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You've not had a downswing in 5yrs and ur still playin on SKY, lol
p.s good fold I reckon, looks like a big overpair with a dia, but what wud I know, as u already told me I'm a complete donk with no clue, and in 5 yrs I've made a number of downswings,
jesus doh, your such a nit!
you have to continue on that flop surely!
Just a few tentative thoughts for you mate, as you know I'm no cash player.
I think it's good advice you've been given about looking at why you raised pre. As it is you can answer that question, I think, simply by saying you've got a decent hand 6 handed, you're in good position really (you did buy the button) and you're isolating the limper. No problems there I don't think. The villain has become involved, c'est la vie.
To the flop then. You've been advised by a very good cash player to call and re-evaluate on the turn. This is because you're in position and like I say the advice has come from a very good player. However, your hand, really, is horrible isn't it? (apart from the gut shot straight flush draw of course). I fully agree with what you said about there being no turn cards you like and as such, facing a pot bet with little info, I instantly fold here. However I am a nit and apart from folding, I think your only other option is to re-raise/fold here. If he doesn't fold to your reraise then I would shut down. Of course if he flats and checks the turn, perhaps you need to fire (?) but this is where I am getting out of my depth I am afraid, sorry.
Just as a final point, something I have done in the past is give people too much credit when moving up levels and I don't think for a minute that you won't be beating this level comfortably pretty soon. I'm not saying your doing this here or playing more timid than your natural style but it is worth asking yourself the question. What would you have done against a relative unknown at nl30 in exatly the same spot? My gut is that you would have raised the villain who dared donk bet into you and my gut is also that if that's correct, perhaps that's what you should continue to do at nl50, at least against unknowns until you get reads. Play your natural game mate!
JC
I think it's good advice you've been given about looking at why you raised pre. As it is you can answer that question, I think, simply by saying you've got a decent hand 6 handed, you're in good position really (you did buy the button) and you're isolating the limper. No problems there I don't think. The villain has become involved, c'est la vie.
I never have done nor will ever give advise, I'm not good enough (nor is 99% of players on SKY) but the raise pre in this hand makes the pot big , with QQ and 2 callers here I'm worried, never mind 66, If ur willin to bwt 5 x bb pre then u must accept that if u get called the flop will be dangerous and u must be willing to play this, if not a 2.5 to 3 x bb raise wud get the same info without inflating the betting per flop to allow a more valued decision.
I would put him on an overpair here and fold, or shove and hope he has Ace 5 or just ace high. But if he has two diamonds a four or an overpair ur going to be putting ur stack in!
I wouldnt of raised so much pre but if i had i would of folded after that bet, unless i was playing you then i would shove lol
We raise preflop to:
disguise the strength of our hand
get value from our best starting hands
allow us to get people to fold better hands on boards that hit our perceived range
allow us to get a free card (especially when in position as people will often check to the preflop raiser)
build the pot for when we do hit
play for bigger pots against weaker opponents
take the blinds down uncontested
be able to put opponents on a narrower range of hands
and I'm sure you can think of other reasons too. And I would be making it 4x minimum here, I think 5x is fine though with a limper already and you not being in great position. ACA making it 2.5x is pointless because we are still going to go to a flop multiway, and we're not raising preflop 'to find out if our sixes are good'. Also you should be keeping your raise sizes constant so your raise size here should be the same as if you had aces.
on the actual hand i would be calling and re-assess, although dont think folding is bad as JJ has stated that most turn/rivers are probably bad but personally could have overs like KQ and be making the move so i would call on basis i am ahead at the mo then see what comes on the turn and how he playes it
loving the fred pic!!!
(its finally been approved)
Finally!!!!!! I was waiting so long, love that pic lol
What cards can we put him on pre-flop?
What cards were you hoping to see on the flop?
What cards is m8y boy putting us on here?
If m8y boy put you on AK or Pocket Pair etc pre-flop, he knows you are not going to like this flop and ultimately represents the flopped flush to try and take it down here and now.
If we are not going to call here with this type of flop, why would we raise pr-flop in the first place?
I'm calling here to see what m8y boy does next. If I don't improve my hand and get an aggro bet on the turn i'm folding.
I could go all in on the flop but chances are they wont fold with two other cards and a high diamond