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The "THAT Show" Blog Feedback Thread.
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The Blog is HERE
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Just testing......
Hopefully, both work now.
It was due to one of these things.....
1) I posted both Links before either the Blog or the Thread had been published, as they needed to go live at the same time.
2) It was the funny-bone logic - to divert attention from the subject.
3) I messed up.
USP = "Unique Selling Point"
Further, I think I will get used to the return to 2D graphics with extra things promised for the future shows.
Finally, I am really looking forward to seeing these new USPs when they come out.
Good work Sky and thanks for the update Tikay.
JC
I know its been mentioned before, but it would be great if you could have like a live sit n go that ppl qualified for online. Hole cams and everything. Thats a couple of shows worth...
Sky Poker, Sky team, brill, fantastic, we love you all... Just a coton pickin minute, 2D, does that mean when we got LM presenting, we are going to have to start looking at the cards now?, sigh, just sigh
Seriously, thanks for the blog tikay, onward and upward, gooooooooooooooo Sky Poker.
On second thought if Lisa-Marie... no, never mind.
But seriously, my main issue with 2D over 3D is that the hand analysis seems terribly clinical and loses all entertainment factor. There really is a huge perceived difference to me between seeing someone analyzing the hands and hearing someone talk about a hand. I have tried to watch many instructional poker videos and it's hard enough to keep focussed for 30 minutes, let alone hours.
I'm sure the presenters and analysts will bring their own unique style to this "cut to table" analysis. I guess time will tell if it goes down well with the viewers.
As i have said on other threads, I thought the Dealers Choice was a good programme and i think it does warrant a place in the schedule.
If your base is moving north, will the current rota of presenters and analysts(how are great btw), still going to be on our screens, or have i jumped the gun again?
col
"Dealers Choice" - well we will let everyone know if & when it re-appears. They plan to use August to test a few things, maybe make a few Pilot Shows, &, one hopes, Dealers Choice may then get onto the TV Schedule.
Tikay, Claire,Mandy & the suits,
As business executives learn, sooner or later, people don't like radical change, so last Sunday at 8.00pm when we all got ready to put our feet into our "comfortable warm and nice old pair of slippers " AKA SKY865 Primo Live; the shock of not been greeted by our old friends in their familiar 3D surroundings, not seeing live hands, and being fed unrecognisable features and chat, was too much to take in one go; resulting in the torrent of comments.
The beauty of this community is the fact that we can give both bad & good comments, because we've become friends with Sky Poker and each other over the past few years; it's only in this sort of environment you would feel happy & relaxed enough to be truthful in what you post.
It's good to know you (and hopefully the suits) have recognised the issues and the mostly constructive comments you've had will be played into what 'you' do next. You do so many things right, and I'm sure you will in the future, and if not there will be three or four hundred people happy to tell you what they think.
Tony, Max Clifford will be proud of your opening comments, let's hope the suits don't let you down.
Cheers
Dave
before I condemn/approve it.
well written tikay.
Everything must evolve - including 865 - so GL with the changes. (OK - that's not quite true. It's clear from our photo's that neither TK nor myself have changed much in the last 230,000,000 years - but everything else must evolve!)
On a serious note - I had a real problem with the 2D display on Sunday and would like to offer some solutions.
The problem is that both the names nd the bet amounts are displayed smaller than they used to be in the "3D" display and I simply could not read them so could not follow the programme.
It's not that I need new glasses; it's because I have to sit farther back from the TV if I'm also playing ... in order to make room for a couple of poker screens. I tried watching it on-line but again the text is much less readable than the old 3D format because the player frame is not adjustable.
Solutions:
1. The easiest solution is simply to zoom in further so that the action fills the whole screen rather than be surrounded by a large dead area of blue. No tech time required.
2. Better would be to transmit with a larger font for names and bets. There is plenty of room because we don't really need these ***** avatars - which is why you ditched them last year in the 3D display. This should take only a few tech hours - mainly for testing before release.
3. For watching on-line, please use a user-adjustable frame your player. (Indeed, this would also be great for your tables though I guess that would need to wait for the download version!!!) This option woul probably require a few days of tech time.
4. Obviously, in the long term it would be great to return to the 3D display because this really added interest to the programming, as it would to any new programmes which might emerge.
Please do something as on Sunday I actually stopped playing in order to watch the show - not an optimal solution!!!!
The 2d/3d doesn't bother me when it comes to graphics, but I think a lot will be lost with the presenter/analyst 'in hand' reactions to how the hand was player/miracle rivers etc.
I think that we need more TV time to in-play tournies. The Primo is the best show of the week IMO. I am mainly a cash player and like Master Cash a lot, but you do see the same players week in week out just hogging the TV time meaning that the 'casual' player who is channel hopping at 9.15 has little chance to be featured. In a 500 runner MTT Mr Joe Bloggs has just as much chance of being on the air as anyone else.
TK you go on about the USP. One of the major reasons why the site has grown was that it had a very simple and easy to remember selling point. 9pm....big guaranteee tournie...with live in play TV coverage. While I understand that it is not financially viable to do this 7/days a week but I think that Friday night should definatly be added to the live TV format.
If you are advertising the Primo, show just the Primo. Don't dip out of it for an hour to show a 500 BH.
Less of the brainless ad breaks. Who cares about a load of poker journos talking about Chris Ferguson when its been repeated 50 times/week for 2 years. And update the infomercials which go on about tournies that you no longer offer. Having TK, who loves a super deep stack slow structure and advertises them on the forum/facebook/the tv channel on a daily basis, 'advertise' a RUSSIAN ROULETTE is frankly embassing. Put that VT in the recylce bin now
More James Hartigan in analyst duties.
As the action is now 2d some Omaha action.
EDIT YES THAT IS AWFUL SPELLING but i aint going thru it again soyou'll just have to deal with it merenovice
Thanks for the update Tikay..
I think mine will mirror a lot of other peoples posts on here. The main thing that attracted me to Sky was the main tourney being shown on the TV each night, the chance to have your hand shown and the interaction between anaylst/presenter/guests.
I look fowrard to the changes and will continue to be a Sky regular :-)
I agree with most of the posts on here, the only reason I joined Sky Poker over any other site was because of the live tournaments shown on TV, and in particualr the 3D studio set up. This is one of the big reasons for watching and joining Sky Poker in the first place. I also enjoy the presenting of Rich Orford and Tikey together (great chemistry) and also LML with anyone. I think Sky are lucky to have her, she is a great presenter and is not just a pretty face, she knows her stuff too, as well as being ammusing with her on screen banter.
In my opinion to lose lots of live tournaments in favour of re runs and repeats, and to lose the unique 3D imaging and how that works with the presenters will be a huge step back for Sky. I understand that the cost might be high for the 3D studio, but how many people will not sign up or even leave Sky Poker because it will just become one of many similar Poker formats.
Keep things the way they are, 3D screen, on screen presenter chemistry and the live tournaments are what sets Sky Poker apart from the rest.
Well written and explained Tikay. Thank you. i do have my own view and hopefully i can put this foreward almost as well as yourself (or not).
The'Dealers choice' show was ok as a magazine type show,but in my opinion should never replace one of the few live tournament shows; we see too little of those anyway! If Sky were to add this to another night, even as a replacement for the Club, i believe it would be a very good and welcome addition.
Personaly, i much prefer the 3D version to the 2D - this may be because it is all i have seen, Imo the fact that we can see not only the cards but the presenters/analysts reactions make for a vastly more enjoyable show, than just having a voice over to a screen that doesn't show anywhere enough detail. As others have said it was the 3Dversion that originaly drew me to the show and is what seperates a 'good' show into a 'brilliant' show.
There can be no argument that the presenters and analysts are anything other than brilliant (even that Orford chap)!! It would be nice if we could see them more often in a live environment and maybe that will happen in the future; i hope so anyway.
I quite agree that the breaks are getting a 'touch' tedious....well OK seriously tedious!! A change would do wonders for the sanity of the viewers!
Many thanks
Laurie (lozgo)