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Yeah Baby Yeah!
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| A | Small blind | £0.04 | £0.04 | £5.28 | |
| B | Big blind | £0.08 | £0.12 | £3.27 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| C | Raise | £0.16 | £0.28 | £2.94 | |
| BananaDog | Raise | £0.40 | £0.68 | £10.71 | |
| D | Call | £0.40 | £1.08 | £28.45 | |
| E | Call | £0.40 | £1.48 | £1.03 | |
| A | Fold | ||||
| B | Call | £0.32 | £1.80 | £2.95 | |
| C | Call | £0.24 | £2.04 | £2.70 | |
| Flop | |||||
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| B | Check | ||||
| C | Bet | £0.40 | £2.44 | £2.30 | |
| BananaDog | Raise | £3.24 | £5.68 | £7.47 | |
| D | All-in | £28.45 | £34.13 | £0.00 | |
| E | All-in | £1.03 | £35.16 | £0.00 | |
| B | Fold | ||||
| C | Fold | ||||
| BananaDog | All-in | £7.47 | £42.63 | £0.00 | |
| D | Unmatched bet | £17.74 | £24.89 | £17.74 | |
| BananaDog | Show |
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| D | Show |
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| E | Show |
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| Turn | |||||
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| River | |||||
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| BananaDog | Win | Royal Flush | £23.49 | £23.49 | |
Comments
Nice one.
ps, Harvey..I didnt actually ask for your opinion in the first place!
As for post flop, the flop is smack in the middle of the ranges for those who have called a 3bet from behind the AJ: AK/AQ/AJ/KQ/KJ/TT/99 and so on. If you've flopped the nuts, have a redraw to the nuts AND think you'll get all the money in on the flop from hands such as those listed, why are you going to smooth and let cards which shut down business on the turn (such as top pair and a draw folding when fourth street is a heart...) arrive?
Incorrect on every street? I don't think so. I think the way Bananadog played the hand is one of a couple of ways of playing it, no better or worse necessarily than your line, Harvey. What would your line be here, just out of interest? If you're going to label the play bad it would be in keeping with why we have The Poker Clinic to suggest how to improve, right?
flop raise is also bad, you have just bet £3.24 into a £2.44 pot, alarm bells at this point are already going off about what you are holding. its just a cooler that both players in the hand hit the flop in a big way and regardless of how badly you played it, you was going to get paid off.
why overbet the flop when you flop the nuts, and have a re-draw to the bigger nuts? if villians want to bluff on this flop you have pretty much stopped them with your over bet on the flop. raise it to like £2~ instead of way over pot, so when they do have bluffs, they have the OPTION of shoving with ther air hands, when you overbet, pretty obvious you are never folding at this point.
In Response to Re: Yeah Baby Yeah!: Can you give us your reads on A, B, C, D & E?
You've obviously played them many times to be able to give such strong an opinion.
The OP got the maximum from multiple players - let's just assume that she had a better read than you did.
to maximise expectation for weaker hands and bluffs, OP should not overbet that flop.
If I have AA and someone has KK flop comes AK2r, I open shove my stack, and villain calls, its such a awful play to open shove the nuts, villian is folding 95% of there range unless they have AK/KK/22, which just happens they did, does this make me a good player because i got there stack? no.
on the comment on my first post, yeah i should of explained a bit more in depth, but this is the poker clinch were people post hands they need help on, if you want to brag go post it in the other sections. I mean I won $200 in like 1hr last night, dont see me posting every hand i played and graphs here do you.
Are you particularly experienced at the level that the OP was playing against?
It's often good play to bet your hand against players who will pay to draw to a hand that you already have or to a worse draw. Poor players tend not to bet their strong hands for fear of scaring away weaker hands. By overbetting her hand the OP disguises her hand beautifully by making it look like she didn't want a caller.
Against multiple players she maximised her chance of getting a call before they had missed their draws and decided that the odds were against them on the flop. The flop hit a huge number of hands and it was a good move to maximise the money in the pot.
op bet roughly around 1.5 the size of the pot, so for this to work as a bluff they need to fold 60%~ of the time or more, and this is agaisnt 2 players so this play will not be profitable ever.
Also the whole idea of betting huge, to make our hand look like a bluff, does not work at 4/8p where the level of thinking is quite basic. to me merenovice it sees I have upset you for some reason, and know you just are some exerme wild plays to counteract everything I am saying.
Also remember that I am a new cash player and am still learning and also remeber i dont really care what you think Harvey cos you are just happy when your moaning! I was gonna say thanks for explaining but I think youd also find something to argue with about that so I wont bother!!!!!
ps, there is no need to be so sarcey on your first post..it doesnt make you look clever!
Now calm the hell down cos no-one can be bothered arguing with you anymore!!!!
You seem unable to accept that your AB thinking isn't the best play in every situation and that your mechanistic moves are non-optimal when you know nothing about the table dynamics.
Best of luck with your play - but don't overtly criticise people who have played a hand far more successfully than you appear to be capable of.
You may have a basic understanding of the game - but it is certainly basic.
To quote Skakespeare:
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy"
I mean I would hardly call my poker thought process basic, I have proven to everyone here with my stats and info, that I have beaten limits up to 50nl with ease. Which is alot more then alot of people on here can say.
I mean how dare me actually be happy that I had my first Royal flush and got paid! I'm soooo sorry!
Poker is generally a game of opinions. Your opinion may have some merit in some cases but stating that other peoples opinions are worthless is remarkably stupid.
Congrats Banana, nice one! 8- />
The only thing I would say in Nasser's defence (sorry Harvie, with that profile pic, I can only picture you as the ex-England cricket captain) is that this thread has been posted in the wrong section, but I guess Banana was a little excited and it was an easy mistake to make which elicited Harvie's dig in his first comment.
But he has apologised for it now and since then both he and Mere have had a constructive and healthy debate and amen to that.
Remind me to never sit down on your tables lol
hey bananadog nice hand!!!
im still waiting for my first royal flush.......................................................
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