all-in pre flop? or do I flat call giving me a chance to get out of the hand if I don't improve? 4. Or are we saying KK in a 10 handed deepy is an insta shove all in pre flop every time? My thought procces was:   I 4/bet pre-to ask the question, villain re-raises, so at this point i could put him on JJ, QQ, AA. I re-pop him to ask the question and try to narrow his hand down a little and he answers by coming over the top again. (Does he have AA?) I think if I shove here it is suicide, however, I have invested a good proportion of my stack into the pot so I now decide to flat call to re-asses my hand. My hand improves so I pretty much think it's now going to go all-in. But if I hadn't improved on the flop I think I would have folded to his all in as I would have had no option but to put him on AA. (Over 50% of my stack gone but with 8.5K left at this early stage I would have still been in good shape for the rest of the tourny) My thought process may be wrong on this occasion and most likely is, which is why I ask you for your advice.
Posted by POKERTREV

i really hate this ASKING THE QUESTION line of thinking, what question were you asking? have you got Aces? would you 5 bet me with AK AQ JJ QQ? well i asked but i dont believe you so will you 7 bet me with ak aq  jj qq?,

so you asked he told you and you didnt believe so pretty pointless really,
at least you didnt turn your kk into a bluff and fold it pre,
BET FOR VALUE BET FOR VALUE BET FOR VALUE BET FOR VALUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i hope this makes sense........ no point calling the last bet pf the best move was allin you have 60% EQUITY in this hand against his range get it in and be done with it

GaryQQQ

IMO you absolutely had to get it all-in after that flop. You played the hand perfectly well.

You were rightly worried about AA pre-flop. But that flop was almost perfect for you, only KKx would have been better, given the pre-flop action there's virtually no way he'd be holding 2 clubs, Ac A is your biggest worry.

You were unlucky on this occasion, it's just one of those things. This was a massive +ev situation, if you put him on 2 random aces your equity was 76% (65% if he held Ac, 87% if he didn't). Three times out of four you'd have won this pot, then be left sitting with a monster stack and well set up for a deep run.

 

barnsie

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